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Hi T8,
God chose to anoint Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan.
Your protestations that it was not necessary as he already had the Holy Spirit are in vain.
And you show that you are more reliant on your own ideas and logic than the evidence given by God.
Hi T8,
John is greater than Jesus because John (already) had the Spirit?
You lack of prophetic vision cripples your insight.
Your protestations that it was not necessary as he already had the Holy Spirit r in vain.
Always resorting to falsities Nick. What is the name of this spirit that guides you? Or perhaps you should just give up teaching and let judgement be a lot less harsh?
You say that Jesus partook of John’s baptism to become the Christ. Where is such a thing written? This comes from your own spirit at best.
Hi T8,
Christ means the ANOINTED one.
The appointed Son of David was anointed at the Jordan.
basic stuff.
Hi T8,
Until you are anointed from above you will believe all others are deceived.
But your own foundation is still your ideas.
Dig deeper.
“He must increase, but I must decrease.” (John 3:30)
Hi Nick,
Please tell us why John the baptist spoke theses words…
what do they mean?
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God bless
Ed JNick, you are clearly wrong about Jesus not being the Christ in the City of David because the scripture clearly says he was. You have some secret spirit that makes it mean he was not the Christ meaning this Spirit draws an opposite conclusion to the text.
Now here is another error you clearly make. You say that something is not true if it is not explicitly mentioned. So we know that John had the Spirit as did his mother, but you say Jesus did not because it actually doesn’t explicitly state as much. We do know that both Jesus and John’s parents or one parent were visited by Gabriel and the unborn John acknowledged Mary and the unborn messiah in her womb because John had the Holy Spirit. But let’s test your logic that something can’t be true if it is not mentioned explicitly.
As far as I know, nowhere does it say that Jesus had a nose, thus your logic would state if you were faithful to this thought process of yours, that Jesus didn’t have a nose because it is not written, whereas I would argue that he likely had a nose because it states not that he didn’t have one and from historical accounts that would lead you to believe he probably had a nose. In other words, if it never stated that Jesus had a nose, then the best you can say is that you cannot be 100% sure that he had a nose, but likely had a nose. That is one example. It doesn’t mention the colour of Jesus hair as far as I know, so he lacked hair colour is your logic. Whereas I would say he had a colour, but cannot tell you which one.
Now back to the Spirit and Jesus. We know that his Father was God and the Holy Spirit visited Mary to produce the child in her and yet here is you saying that Jesus definitely did not have the Spirit like John or even the Old Testament prophets and kings like David, Saul, and even Elizabeth. And what is your reason for saying this? Because you hold to the doctrine of the Ordinary Jesus Brigade first and use the lack of an explicit description of this as 100% proof to back up your predefined doctrine. This is the mistake the Trinitarians made.
But is this lack of description a problem for me then who holds to a Jesus who was born the Christ as is written? No it is not because if Jesus had the Spirit it would be of no surprise, I mean even King Saul had the Spirit but he lost it of course. But let’s assume he had not the Spirit but was called the Christ anyway, would that be a problem for me. No, because he emptied himself is what I believe. In other words, he emptied himself of what he had and was entitled to, came in the flesh, was born already the Christ as it is written and declared by an Holy Angel, he fulfilled his mission, and is now back in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos. Either way, my belief is not hindered whatsoever but yours is when we look at certain scriptures.
So what exactly happened then when Jesus was baptised if he was already the Christ? I will mention that in my next post if I have the time and to keep this from being a too lengthy read. But suffice to say for now, you have to hold to the idea that Jesus was not the Christ in the City of David, whereas whether Jesus had the Spirit or not, I believe he certainly was the Christ and have already proved this using scripture and not had to rely on human understanding at all, but read the text as it is.
Hi t8,
Thanks for responding.
YOU: In fact I believe the hypocracy comes from those who pretend to believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh when in actual fact, they believe he was not the Christ when he came in the flesh. I think people end up believing such things contrary to what is written because their hearts are not right by reason of their prideful knowledge and own understanding.
The Christ –Christos –anointed, was to be of the seed of Abraham, Jesus is Christ as the FLESH of Abraham. Do you believe that t8?
You are speaking falsely about the verse below as you do not identify Jesus the Christ as the seed of Abraham who was anointed. HE, as in the seed of Abraham is come in the flesh.
