The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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     Jodi 
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    Here is some SIMPLE TRUTH,

    29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    The IMAGE of the Son of God is according to him being the first human raised from the dead. 

    The Son of God is a perfect man, and we too shall be made perfect.

    Ephesians 4:12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

    Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the promise, 40 God having provided something better for us, that they should not be MADE PERFECT apart from us.

     

    #844680
     Jodi 
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    TRUTH from Paul,

    Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs–heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

    We are all of ONE BODY, that BODY is CHRIST a Christos an ANOINTING of God’s Spirit. By ONE Spirit we are of one body, all being made to drink of that ONE Spirit. Jesus is a Son of God ACCORDING to the Spirit, him receiving of that Spirit brought him into perfection and eternal life. We also receive of that Spirit and also are made perfect and receive eternal life. 

    1 Corinthians 12:11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills. 12 For as the body is one and has many members, but all the members of that one body, being many, are one body, so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body–whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free–and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For in fact the body is not one member but many. 15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body,” is it therefore not of the body? 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? 18 But now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as He pleased. 19 And if they were all one member, where would the body be? 20 But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. 21 And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” 22 No, much rather, those members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary. 23 And those members of the body which we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow greater honor; and our unpresentable parts have greater modesty, 24 but our presentable parts have no need. But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that part which lacks it, 25 that there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care for one another. 26 And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; or if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually.

    We are joint heirs with Christ, the ANOINTED, as we too are ANOINTED of the SAME ONE Spirit as he was, making Jesus and his brethren all of ONE BODY. 

    We are all of ONE BODY, that BODY is CHRIST a Christos an ANOINTING of God’s Spirit. By ONE Spirit we are of one body, all being made to drink of that ONE Spirit. Jesus is a Son of God ACCORDING to the Spirit (Romans 1), he is a Son of God as a perfect man given eternal life. We also receive of that Spirit and also are made perfect and receive eternal life. 

    We are to be Sons of God as Jesus is a Son of God, which is all according to God’s Spirit working in the spirit of men. God’s children are all of ONE BODY, being ALL heirs of God, receiving of God’s Spirit to a measure that makes us perfect humans not able to sin, and thus death is destroyed.

     

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     carmel 
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    the first human raised from the dead. 

    Jodi,

    Are you in the position to explain in detail the above truth?

    What actually happened to Jesus in order to be raised again back to life

    BORN ANEW IN THE TRUTH, AS A HUMAN BEING IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN?

    IN THE AUTHENTIC SATANIC FLESH AND BLOOD SUBSTANCE, ADAM AFTER SIN,  BUT MORE IN A PERFECT BODY THAN THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE?

    A BODY WHICH HE NEVER WAS BORN IN SINCE HE WAS BORN BOTH SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN. WHILE HE RESURRECTED, I REPEAT,

    IN THE AUTHENTIC EX SATANIC HUMAN BODY! PURIFIED BY HIS OWN DIVINE BLOOD GIVEN AS A RANSOM ON THE CROSS  IN EXCHANGE

    FOR THE HUMAN SATANIC BODY, ADAM’S ON HIS SIN. The fact that in the last supper He said

    this is my flesh, ex Eve’s, on her sin, this is my blood, ex Adam’s on his sin?

    Peace and Love in Jesus Christ.

     

    #844682
     carmel 
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    YOU: 27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

    What was that SEAL God the Father set on the Son of Man???

    Jodi READ John 6:27Labour not for the FOOD which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you. For him hath God, the Father, SEALED.

    NO Jodi it says SEALED. not as you twisted scripture:

    because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”

    GOD THE FATHER NEVER PUT HIS SEAL ON JESUS THE SON OF MAN IN THE WAY YOU MEANT.

    Sealed is a reference that

    JESUS AS A SPIRIT IS SEALED in the entire process of the world, the fact that all is sustained by him, from the very beginning.

    UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME JESUS SPOKE THOSE WORDS,

    Jesus, “THE WORD” WAS SEALED IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD, Slain like a lamb from the beginning of the world. AS THE ETERNAL LIFE.

    THE FACT THAT JESUS SAID:

    Do not labor for the FOOD which perishes, but for the FOOD which endures to EVERLASTING LIFE,

    which the Son of Man will give you. 

