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    Lightenup–Your own words said it teaches The god of this system of things at 2 Cor 4:4 is Jesus, when in reality it is satan. He is ruling this system, it is sick, corrupt, and twisted.

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    Berean, Actually a horn in the bible( Daniel) is a kingdom( country)-Daniel helps explain revelation-thus 2 horns are 2 kingdoms working together as the final world power. This has been occurring since ww1.

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 2 weeks ago

    The book is teaching a lie, how scholarly is that?

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    A book of lies you posted-Every scholar on Earth knows 100% it is satan at 2 Cor 4:4-thus-god, not God.

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 weeks, 5 days ago

    Desiretruth–Both Mary and Joseph came through Davids line.

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    Lightenup–The article = THE–its the first word of the paragraph at 2 Cor 4:4–it is NOT calling satan-The God as it does to the true God at John 1:1 and 2nd Cor 4:4.

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 weeks, 6 days ago

    Desire truth– God, your God is saying Jesus has a God–it is not calling Jesus God. 100% fact-God does not have a God. Its saying God anointed Jesus with the oil of exultation, more than his partners( angels)

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 weeks, 6 days ago

    Lightenup– satan does not have the article, it happens The is the first word of the paragraph.

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 4 weeks ago

    The writings about Jerome says he didnt like the sepyuagint and switched to a corrupted latin version to translate the OT. That is where i am that i am came from. From Hebrew it translates-i will be what i will be. But to mislead because Jesus said i am( he lived before Abraham) Catholicism used i am that i am to mislead.

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 4 weeks ago

    Lightenup–The Father created his only begotten son-The Hebrew word-possessed at Prov 8:22 means created in Hebrew. = The firstborn of all creation-false religions twist these facts because it exposes them as false. Only a HE created, not a we.( Gen 1:27-Prov 8:27-28)-Gods master worker(Jesus) is the builder not the creator.

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 month ago

    Desire truth. Psalm 45:7 did not call Jesus Elohim, It stated that he has an Elohim( God)

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 1 month ago

    Jesus isn’t any kind of God. Small g god carries the meaning-has godlike qualities, it is not calling that one God as 2 Cor 4:4 plainly shows when satan is called god.

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    Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 1 month ago

    There are 2 spots in NT where more than 1 is called God or god-John 1:1-2Cor 4:4– At both spots the true God is called Ho Theos=The God–Both the Word and satan are called Theos=god in this scenario. Trinity error has God to the Word and god to satan, it cannot be translated both ways. It is 100% undeniable fact god is correct for both the Word…[Read more]

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    Lightenup– At John 1:1 the true God is called Ho Theos=The God–The Word is called Theos=god in that scenario as it occurs at 2 Cor 4:4 as well- So The true God=Jehovah gave Jesus(Word) authority. If Jesus were God he would already have had the authority.

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    Lightenup–I said psalm 102 was Jehovah. No Jehovah is not the son. Jehovah is the sons God( John 20:17)

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    Lighten up–Jehovah is mentioned in Psalm. When one applys bible facts, it can be said for both.

    Most think the us at Gen 1:26 created, but verse 27 is clear only a he created, prov 8:27-28 backs it up-a he created, not the us. The us= Jehovah( architect, creator) and his master worker( Jesus( builder, not creator)Prov 8:30= The one who was…[Read more]

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    Lighten up, I don’t need to relook. I showed you facts, you show the opposite of facts. Its why trinity based religions are such a mass of confusion, your translation is erred and altered by Catholicism translating. Like at John 1:1-There are only 2 spots in NT where more than 1 is called God and god-John 1:1-2Cor 4:4–The Word was NOT given the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup– Psalm 110:-Jehovah said to my Lord(Jesus) sit at my( not ours) right hand. Thus you are twisting heb 1–  Heb 1:4–Jesus inherited that name( Jesus, given to him by God) it made him better than the angels. If he didnt come to Earth, then it means he was equal to the angels( created)–Psalm 45:7-companions=angels.

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    Lightenup– Yes JW,s are Christian. Psalm 110:1 assures Jesus is not Jehovah–  Jehovah( LORD) said to my Lord( Jesus), sit at my right hand until i make your enemies as a stool for your feet.

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    Hi Lightenup. I live in NY state, The JW,s knocked on my parents door in 1961. I was 4 then. Where are you from? I like the 3 g,s–God, golf, guitar.

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