The passage DOES NOT SAY a pre-existing son with NO NAME emptied himself and came to us in the flesh. The child of Abraham and David’s seed born given the name Jesus was anointed. Jesus the anointed has COME to us in the flesh.
Guess what t8, John wrote AFTER Jesus had been raised from the dead, and how did he come as a witness to many to prove God’s Word of the gospel? He had come to them IN THE FLESH, with a flesh and bones body, where he had died but HIS FLESH did not see corruption. He is to sit on the throne as King of kings and Lord of lords of the offspring of David. We are also told that the SAME Jesus that ascended to heaven is the SAME Jesus that is to descend, as it is the Son of Man that is returning among the clouds in the glory of OUR Father.
1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
The very verse above was written because of false doctrine that you teach t8, you make who is said TO BE of the seed of Abraham and David that was anointed, into some other “being”.
You say Jesus Christ was NOT FLESH, he came to earth and changed into flesh, you make him into an image just like a pagan god, which is no surprise because mainstream Christianity’s doctrine is based on pagan ideas, instead of OT prophecy.
Jesus the Christ CAME from OT prophecy he was a promised Messiah of the seed of Abraham and David, he had been foreordained before God created heaven and earth, as God had established the New Beginning before He created the world, and in that new beginning Christ is firstborn overall creation. All things God made, including man in His own image, He made for this new beginning, a new heaven and earth where righteousness and eternal life dwells, where man exists in the image of God, all things were made through and for the perfected man, Jesus the Christ.
You ignore all that t8, instead you say Jesus Christ came from already existing, and you apply scripture that is specifically speaking of the Son of Man Jesus the Christ and say it is speaking of a “being” NOT in the flesh.
For instance you do this in Philippians 2, and Colossians 1. You speak of Jesus Christ as NOT a person in the flesh. Such is antichrist, exactly what 1 John 4 is speaking of. You change the glory of God and His anointed one, the Son of Man, the son of David, who God promised David He would beget on a certain day and who He would make him into His firstborn. Instead of apply OT prophecy, God’s WORD, you instead IGNORE prophecy changing God’s WORD with a doctrine that is against the Word of God.
I apply prophecy, and when a person applies prophecy Jesus the Christ ALWAYS remains a Son of Man, you however don’t, and by such you make the written word into a lie.
God had promised He would send a human savior, one who He would anoint, Abraham and David’s seed who He would make him into His firstborn Son, but you say God brought a Son who existed already that was not flesh but changed into flesh. An anointed man was sent out into the world in the full measure and power of God’s Spirit, the passage says that God sent Jesus Christ His only begotten Son.
T8, You CHANGE that son from flesh, the Son of Man born given the name Jesus, to be speaking of a pre-existing being not of flesh.
PLEASE t8 comprehend this, you are doing EXACTLY what is antichrist. You are against the Son of Man who had been promised by God to be sent upon becoming the ONLY human anointed with God’s Spirit in full measure and power, such that he was in the form of God. He was BORN of the Spirit and was sent out, and was persecuted. Jesus the Christ is the ONLY begotten Son, who was perfected and then sacrificed. YOU CHANGE the passage too, to NOT be speaking of the Son of Man in the flesh and say it is speaking of someone who isn’t even flesh.
To ALL,
John 3:14 Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him.” 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
Acts 13: 22 After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.’ 23 “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised.
Acts 13: 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
When you change John 3 from speaking of Jesus Christ the NAME GIVEN to the Son of Man in the flesh of the seed of David and say it is speaking of a Son of God NOT of FLESH being sent to earth, you are speaking ANTICHRIST.
The Son of God in John 3 is speaking of the SON of DAVID who God had said He would be a Father to, it is NOT speaking of a Son of God WHO WAS NOT FLESH and saying that Son was sent to become flesh and die for us. The Son of Man was anointed and then sent out to be our savior, where he first had to be perfected through being obedient taking up the cross.
WHO IS the Son of God in scripture? It is David’s son, that is who, the Son of Man born given the name Jesus, it is NEVER a son WHO IS NOT FLESH, to say it is, is ANTICHRIST.
To ALL,
If you change the below passage at any time not to be speaking OF Jesus Christ IN THE FLESH, a human of the seed of David, you are speaking antichrist.
