The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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  • #821602
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    Was President Obama was born in Hawaii ?
    Yes, unless he was really born in Kenya

    Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?

    Yes or No

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #821603
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….Unto us (mankind) a child is “born”, unto us (mankind) a “son” is given. Jesus at berth was simply a human baby, “exactly” the same as us, he was not the Christ until he was anointed by God at the Jordan river, that is when the spirit from God the Father entered into him, just like it must us also indwell us inorder for us also to be raised from the grave.

    If we view Jesus as different then us, then we are moving his idenity away from us and all mankind, as the trinitarians do, they call him and worship him as a God turning themselves into IDOLATERS. This false “IMAGE” OF JESUS, TURNS THE “IMAGE” OF HIM INTO the “Image” of A MAN OF SIN. 2THS 2.

    REMEMBER the first commandment “you shall have no other God besides me”, you shall make no “IMAGE” of ME in heaven above or earth beneath.

    Remember also what Jesus said, “many will come in my name SAYING I AM, AND DECIEVE MANY”, SO Jesus warned us that the great deception that caused the apostate churches to fall away, would be A “LIE” about him, it is crucial Edj, we see Jesus the right way, seeing Jesus the right way takes the Spirit of truth, which delievers us from all the confusion and deception that is in, so-called christanity.

    Remember also what Jesus told us, Enter you in at the strait gate, “straight is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life and “few” there be that find it, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there be go in thereat therof”.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #821604
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    As President Obama was born  in Hawaii the anointed Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

    But just as Obama was yet to named or to become the president

    Neither was the baby named or anointed.

    #821605
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    Acts 2.22

    Men of Israel, listen to these words;

    Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs

    which God performed through him in your midst, just as you yourselves know-

    this man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God,

    you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put him to death.

     

    A MAN enabled to do the work of God by the anointing of God.

    #821606
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    The Holy Spirit was upon Simeon.

    He said in Lk 2.34

    Behold this child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel…

    APPOINTED.

    Yet to be anointed.

    Lk.2.40

    The child continued to grow and become strong, increasing in wisdom;

    and the grace of God was upon him.

     

    Grace.

    Yet to be anointed

    #821607
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    You teach

    JESUS FLESH WAS CONCEIVED IN MARY

    So you see a division between the flesh and his soul and spirit?

    Big call.

     

    Again to you he is not a man like us.

    No such division exists in the sons of Adam.

    Seems a vastly different conception than that for other men.

    And now to you it is not just the spirit that was birthed at Bethlehem but the soul as well?

     

    #821608
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Edj….Listen to what Nick and I are telling you, we are telling you the truth brother. You must see Jesus as comming into his existence as a human being, just like you and all mankind. “Sense by man sin came into the world, by man it is atoined for”. I tell you Edj., you must come to see Jesus as we are, or his death would not have paid for our sins. Remember “Jesus is the first born of “MANY BRETHERN”.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #821609
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Ed,

    You are right Gene.

     

    1cor 15.21

    Since by a man came Death, by a man also came the resurrection from the dead.

    For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.

     

    Jesus had to be a man to fulfill the plan of God, not a heavenly being in flesh.

    The new creation includes only those who share the Spirit of Christ

    #821624
     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick,

    President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
    Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem?

    Yes or No ?

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #821759
     t8 
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    Hi Ed,

    As President Obama was born  in Hawaii the anointed Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

    But just as Obama was yet to named or to become the president

    Neither was the baby named or anointed.

    Let me interpret this for all to see. Nick basically said that neither was Jesus the Christ in the context of the child Jesus.

    Let’s apply a simple acid test to see what spirit this is coming from:

    for today in the city of David there has been born for you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord

    Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist–denying the Father and the Son.

    I really wish for Nick’s sake he wasn’t motivated by this antichrist spirit, but he has demonstrated it and had to be called out.

    Was Obama born to be the president, or did he get that office from a combination of choices he and other people made. Did Jesus become the Christ because of his own choice and the choice of other men? Nick has been exposed. Jesus was born the Christ. He was later baptized and his ministry of power and miracles began proving that was indeed the Christ. It didn’t prove that he had become the Christ as Nick teaches.

    The antichrist spirit cannot help itself. It will confess to you one way or another that Jesus is not the Christ. It might concede that he is the Christ, but didn’t provide salvation for men in his name like Islam, it might say that his last few years he became a christ, or it might say that he is one of many christs, but it cannot say that Jesus was born the Christ in Bethlehem and was clothed with power from on high in the Jordan. That power he received was the Spirit of God descending in like manner a dove from whence he began his ministry proving indeed that he was that Christ.

    A quick question to ponder. Is an apple tree an apple tree if it has not produced an apple yet? In context of Jesus, Nick is basically saying an apple tree becomes an apple tree upon producing the first apple. Even he knows this is wrong thinking.

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     t8 
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    Nick cannot give you a yes no answer to that question EdJ, because he has things to hide in the darkness.

    Why rely on the Evil One Nick? Let your yes be yes and no be no. It is a fair question Nick. You should be feeling bad about this.

    #821762
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Do I have an antichrist spirit?

    Do I have things to hide?

     

    This is an unusual accusation to make against someone who disagrees with your dogma that denies his anointing at the Jordan.

    Is this your usual approach to dealing with disagreement?

    And you want to be a teacher?

     

     

    #821763
     t8 
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    Nick, if any man cannot say yes or no to a fair and clear question then what are we to think. Clearly we are told that such a one is colluding with the Evil One, and I suppose even if he is not aware of it

    You then preach that Jesus was not the Christ for the majority of his life on Earth vs scripture that points out clearly that he was born the Christ and how the AntiChrist Spirit denies Jesus as the Christ. Basically you teach that Jesus Christ is the Christ. But scripture says Jesus is the Christ. Jesus was born in Bethlehem as the Christ.

    You prove to us you do not have such a spirit. The ball is in your court not ours. Thus far, the scripture condemns you till you prove otherwise.

    I think it is foolish to let pride take you as far as it has. I say repent and I say it to all who deny Jesus as the Christ at any stage.

    Sometimes Nick the love of God is tough. When you rescue someone from the flames or a raging torrent, being gentle is not the best way. Sometimes you just need to call it what it is. Surely scripture warns us about not warning others when you have the opportunity.

    #821764
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Then show us your judgements against the words of the Messiah.

    #821765
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Where does scripture teach that Jesus was born AS the Christ?

    Is this just your personal interpretation?

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