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So in your mind God’s version of scripture, is what you say?
Yes that is the correctly translated text is what you disagree with. The worse part is you do not even say it was mistranslated or whatever. You just the say opposite of of what the text actually says, then accuse anyone who disagrees as to not having a spirit that you have. But what spirit is that exactly? The one that denies Jesus is the Christ?
Scripture:
Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”
Nick:
Today in the City of David an ordinary man was born to you. He became Christ the Lord later because he had the best CV among men for the job. And this will be a sign to you: You will find a man in a river being baptised”.
Let me think which one I should believe Nick…… Yeah, I’m going with the Bible Nick….. I hope you don’t get too upset about that.
Hi Nick,
water always takes the easiest path.
The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.” John 3,8
wind finds it way anywhere. you have to breathe Nick.
T8…..GOD “ONLY” IS THE SAVIOR, he saved us through the offering of the Blood of “His” lamb, Jesus.
BUT T8 here is your REAL problem in a nut shell.
ACTS 13: 22-23….. AND when he (God) had removed, him (king Saul) he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man’s “SEED ” has GOD according to his promise raised up unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus.
You tell us you believe scripture exactly as it is written right, well do you believe the above scriptures exactly as they are written? Did Jesus come into his “existence” through the loins of king David?, is he actually, the root and offspring of King David as he said he was? Rev 22:16
Do you “truly” believe those scriptures T8? PLEASE TELL US.
Peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Hi T8,
You tell us that to be born the Christ is to be born already anointed.
Such simplism defies the prophetic nature of scripture.
It is human logic applied to the spiritual.
Try to align your thoughts with the Spirit.
Hi Princess,
Be free.
Be blown by the wind which knows where it goes.
Step into the water and let go of the ground.
Be swept where the water must go.
Hi T8,
To keep repeating a wrong interpretation does not make it become true.
But the repeating of a mantra may help soothe your anxieties.
Hi TC,
The Word became flesh and dwelt amongst us.
You assume it must have been at conception.
But test your assumption against revelation.
The fullness of deity was in the Son of God.
Hi T8,
So if the text is correctly translated you cannot be wrong in your interpretation of it.
Why is it always just about you?
Hi Princess,
You need air to breathe but the air is not the spiritual wind.
You need water to live but the water is not the spiritual river.
1peter 1.24
All flesh is like grass, and it’s glory like the flower of grass.
The grass withers, and the flower falls off,
but the word of the Lord endures forever.
Hi T8,
Lk 2.10
Do not be afraid; for Behold I bring you good news of great joy which will be for all the people.
For today in the city of David there has been born for you a saviour who is Christ the Lord.
This will be a sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.
Yes the appointed Saviour, the Lord and Christ, was born in Bethlehem.
Born of woman and born under the Law he fulfilled the law and was made clean.
Then he was anointed with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan that we might follow him into life.
Facts don’t care about your feelings
You tell us that to be born the Christ is to be born already anointed.
The text says he was the Christ when he was born. Read it for yourself, but you need to be honest.
So if the text is correctly translated you cannot be wrong in your interpretation of it.
The text says:
Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”
Your interpretation of this is to draw an opposite conclusion. I simply read it as it is. And to prove my point, when I simply quote this, you try to correct me. That proves to me that you oppose this even though you would never admit it. These are the facts and facts don’t care about feelings.
Hi T8,
No YOU are involved.
YOU have offered us YOUR interpretation and claim it is infallible.
Why not grow up and listen to the Spirit of Truth and you may get closer to being always correct?
Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”
That’s interesting Nick. I am accused of using my own interpretation or creating this from my own understanding, yet in reality I am merely quoting scripture and the message of an angel.
And you supposedly have the true interpretation, whereas I am not translating it at all as it is clear enough on its own and I metely quote that text. Lol.
THE IRONY.
Hi t8,
YOU: But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! For behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people: Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”
Jodi, I believe this scripture as it is clearly written and you do not. Simple.
It’s not even a debate. It is just a matter of pointing this out in the hope that delusions based on false doctrine make persons question their doctrine knowing that it contradicts scripture.ME: YES I believe that the angel called Jesus our SAVIOR at his birth, THE discussion is as to WHY he declared these things at his birth. You don’t want to go further into WHY the angel said “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”.
t8, just as I said, YOU DO NOT WANT TO ADDRESS WHY the angel said what he said, because if you did address the REASON WHY the angel said what he said according to scriptures, your own doctrine would be destroyed.
According to scriptures, according to God’s word, ACCORDING to prophecy is WHY, but you just choose to ignore prophecy. You conveniently say it does NOT apply.
Acts 13: 22 After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.’ 23 “From this man’s descendants God has brought to Israel the Savior Jesus, as he promised.
Matthew 21:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: FOR HE SHALL save his people from their sins.
Acts 10:37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him. 9 “We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a cross, 40 but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. 41 He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen—by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. 43 ALL THE PROPHETS testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”
Hi Gene,
YOU Addressed t8: ACTS 13: 22-23….. AND when he (God) had removed, him (king Saul) he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Of this man’s “SEED ” has GOD according to his promise raised up unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus.
You tell us you believe scripture exactly as it is written right, well do you believe the above scriptures exactly as they are written? Did Jesus come into his “existence” through the loins of king David?, is he actually, the root and offspring of King David as he said he was? Rev 22:16
Do you “truly” believe those scriptures T8? PLEASE TELL US.
ME: GREAT QUESTION!!
wondering if he believes this scripture just how it is stated,
Acts 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Honesty there is such hypocrisy going on with t8 it is unbelievable. He won’t believe countless scriptures where Jesus is called a man, a human. He says that God cannot make a man perfect.
Did Jesus come into his “existence” through the loins of king David?, is he actually, the root and offspring of King David as he said he was? Rev 22:16
Do you “truly” believe those scriptures T8? PLEASE TELL US
There is no hypocracy here Jodi as I clearly teach that Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.
In fact I believe the hypocracy comes from those who pretend to believe that Jesus Christ came in the flesh when in actual fact, they believe he was not the Christ when he came in the flesh. I think people end up believing such things contrary to what is written because their hearts are not right by reason of their prideful knowledge and own understanding.
YES I believe that the angel called Jesus our SAVIOR at his birth, THE discussion is as to WHY he declared these things at his birth. You don’t want to go further into WHY the angel said “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord”.
Jesus Christ came in the flesh when? He partook of flesh when? Listen to the angel who said ‘today in the City of David’.
He was born as the Christ and he was baptised by John who initially refused him, but Jesus said do it to fulfill all righteousness. Upon baptism and the descending of the Spirit upon the messiah, his ministry began. Empowered from on high, this does not in any way negate the unique birth from the Spirit of God when he came into the world.
Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
And in case you think this impossible, can I remind you that the same one who baptized Jesus who was lesser than the messiah and not even worthy to tie his shoe laces also had this same spirit at birth.
Your doctrine if true would have John as being greater than Jesus because clearly John had the Spirit of God and you say Jesus did not. Open your eyes.
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s womb.
Hi T8,
Reverting to trust in human wisdom and logic to try to grasp the prophetic word?
That is what led to the trinity folly.
Let go and let God.
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