Ask yourself how is it that Jesus the Christ is in the form of God? Has he not been anointed with the full measure and power of God’s Spirit? Such is the reason why the person given the NAME Jesus who was anointed is said to be in the form of God. The passage is not saying he previously existed and was in the form of God, it is saying Jesus on earth was in the form of God. Not because he pre-existed but because he was THE CHRIST anointed with the powers of God.
HE as in the Christ on earth, thought in not robbery to be equal to God. But in all that power he did not serve himself he only served God becoming obedient to death. NO part of the passage below is talking about a “being” who was not flesh.
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
To ALL,
Same applies to the passage below, if you change the person being spoken of as NOT apply to the Son of Man in the flesh who was anointed with God’s Spirit you are speaking antichrist.
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Romans 1:3..Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness by the resurrection from the dead.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Colossians 13:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
In Corinthians, “For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.”
In Corinthians, “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
The firstborn spoken here is the firstborn of the dead, the Christ who is the image of God, Christ who is of the flesh of David.
Colossians 1:16 For by HIM were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created through HIM, and for HIM: 17 And HE is before all things, and by HIM all things consist.
Who is HE and HIM? If you say it is not speaking of Christ the son of Abraham in the flesh, you are speaking antichrist.
Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Acts 13: 22 After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.’ 23 “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised.
Changing Colossians 1 to be speaking NOT of Jesus, the Son of Man, the Son of Abraham, the Son of David who God had promised He would make into the anointed, into His Son, into His firstborn over all creation into a new heaven and earth, but to be speaking of a “being” not in the flesh, is antichrist.
Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; 3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;
Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. 9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. 10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. 11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. 12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
All things were not created through and for a pre-existing son, they were created through and for the seed of David. In the seed of David that God made into a savior bringing eternal life, do all things consist. This Jesus, the Christ of the seed of Abraham, HE is before all things in HIM, the author of eternal salvation, all things consist.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he BECAME the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
All things consist because Jesus was perfected bringing us LIFE, without him all things would consist of nothing but death.
To say that in a pre-existing son all things consist is antichrist. The Christ of the seed of Abraham made perfect do all things consist, HE is before all things, He is head overall, able to judge righteously because he had been subjected to temptation just like us.
In the beginning before God made the world He made it through and for Christ of the seed of Abraham. He made it through and for the Son of Man who He perfected, as God had promised, eternal life before He created the world.
If God promised eternal life before He created the world, and we have eternal life through the Son of Man being made perfect, then God created all things through and for Jesus the Christ the Son of Man of Abraham’s seed.
Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another..
A son of God did not create heaven and earth, God our heavenly Father did. He created it through and for the servant that would be anointed called into righteousness who would be for God a covenant of the people, that covenant is eternal life through Jesus Christ. God would not give His glory to another, He would give it to the seed of Abraham and David.
That glory existed with God before He made the world, it was IN HIS WORD, His word is TRUE, and that WORD was made flesh.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
David’s son is the Son of God, he is the Son that was perfected and brought eternal life. These passages are speaking of that Son, they are speaking of God’s WORD being fulfilled, these words were with God in the beginning, these words were of eternal life, God is eternal life.
The people beheld the glory, were witness to the glory of Abraham’s seed who was made the Christ.
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Jesus of the seed of Abraham and David WAS BORN after the Spirit, he is the Son of Man made into the Son of God, God has put all things into his hands.
John 1 is not talking about a pre-existing son, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, is SPEAKING of the one anointed, BORN of the Spirit, and called to righteousness written in Isaiah 42 of whom God specifically said He would give His glory to and no other.
WHO is YOUR CHRIST?
Is he of the seed of Abraham? Is he the Son of man that was BORN of God’s Spirit, becoming the only mortal to have been born of God’s Spirit with power without measure? Is he the one spoken of in Isaiah 42, where God would not give His glory to any other?
Is your Christ the Son of God because he had been BORN of God’s Spirit?
or do you consider him the Son of God because before his birth he already existed as the Son of God?
This passage below tells you WHEN Jesus was MADE the Christ, BORN of the Spirit without measure, made the “only begotten Son” of God. God’s WORD, that existed even before it was revealed to Isaiah was made flesh.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
When Jesus was baptized and the Spirit descended upon him, it descending upon him without measure, he was BORN of God, that is WHEN Jesus was made the Christ, made the only begotten Son FULL of GRACE and TRUTH, that is WHEN he WAS SENT and that is when the people BEHELD his glory. The glory that they beheld was him performing signs and miracles, he was in the form of God having God’s powers as he had been BORN of God’s Spirit at the river, being made into the “only begotten Son”.