    Jodi the entire process of the world was satanic through the sin of Adam and Eve, but God in “THE WORD” Jesus TO BE, the Son of Man TO BE, in His Mercy right from within Eve’s HEART, slain like a lamb….Rev.13:8 sent His Son by whom he created the world,

    Hebrews 1:2  In these days, hath spoken to us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the world.

    Given as a sacrifice and a ransom in exchange for the human satanic race, CURSED by which sacrifice, He eradictaed Satan from the entire process of the world, hence the world was saved, and He “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man established Himself sovereign over the entire process of the world , by which act HE WAS SEALED IN THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE WORLD AS THE ETRNAL LIFE. Now in view of this read

    Matthew 21:18 And in the morning, returning into the city, he was hungry. 

    Jodi Jesus was HUNGRY alright, and HOW? But not to eat figs since it was not its season, BUT FOR SOULS, JESUS’FOOD, eternally condemned as Satan was the propriator of earth as  A SPIRIT.

    19And seeing a certain fig tree by the way side, he came to it and found nothing on it but leaves only. And he saith to it:

    May no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever.

    Now Jodi Who do you think Jesus spoke to?

    TO THE ACTUAL TREE, OR TO SATAN IN THAT TREE AS A SPIRIT, CONVINCED THAT THE TREE IS SUSTAINED BY HIM? and what happened when Jesus said thos words? READ:

    And immediately the fig tree withered away. 

    WHY? Simple!  Jesus, as a SPIRIT,  slain like a lamb FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD .Rev.13:8  CAME OUT OF SATAN’S HEART, AND SATAN BECAME AWARE THAT

    JESUS IS THE “THE WORD” THE SON OF GOD, HIS CREATOR. and ONLY JESUS, THE SON OF MAN,  “THE WORD” OF GOD IS

    THE LIFE and the tree DIED.

    This is also depicted in Jesus own words in the desert to Satan when He said

    Matthew 4:4 But he answering said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone,

    but by every word which goes out through God’s mouth.

     

    In the above, Jesus was more than clear and said to Satan that as much as humans does not live by bread ALONE, but from every word which goes out through God’s mouth, which means that while humans EAT BREAD IT’S NOT JUST BREAD ALONE BUT ALSO “THE WORD” Jesus, the Son of Man IN THAT BREAD THE ONLY LLIFE SOUCE, SEALED IN CREATION TO SUSTAIN IT,

    HE SATAN DOES NOT LIVE  BY HIS WON POWER, OUTONOMOUS,  BUT BY

    “THE WORD” precisely Jesus, the Son of Man, AS A SPIRIT, ORIGINALLY in his heart from the very beginning, as Lucifer.

     

    Yes Jodi I am more than CONVINCED, that Jesus, pre-existed as a spirit, and HE IS IN YOUR HEART and in all human hearts, PURCHASED on the cross, by His own BLOOD, HE GAVE HIS DIVINE HUMAN HEART FURNISHED BY THE FATHER,SIMPLY TO GIVE IT BACK TO THE FATHER AS A RANSOM.

    IN EXCHANGE FOR THE HUMAN HEART! 

    THE HEART BY WHICH HE RESURRECTED! THE HEART HE PURCHASED. NO?

    THE ONLY RANSOM PURE AND PERFECT AND NOTHING OF EARTH DESPITE A SON OF DAVID! ALL POSSIBLE FOR GOD. NO?

    Simply “THE WORD” MADE FLESH

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

     

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Carmel, Anthony , and  Truthcomber ……. Do me and yourselves one favor,  go back and not just read Jodi’s last 4 posts, but take your time and study them out, think about them, they are taken from the scripture directly, and clearly show the truth about who Jesus is and was, in the plan and purpose of our GOD.  you have ” never ” been given so much truth at one time in your life. 

    I know it makes you nervous and is unsettling to you, espically if you have been feed garbage religion most all your life, but take some time and pray to GOD, to help you understand ,  She has  has taken a lot of time explaining and presented solid and sound scriptures, without adding false religious concepts to them. 

    May God help all that read them to understand.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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     Ed J 
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    you have ” never ” been given so much truth at one time in your life.

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    #844686
     Ed J 
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    Gene,

    The bible says: “Come let us reason together”

    So why don’t you?

    #844687
     Truthcomber 
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    Ah one more set of posts:

    Hi Jodi,

     

    You:
    Isa 42:8 I am YHWH that is my NAME: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. 9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

    This was God’s WORD to be fulfilled in the future being made flesh in one who is of the people.
    Mostly true: God’s Word is God’s spirit. This is one aspect of God. The other is his mind. His spirit does not change and bonded as  one with flesh.

