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Hi t8,
YOU:My point: there is more to being the Christ than being baptized and receiving the Holy Spirit.
ME:
t8, you have been given how the anointing of Jesus with the Holy Spirit is DIFFERENT from all others who have been anointed with the Spirit.
God’s word spoken by the prophets makes it VERY CLEAR.
Jesus is the only mortal man who received the Spirit without measure.
Jesus is the only mortal man to receive the Spirit unto a calling to fulfill all righteousness.
Jesus is the only mortal man to have God direct ALL his ways.
Jesus is the only mortal man who God made perfect to BECOME our source for eternal salvation.
Jesus is the firstborn of the dead who has been given dominion overall the works of God’s hands,
“Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.” Isaiah 53:12
Anoint means to consecrate/dedicate/set apart! Jesus is the only man who God set apart with the measure of His Spirit given unto him so that he could be our savior. The only man called to righteousness where God would hold his hand and keep him for a covenant, for to be a LIGHT unto all people.
Hi t8,
It is sad to me t8 that you do not give much mind to the fact that God’s Spirit is said to call a man to righteousness, holding his hand, keeping him, for to be a LIGHT to all people.
This is our Christ, it is the Gospel of God,
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. 39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: 40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
The man God anointed t8, God raised him from the dead, and ordained him to be the judge of the quick and the dead.
Recall Psalm 8, how God was going to be mindful of a man, VISIT him, make him lower than the angels for the suffering of death and then crown him with glory and honor, giving him dominion over all the works of His hands.
Recall Isaiah 42, how God was going to rest His Spirit upon a man, call a man to righteousness for to be a LIGHT to all people, and God would give him glory like no other.
t8, there is NO one of a kind spirit creature who God anointed/set apart/dedicated to come to earth and transform into an infant to become our LIGHT and Savior.
There is a man of the offspring of Abraham, Jesse, and David who God anointed/set apart/dedicated to be a LIGHT and become our source for eternal salvation, to become the firstborn of eternal life and then judge the quick and the dead, making his brethren joint heirs with him, being an heir of God.
YOU are told WHEN Jesus was anointed and WHEN the Christ was SENT out into the world. The Anointed One came AFTER the baptism John preached, he came to the people having been SENT from heaven/directly by God to fulfill all of God’s will, beginning in Galilee.
T8…..no , the word christ comes from the word christo’s in GREEK, and Messiah in Hebrew, both simply mean an anointed person. Why do you think the word applied to Jesus means different then being applied to others, like say Moses m or all the other prophets? All true believers are anointed ones, it is the earnest that we have recieved from God the Father, it’s what makes us Sons of God, it ties our “idenity” with Jesus, scripture says Jesus is the firstborn of “many” brothers.
Now if the (anointing ) spirit that raised JESUS, (the anointed one) from the grave, dwell in you, he (God ) shall also quicken your mortal body. Same spirit, same God “in” all and through “all”.
T8….there are places in our scriptures that shows plainly that the word Christo’s does not always even applies to Jesus at all. When the Spirit of God resides on a person they are “anointed” of God. . We may not have the fullness of the Spirit yet, but we are anointed, with the ‘spirit of truth”, which gives us the cognisity of the truth when we hear it, given to us from God the Father. Remember where it says, “that God may be in you all ” and again “and know you not, that your body “is” the temple of the living God? ” (that is if you have recieved into you the spirit that Jesus recieved)
We do not “seperate” Jesus from our exact idenity with him as a human being and a son of God also, just as we are. Or haven’t you ever read,
Gal 4:6-7 ….And because you are son’s , God has sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying Abba , Father. 7, wherefore you are no more a servant, but a son, and if a “Son”, then an heir of God through CHRIST (the anointed).
1 John 3:2…..beloved, “NOW” are you the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear , we shall be like him because we shall see him as he is. (Or be exactly like him)
T8…. we that have recieved the (anointing) spirit are “NOW” sons of God.