God’s WORD,
Isaiah 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles…6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;..8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another,
God’s WORD made flesh,
Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him…Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness…14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about…18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Hi t8,
The passage does not say that what was conceived in Mary is of the Holy Spirit, it says that Mary conceived through the power of God’s Spirit.
Matthew 1:20 As he was thinking about this, an angel from the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, don’t be afraid to take Mary as your wife, because the child she carries was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
by transliterated word ek out of, from, by, away from
COMPARE the birth verses the baptism,
Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
To
Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him…Luke 4:1 And Jesus BEING FULL of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness…14 And Jesus returned IN THE POWER of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about…18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he HATH SENT ME to heal the brokenhearted to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath SENT speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
Why did Jesus QUOTE ISAIAH speaking about his anointing Chrio, becoming the Christos anointed with NO mention of his special birth as the anointed already that you speak of?
You need to open your eyes t8, Jesus says himself WHEN he was anointed and it is according to Isaiah’s prophecy NOT his birth.
I don’t think you have realized what you have said regarding the below passages.
Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
What thus separates Jesus from John is that Jesus was the child to fulfill Isaiah’s prophecy, John even had to say that he was not the Christ, not the anointed one. John knew that Jesus was the man to fulfill God’s word spoken by the prophets, he would be a savior, he would baptize people with the Holy Spirit, he did not know that he needed to baptize Jesus to fulfill all righteousness, Jesus had to tell him to do so. THEN we see Isaiah and the account of the anointing being fulfilled.
WHY did the angel say this day a savior is born? Very simple, because he was the child to fulfill Isaiah’s prophecies.
OPEN your eyes t8, Simeon is speaking through knowledge of prophecy.
30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, 31 Which thou hast PREPARED before the face of all people; 32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. 33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him. 34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
SOUND familiar t8??? READ below,
ISAIAH 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. 8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another,
Simeon is speaking FROM ISAIAH, JESUS quotes ISAIAH concerning HIS ANOINTING.
Here is another passage that tells you WHEN Jesus was anointed,
Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, AFTER the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed (chrio) Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Jodi….God bless you, but no matter how clear you explain it, they simply are not able to understand it, they have a spirit of delusion in them , so they are simply unable to get it. But none the less we you, Nick, and I Have born wittiness of the truth to them. GOOD JOB BOTH YOU AND NICK.
Peace and love to you and yours…….gene
Hi Ed,
The Law and the prophets were proclaimed until John;
since then the gospel of the kingdom is preached
and everyone is forcing his way into it
Lk 16.16
The ministry of John was until Jesus preached the kingdom of God.
The work of the messenger was done and his role vanished.
Truly I say to you, among those born of fwomen, there has not arisen anyone greater than
John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Matt 11.11
Jesus is greater than John because God gave him the fullness of the Spirit.
Those in him share the blessing.
Hi,
Jesus was not a Son sent from among the HEAVENLY SONS OF GOD.
His God within him performed all the miracles, signs and wonders the scriptures speak of.
Acts 2.22
“He must increase, but I must decrease.” (John 3:30)
Hi Nick,
Please tell us why John the baptist spoke theses words…
what do they mean?
Hi Ed,
Tell us your thoughts.
Hi Nick,
I asked you first
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God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
The Law and the prophets were proclaimed until John;
since then the gospel of the kingdom is preached
and everyone is forcing his way into it
Lk 16.16
The ministry of John was until Jesus preached the kingdom of God.
The work of the messenger was done and his role vanished.
Truly I say to you, among those born of fwomen, there has not arisen anyone greater than
John the Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Matt 11.11
Jesus is greater than John because God gave him the fullness of the Spirit.
Those in him share the blessing.
Thank you Nick!
Hi Ed,
John said of the man, Jesus Christ, that he had a higher rank because he existed before him.
John was conceived and born before Jesus. So something spiritual is going on here.
John is referring to the Word just as the other John did in his first letter.
The Word, since being made flesh at the Jordan, is now forever one with Jesus.
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