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

    John 10:30 I and my Father are one

    Duet 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our God is one YHWH:

    Me: At this point God is one: mind and spirit (Word). The world was made by the spirit in him. Since the human mind of the Messiah is bonding with the spirit mind of God through the Word, the whole of Christ is considered the Word of God. But Christ is not fully the Word of God until his glorification (Rev 19:13). Neither is he fully the Son of God until that point (Heb 1:5).

    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

    Me: The Word or spirit of God was bonded to the man Christ before John baptized him. John bore witness of this. In fact, the Messiah was bonded with the spirit of God at birth.

    Luke 1:35 (NIV) The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
    https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/1-35.htm

    Me: After the glorification of the Messiah in Heb 1:5, God consists of one spirit (the Word) and two minds—that of our heavenly Father and his son’s human mind. Our heavenly Father is greater than his Son. That doesn’t mean his son is not God. They are of the same kingdom or family after the glorification of the Messiah.

     

     

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     Truthcomber 
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    Hi Jodi,

    You:

    Isa 42:8 I am YHWH: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

    Me: So what does this mean?

    Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

    Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Me: The Messiah was crucified in the mind of God before it actually happened.

    John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

    Me: The Messiah hath ascended into heaven and is in heaven before he actually did.

    John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

    Me: The Messiah was glorified before he actually was.

    This was in the mind of God from eternity.

    Me: In fact all of we humans were in the kingdom of God from eternity—in the mind of God.

    He will not give his glory to another except all humans by which  he had known from eternity as if they were from all eternity.

    Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. 18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

    Me: The church is the first fruits. The rest of mankind is the great harvest of the second fruits. This is where I agree with you.

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     Truthcomber 
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    Hi Jodi,

     

    Me:
    John 17:21 That they all may be (future) one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

    Me: We become one with the Messiah and thus one with the Father. Thus we are the sons of God.

    1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

    The divine Council:
    Psalm 82:1 (A Psalm of Asaph.) God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    Naked Bible Podcast 109 — John 10, Gods Or Men?

    Me: Divine beings in Psalm 82:1 are the sons of God or angels.  They are divine (not yet perfect like God is). Some have gone wicket.

    So the angels of the divine council  in Psalms 82 are compared to Christ who was not born completely of God until his glorification.  Both are divine.

    Me:
    John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

    Me: We are one with the Messiah and thus one with the Father. Thus we are the sons of God.
    1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
    The divine Council:
    Psalm 82:1 (A Psalm of Asaph.) God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods… 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

    Me: Jesus proved his divinity by the works he had done.

    Example:

    Matt 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. 27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. 28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. 29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. 31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? 32 nd when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. 33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

    Naked Bible Podcast 109 — John 10, Gods Or Men?

    Me: Divine beings in Psalm 82:1 are the sons of God or angels. Jesus is compared to them at this point.

    Heb 2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. 9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. 10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

    Me: I believe that this passage has a duel meaning.  The original in Psalm 8:4 is:

    New American Standard Bible
    Psalm 8:5 Yet You have made him a little lower than God, And You crown him with glory and majesty!

    https://biblehub.com/lexicon/psalms/8-5.htm

    Yet it could pertain to angels if Elohim is plural in number.  So “a little lower than angels” has to pertain to the Messiah only.  The other meaning “a little lower than God pertains to the Messiah and all of mankind.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Hi All,

    Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
    We become sons of God like Christ is the Son of God, not like the angels are.

    Matt 23:8 “But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers.

    Me: We are all equal in the sense that we will be in each other spiritually and considered as one unit.

    John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    1 Cor 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

    Me: Then there will be the mind of God together with the human minds of Christ and all mankind joined together with the one holy spirit.

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Truthcomber. ….Heb 2:7, and Palsm 8:5, is speaking of mankind,  did you miss the part that says “what is man”, I notice you ceaverly leave that part out, so you can force the text to fit your false teaching.

    As far as God’s go,

    Isa 45:23-24, Isa 44:6…..Thus saith the Lord the king of Isreal, and his redeemer the LORD of host;  I am the first and the last; and besides me there is “no God.”

    Not to even mention that the first commandment also tells , thou shall have “no other God”, besides me”.