Peace and love to you and yours………….gene
It is sad to me t8 that you do not give much mind to the fact that God’s Spirit is said to call a man to righteousness, holding his hand, keeping him, for to be a LIGHT to all people.
Um. are you just making stuff up now or what? This comment misses the target by 500 miles.
Back to the drawing board Jodi.
T8…..no , the word christ comes from the word christo’s in GREEK, and Messiah in Hebrew, both simply mean an anointed person. Why do you think the word applied to Jesus means different then being applied to others, like say Moses m or all the other prophets? All true believers are anointed ones…
So let me get this straight, you are Gene the Christ now?
YOU are told WHEN Jesus was anointed and WHEN the Christ was SENT out into the world. The Anointed One came AFTER the baptism John preached, he came to the people having been SENT from heaven/directly by God to fulfill all of God’s will, beginning in Galilee.
We are told when Jesus Christ…He was the Christ back in the City of David. Thus, your paragraph could be worded ‘Jesus Christ’ instead of just ‘Jesus’. But you would disagree with this as you do the following scripture:
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Good Morning t8,
You just ignore all points I have given and from one statement you say I need to go back to the drawing board? What is that?
What is it exactly that you say I am making up? Please explain? I am making up that you don’t give much mind to a certain prophecy and you are telling me that in fact you do?.. though I have yet to hear you actually discuss it, to prove to me that you are mindful of it. Or you think I am actually making up what prophecy says?
THE FACT is t8 that prophecy spoke of a man to come who would be our SAVIOR, who God would rest His Spirit upon him, ANOINTING/consecrating/setting him apart/dedicating him to fulfill His will by calling him to righteousness for to be a LIGHT, directing all his ways for to be a LIGHT to all people, and then giving him a portion of the spoil among the great for doing so, and anointing him to divide the spoil as a MASTER over all creation, of the quick and the dead, for doing so.
But you don’t want me to apply such prophecies to the angel’s words, when he spoke of good tidings of great joy that shall be for all people, saying the sign of such good tidings is of a babe wrapped lying in a manger.
ACCORDING TO YOU I SHOULD NOT SEE the BABE as the Savior, as the Messiah, and as the Master spoken ACCORDING TO PROPHECY, spoken according to God’s word, His PROMISES.
To you the babe is a Savior, a Messiah and a Master according to your own doctrine that you apply to the angel’s words, instead of the direct promises God gave.
T8…..Jesus is the anointed one by God the Father who has also anointed us, and has made us “joint heirs with Jesus ” who is also anointed by him. We “the anointed” are son’s and daughters of God our Father, the same God and Father JESUS HAS, WE ARE NOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF JESUS. Why do you think it say he (Jesus ) is the “first born of many brothers). ?
Your “prexisting” teachings make JESUS different then us, humans, you preach a “Doctrine of Seperation”. Driving a wedge between Jesus and his brothers and sisters. bad form T8.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Jodi writes:
To All,
Let us separate the difference of beliefs according to The Ordinary Jesus Brigade,
Belief 1. Jesus is not ordinary because he pre-existed as an anointed spirit and then came down to begin a new life as a baby sucking his mom’s breasts and soiling himself.
It is by Jesus pre-existing as an anointed spirit and becoming a human that we are able to be saved.
Belief 2. Jesus is not ordinary because he is the only mortal human who God elected out of the people, setting him apart by directing all his ways through having His Spirit abode upon him without measure.
It is by God calling the son of Jesse to righteousness for to be a LIGHT that we are saved.
Hi Jodi,
I thought that you only believed Belief #2.
Are you saying you believe Belief #1 as well?____________
God bless
Ed JGood Morning t8,
To you the babe is a Savior, a Messiah and a Master according to your own doctrine that you apply to the angel’s words, instead of the direct promises God gave.
