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    Hi DT,

    You:

       Me: I TELL YOU, NOTHING OF FLESH AT ALL!

    You: You don’t tell me much of anything except foolishness.

    ME: I ALREADY MADE CLEAR ABOUT YOUR WISDOM, READ AGAIN WHAT I TOLD YOU IN MY POST 946297

    INSTEAD, YOU OPTED TO PLAY WITH WORDS,

     WHICH PROVES THAT YOU ARE NOT EVEN SMELLING THE TRUTH,

    THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AS YOU PROC…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: @Carmel,
    Me: I REPEAT WHAT I SAID IN MY POST: 946277 TRUTH HURTS!!!!

    You: You have to present truth first.

    ME: HERE COMES THE PURE TRUTH, AND YOU HAVE TO START

    CHEWING GOD’S SPIRITUAL WORK:

    NOTHING OF FLESH AT ALL!

    Genesis 17:1 And after he began to be ninety and nine years old, the Lord appeared to him: and said unto him:

    IF…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: The question still stands, how can Jesus be the messiah when his biological father isn’t of the line of David, the line of Solomon, or a descendant of Abraham;

    when Jesus’ “father” is the spirit?

    I REPEAT WHAT I SAID IN MY POST: 946277

    TRUTH HURTS!!!!

    ME: SO IS THAT HOW YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD WHO IS OMNIPOTENT???

    YOU SIMPLY…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You:You then bring up Abraham and Sarah and presume in Gen 21:1 (which has nothing to do with the Messiah) 

    MUSTN’T THE JEWISH MESSIAH BE A SON OF ABRAHAM???

     

     It would seem it is you who doesna’t believe in God’s power to open the womb of a barren woman.

    Kind of like HE did for Rachael and Hagar.

    Me: Just read what I sugge…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: We cannot forget it was the spirit is who impregnated Mary and NOT of the seed of David.
    Once again, you are justifying lies.
    TRUTH HURTS!!!!

    ME: SO IS THAT HOW YOU BELIEVE IN A  GOD WHO IS OMNIPOTENT???

    YOU HAVE FAITH AS MUCH AS THE MUSLIMS, IF NOT LESS, AS THEY BELIEVE THAT GOD CANNOT HAVE A SON SINCE HE HAS NOT A WOMAN!!

    HA…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: We cannot forget it was the spirit is who impregnated Mary and NOT of the seed of David. Once again, you are justifying lies.

    Me: Let’s consider FOR THE TIME BEING, the discussion of Jesus’ genealogy BETWEEN US, as the SON OF MAN, ENDED IN A STALEMATE.

    THUS FOR A CHANGE, I AM TACKLING THIS PROCESS, AS YOU HINTED OUT, FROM GOD’S S…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Carmel, I would bet that the only way that YOU SEE that I am contradicting myself or that YOU SEE that I am admitting what I deny, is if you are taking what I have said and are applying it to what YOU further believe and then pretend that I believe that too.</span>

    Me: Jodi, read again what you…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,
    <h4><span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Berean</span></h4>
    <h2><span style=”color: #0000ff;”> “the WORD” is not a pre-existing Jesus</span></h2>
    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”> existing before and speaking creation into existence.</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”> “The WORD” is God’s Spirit with the promise that it will </span>
    <h2><spa…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: We cannot forget it was the spirit is who impregnated Mary and NOT of the seed of David. Once again, you are justifying lies.

    Me: Let’s consider FOR THE TIME BEING, the discussion of Jesus’ genealogy BETWEEN US, as the SON OF MAN, ENDED IN A STALEMATE.

    THUS FOR A CHANGE, I AM TACKLING THIS PROCESS, AS YOU HINTED OUT, FROM GOD’S…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    Me: “when there were no sons to preserve the inheritance, the husband (son-in-law) would become the son upon marriage to keep up the family name.”

    You: I haven’t found this verse that says when marrying the daughter of a son less man the man being married becomes

    the “son” of that man…..

     ME: Back to square one!

    Luke is following…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Me: Lineage ran through the father and NOT the mother.</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>The mother has NOTHING to do with lineage,</span>

    Me: NOT QUITE PRECISE:

    Luke gives the name Heli (the father of Mary) but then doesn’t list Mary but mentions Joseph. Why?

    LET’S SEE HOW VITAL THE WOMAN IS, C…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: Thank you for putting this at the top; I don’t have to read any further, because the rest of what you will say will be foolishness.

    What part of Numbers 1:2 escapes your understanding? Did you even go look it up before you made this “statement” of justification?!? Let me give you the passage for your reading enjoyment:

    Num 1:2 “…[Read more]

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    You: Me: Ahhh, NO! I asked  for where Jechoniah asked for forgiveness 

    ME: THE ABOVE IS IRRELEVANT, AS JESUS WAS NOT OF JECONIAH, JOSEPH WAS, AND JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF JOSEPH AT ALL. BUT THE SON OF MARY  OF NATHAN!

    ANOTHER OF DAVID’S LINEAGE.

    This is also also in contrast to Matthew, as Luke begins his genealogy with his own time and goes ba…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    YOU: <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>I’ve already said all I can; </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>all you have given me are man’s opinions and reasonings for why Jechoniah is listed. </span>

    ISN’T THAT WHAT YOU ASKED FOR?

    Also, the prophecy need mean no more than Jeconiah’s immediate sons wouldn’t be kings because the Babylon…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: Couple issues with this passage and claiming it speaks of Jesus; the most glaring and obvious, Jesus was never called “Immanuel.”

    Then I would encourage you to read chapter 7 in its entirety (as Jodi says context, context, context and Gene says we shouldn’t be “cherry picking” – like picking one verse out of 25 and not applying it…[Read more]

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    Hi DT, and ALL,

    You: Copy and pasting an entire page from a website doesn’t really constitute as research;

    it just means you looked something up and re-posted it.

    Me: IT ALSO MEANS SOMETHING ELSE! JUST READ WHAT I SAID IN MY POST#946135

    I am not that KEEN and as familiar as YOU ARE with the Hebrew scriptures I opted to do some r…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: @Carmel,

    Why would I go with an Aramaic translation when we have access to the Hebrew? You found an interesting translation;

    how long did it take for you to find that butchering of God’s word?

    ME: for the sake of the truth:

    ALL MY LIFE:

    FROM MY SIDE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS WELL!!! NO???

     

    HERE IS WHAT YOU ASKED F…[Read more]

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    Hi DT.

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: I’m wanting to make sure I understand what God said first before trying understand the meanings behind what a bunch of sages debated.</span>

    FIRST AND FOREMOST, WITH EVERY RESPECT, KNOWING YOU AND YOUR PERSPECTIVES, ENTIRELY PHYSICAL;

    YOU ARE IN A VERY UNREALISTIC  SITUATION I’M AFRAID,  AS UND…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

    You: Nothing in what you wrote supported why Jechoniah should be in the lineage of Jesus,

    Me: I agree!

    Thus as I am not that KEEN and as familiar as YOU ARE with the Hebrew scriptures I opted to do some research, THROUGH A JEW AND RABBINIC SOURCES.

    They also agree that God reversed the curse on Jeconiah, which they attribute to…[Read more]

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    Hi DT,

     

     

    You: Jechoniah is listed in the lineage of Jesus (Matt 1:11),

    a name that God said

    “Write ye this man childless,

    a man that shall not prosper in his days:

    for no man of his seed shall prosper,

    sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling anymore in Judah.”

    (Jer 22:30) Did you catch it? Jechoniah is in the lineage of Jes…[Read more]

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