    It never fails to amaze me how far you people will go to twist plainly written scriptures, to force you own false teaching and false concepts on people.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

     

     

    #844698
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Truthcomber. …..do you know what the word God means?  Please explaine what that word means to you. Seening you post that there are so many God’s. 

    I will give you what I think it means after you post yours.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

     

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     Truthcomber 
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    Gene:

    You: Truthcomber. ….Heb 2:7, and Palsm 8:5, is speaking of mankind, did you miss the part that says “what is man”, I notice you ceaverly leave that part out, so you can force the text to fit your false teaching.

    Gene: I showed you all the scriptures; You are not just blind but arrogant and stupid.

    You: As far as God’s go,
    Isa 45:23-24, Isa 44:6…..Thus saith the Lord the king of Isreal, and his redeemer the LORD of host; I am the first and the last; and besides me there is “no God.”
    Not to even mention that the first commandment also tells , thou shall have “no other God”, besides me”.

    Gene,
    Absolutely Not.  It pertains to the whole family of God, which is God.  I have shown you the other scriptures which solidifies this.   But you do not perceive spiritual things. Maybe if you reduce your beer bellow you could see over it.

    You: It never fails to amaze me how far you people will go to twist plainly written scriptures, to force you own false teaching and false concepts on people.

    No Gene,

    You did not even quote the scriptures I have painstaking shown you and tell me how you disagree with it.  What is twisted is not my exegesis but your brain. Yet on the other hand, I could care less what you think and your BS which you say is truth.

    I had wished someone else with at least a half a brain and inkling of truth  would have responded.

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     Truthcomber 
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    Truthcomber. …..do you know what the word God means? Please explaine what that word means to you. Seening you post that there are so many God’s.
    I will give you what I think it means after you post yours.
    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    Gene, I have shown you what Word means. Try reading my last few posts at least a hundred times. It is there. Gene, I do not care what you or the devil think it means. Please spare me the grief.   Go tell your twin.

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     Truthcomber 
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    Hi All,

    The kingdom of God is a family that is united as one by the holy spirit.  It is God.  The kingdom of God is a NT phenomena.  It starts with Christ and ends with the last man standing.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=kingdom+of+God&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1

    We become the children of God–a family.  The Word (spirit of God) became one with flesh and was the first member born.  The family extends as we put on Christ.

     

     

     

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    Hi All,

     

    1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus (Salvation) Christ is come in_flesh is of God: 3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in _flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    https://biblehub.com/interlinear/colossians/2-9.htm
    Col 2:9 (Bible Hub) For in him dwell all the fullness of the Deity bodily.

    Me: Everyone that claims that the Messiah was a mere man, that he received the spirit of God not at birth but at Jordan, that was resurrection and gloried as a flesh and bone man, that was made a little lower than the angels inferring that the angels are higher than him, and that thinks he was a mere man is not of the spirit of God but of the anti-Christ and are men crept in unawares that pollute the gospel of Christ.

    Gene, I will not bid you Godspeed.

    #844703
     Truthcomber 
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    Hi All,

     

    NKJV

    Beware of Antichrist Deceivers
    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward. 9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

    #844706
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Truthcomber. …..I went back and rechecked what you wrote, you  certanily did leave out Heb 2:6…but one in a certain place testified, saying  “what is man”, that thou art mindful of him?, or the son of man, that you visit him? You cleverly left that part out so you could manipulate the rest of the verses.  Heb 2:6-8 is all speaking  of mankind in a general sense.  Anyone here should be able to understand that.

    You believe we are all GOD’S but God does not share you views,  read the FIRST COMMANDMENT , we are told to have no other God besides him, nor make any image of him in heaven above or earth beneath,  but you preach we are all God’s, not understanding the statement “you are God’s”  was given in a possessive sense,  another words  GOD sent his words to his people, they were God’s people.  They were not God beings.

    The scriptures I read says this

    Isa 43:10…..you are my witness, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was “no” God formed, neither shall there be after me.  

    Isa 44:8… Fear you not, neither be afraid: have not I told you from that time, and have declared it? You are my witnesses, is there a God beside me? Yea, there is “NO” God; I know “NOT ANY”. 

    Thats clear to me, not to even mention we the LORD said he looked for other God’s, and found none. Even JESUS SAID THE LORD OUR God was the “only” true GOD, that tells me there are no other true God’s of anykind. 