Hi Jodi,
According to the Angels too…
“And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.” (Heb 1:6)
Belief 1. Jesus is not ordinary because he pre-existed as an anointed spirit and then came down to begin a new life as a baby sucking his mom’s breasts and soiling himself.
LOL. I think you will find that the latter part of this statement is true no matter what your belief is.
And this highlights the sacrifice that he made. Not only did he die for us, but he also left the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.
In order for this to happen, he emptied himself which in my view helped immensely. It would be very difficult to leave the glory he had with his Father, but emptying oneself and coming as an innocent new born meant he started his life here like us. Great and wondrous indeed.
but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.
Hi Ed J,
YOU:
Jodi writes:
To All,
Let us separate the difference of beliefs according to The Ordinary Jesus Brigade,Hi Jodi,
I thought that you only believed Belief #2.
Are you saying you believe Belief #1 as well?ME: I only believe in #2, that is why I said “let us separate the DIFFERENCE of beliefs”.
Thank you Jodi for clarifying your belief for all here
I started a new thread, hope to hear your response in it…
Hi EdJ
Good video 👍
Jesus Christ
He’s the Shepherd, not a sheep. He more then just a good Man.
Maybe that will help Jodi and Gene.
Watch that video.
God bless 🙏
To all…….please read……Rev 5:6, 5:8, 5:12, 5:13, 6:1, 6:16, 7:9 , 7:10, 7:14, 7:17,12:11, 13:8, 13:8,13:11, 14:1, 14:4, 14:10, 15:3, 17:14, 19:7, 19:9, 21:9, 21:14, 21:22, 21:23, 21:27, 22:1, 22:3, seems he is deffinately the Lamb of God. That is if you believe what you read in scriptures. He is also a Shepard of God’s childern, he called himself the “good Shepard”, John 10:11, 10:14, these are just some of the names applied to Jesus , there are others also.
But remember Jesus said there was only one that was good, and that was God, many try to use those scriptures as trying to mean Jesus himself was good person, but that is like saying a good mechanic is a good person, we know that is not true because a good mechanic can be a very evil person, the same applies to a good Shepard, that doesn’t mean he is nessarley good person, when Jesus said that God was the only one that was good, he was referencing to the only completely truly “good” one, and he was not speaking of a person as himself, being a “good” shepard as being “all” good . as falsely preached, by false teachers do.
People love to force text to say what they actually are not saying , but those who love the truth can see the difference. Imo
Peace and love to you all and yours. ………gene
Gene
JESUS CHRIST is the Good Shepherd he goes out for the lost sheep. The sheep doesn’t go out for the Shepherd.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.”
The Good Shepherd.
But knowing you Gene you’ll have to debate and strir of strife,
God bless
Gene your the one that forces scriptures to say something they don’t. Your one of the main false teachers on this site, there alot of false teachers online, there easy spot.
God bless
Hi
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.”
God bless
Hi t8,
It is sad to me t8 that you do not give much mind to the fact that God’s Spirit is said to call a man to righteousness, holding his hand, keeping him, for to be a LIGHT to all people.
Your making stuff up now and bearing false witness.
He emptied himself and was as one of us. He needed God even more than we do due to his mission. In fact, he even learned obedience.
Keep the debate simple and try not to add in ad hominems. They are unnecessary distractions. And it will save you from being sad too.
Anthony. …Please show me any scripture I force to say what it doesn’t in fact clearly say. I even quote them word for word for you, but it is you who just ignore them. As far as Jesus himself being a “good shepard ” show me where I have ever denied that. You call me a false teacher, but show nothing to prove it, that makes you a “false” witness Anthony, as T8 said. You come here trying to cause divisions acting like you have a better understanding of scriptures then we do, but in fact you do not understand some of them clearly yet.
If I were you I would seek to get the beam out of your own eye before trying to get the speck out of our eyes. Anthony you need to listen to what Jesus “actually” says, and think about it, instead of telling us things about him, he actually did not say. Imo
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
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