    Do you know what the word GOD means?  Perhaps if you did it might change your false conclusions.

    Seems you are the arogrant accuser here, you accuse and attack those  who disagree with you over and over.

    Peace and love to you and yours ………gene

     

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     Jodi 
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    Good Morning TC,

    You gave,

    Beware of Antichrist Deceivers
    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward. 9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; 11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.

    JESUS the human born under the law from a human woman said in Matthew to be of the GENES of Joseph who is a son of David, making Jesus thus a son of David, which is exactly what Matthew says he is a descendant of, not only David but also Abraham.

    This son of David was MADE into God’s Son through God begetting him of His Spirit, just as God promised David. Also God had promised Abraham that through his SEED would come the anointed of God’s Spirit to be a covenant for the people where through him all nations would be blessed.

    No other human is said to have been given God’s Spirit without measure. No other human according to God’s word in Isaiah would God give HIS glory to, a HUMAN a son of David and Abraham GIVEN God’s glory, being called to righteousness to be a covenant for all people a LIGHT, such occurred in the FLESH of Jesus, God’s WORD HIS PROMISE MADE FLESH.

    Jesus the anointed, when he was sent out JUST as JESUS SAYS himself he was SENT, just as he says the Spirit was upon him in Luke 4, MEANS he CAME to the people in FLESH.

    Anyone who tries to make the CHRIST into anything other than our Almighty LORD’S PROMISE to Abraham and to David is ANTICHRIST. 

    You take the person of WHO the passage is speaking of, the Son of Man Jesus of Nazareth and say it is speaking of a non flesh being becoming flesh. THAT IS FALSE and goes against the very WORD of God, His promises, CLEARLY GIVEN to you in multiple scriptures. 

    The one performing signs and miracles was in the FORM of God because he was given the fullness of God’s Spirit without any measure, the people beheld his glory, the glory that God said He would not give to any other HUMAN. Do you just DENY the prophets TC?? People wanted to make him into the LIKES of a PAGAN god, they invented all manner if theories and falsehoods about him, the truth is plainly written throughout TC, Jesus was the Son of Man of the SEED of David and Abraham who God begat with His Spirit without measure, so it is FACT to say that Jesus, the PERSON BORN on earth GIVEN THAT NAME, when he was SENT according to when Jesus says himself he was SENT beginning in Galilee, he CAME unto the people FULLY as FLESH, a HUMAN BEING. Such was said because there would be false teachers as you clearly are one when you say that a non flesh son of God was sent down to earth to save. There is but one Savior, and it is the God of Jesus, and He has saved us through ANOINTING Jesus, resting His Spirit upon him, where he was called to righteousness, where God held his hand and kept him for a covenant, of which YOU are saved through. That CALLING of one from among the people brought him to be MADE PERFECT, which was God’s determined purpose before He made the world. By BEING MADE perfect, a HUMAN MADE perfect you are saved, saved by the WORKS of God’s Spirit in the spirit of a man, who through that spirit was able to remain without sin, was able to deny his weak flesh and die for you. You have no clue TC what God’s Gospel is, what God’s glory is, and what the glory of Jesus’s is. The glory of Jesus is the glory of a HUMAN having God in him where he could remain without sin, show his faith to God in a final and ultimate test to his death, instead of having faith in the mind of man where man eats the fruit of his own way following his own desires. Because of God’s work in the human Jesus where he was perfected he was not worthy of death.

    You people don’t get it!! Why is it that God allowed for one man to wipe away all our sins. We are justified through him because God can do the SAME for us through His Spirit, make us perfect also, a human fully able to follow the will of God. Such is why Paul tells us that we are all of the first Adam, but we will be of the Last Adam, a perfect human following God’s will. You change Jesus into anything other than a human you destroy God’s Gospel, His glory, and the glory of Jesus, and by such you then have no glory yourself. I am a JOINT heir with Jesus the anointed, as I will also be anointed with God’s Spirit as he was to a point of human perfection. All in Christ are of ONE BODY, and that body lives through and by the ONE SPIRIT, our heavenly Father’s Spirit. Such is exactly why we are told that Jesus is firstborn of the dead OF many brethren. Twisting this glorious and simple truth making Jesus into someone other than one of his own brethren is antichrist. The unity of our FAITH is to believe that Jesus is a perfect HUMAN, made such through the fullness of God’s Spirit working in him. 

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