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the spirit of life is the breath ,all living creature recieve it as a gift through birth process.
this is not the holy spirit.
Hi T,
The breath of God gave Adam life and creation was told to go forth and multiply.
You are right -that breath that gives man a spirit is not the Spirit of God.dancing
do you understand this???“But the Holy Spirit, *whom* the Father will send in my name, *He* WILL TEACH you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.” Verse 26
Quote (Dancingforyounomore @ Feb. 13 2010,12:49) Sorry Martian, I should have elaborated a little more. As an example: “And we are his witnesses of these things; and so ALSO the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:32
Question: How can mere “breath” be a “witness” to anything?
“And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another *HELPER*. That *HE* may be with you forever, that is, the Spirit of truth *whom* the world cannot receive because it does not *behold Him*, or know *Him*, but you know *Him*, because *He* abides with you *AND WILL BE* in you.” Jn 14:16-17
“But the Holy Spirit, *whom* the Father will send in my name, *He* WILL TEACH you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.” Verse 26
Question: How can “breath” TEACH? And be “another helper”? And how can “breath” be called a “He, Whom, and a *Him*?
Please review Exodus 23:20-22 and compare it with Isaiah 63:9-14
Hi Dancingforyounomore,Thank you for helping to get people to understand that…
HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ ! >>> BELIEVERS PLACE » Scripture & Biblical Doctrine »
A Whole Thread is dedicated to this “Bible Truth”!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybibleccode.orgQuote (martian @ Feb. 18 2010,03:15) Quote (Dancingforyounomore @ Feb. 13 2010,12:49) Sorry Martian, I should have elaborated a little more. As an example: “And we are his witnesses of these things; and so ALSO the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.” Acts 5:32
Question: How can mere “breath” be a “witness” to anything?
“And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another *HELPER*. That *HE* may be with you forever, that is, the Spirit of truth *whom* the world cannot receive because it does not *behold Him*, or know *Him*, but you know *Him*, because *He* abides with you *AND WILL BE* in you.” Jn 14:16-17
“But the Holy Spirit, *whom* the Father will send in my name, *He* WILL TEACH you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.” Verse 26
Question: How can “breath” TEACH? And be “another helper”? And how can “breath” be called a “He, Whom, and a *Him*?
Please review Exodus 23:20-22 and compare it with Isaiah 63:9-14
I do not know what translation you are quoting, but it does not follow the Greek. Words like “him and He” are not present in the Greek. The translation is more accurate by using the word “it”.
Hi Martin,Him, Her, She, He, it; all these pronouns originate from the same Greek word: αύτος ŏw-toś.
All of these words are expressions of the same word and all translate form [αύτος] a plural form word!
Perhaps you were never taught this! They can be all indeed expressions of the “HolySpirit”.
The personal pronoun in ANY English Bible Translation is solely based on the translators discretion.
YOU CANNOT BUILD SOLID BIBLICAL DOCTRINE BASED ON THE WHIMS OF TRANSLATORS! WAKE UP!Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2010,15:38) Quote (Gene @ Feb. 07 2010,11:29) WJ…….Jesus' Honor is not His HONOR but GOD the FATHERS HONOR, (“he who believes in me does (NOT) believe in ME but He who has sent me”, can you figure
what Jesus meant by that statement. Jesus could do (NOTHING) HIMSELF , It was GOD the FATHER doing the WORK Jesus was following What GOD was doing.gene
Hi Gene,Did you see my Post, right after you Posted this?
It's more on the “Seven-Fold” nature of “GOD”!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holtcitybiblecode.org
Bump- For GeneQuote Ed
Quote Jesus retuns back to “God The Father”(HolySpirit) in Heaven after the removal of satan
(successfully removed) from “The Godhead” at the crucifixion of Jesus, after Jesus' death. (Isaiah 14:19)
Once in heaven, Jesus then sends the “HolySpirit” in “God The Fathers” behalf (Isaiah 64:5-6) and
“God The Father”=117 sends “Jesus Christ”(now in Spirit Form) in behalf of HolySpirit along with HolySpirit(Heb.9:28)
back to Earth to dwell in ALL Christian Believers starting on the day of “Pentecost”=117!So Jesus is here in spirit form? So when anyone feels God there, it is Jesus in spirit form?
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 21 2010,21:15) Quote Ed Quote Jesus retuns back to “God The Father”(HolySpirit) in Heaven after the removal of satan
(successfully removed) from “The Godhead” at the crucifixion of Jesus, after Jesus' death. (Isaiah 14:19)
Once in heaven, Jesus then sends the “HolySpirit” in “God The Fathers” behalf (Isaiah 64:5-6) and
“God The Father”=117 sends “Jesus Christ”(now in Spirit Form) in behalf of HolySpirit along with HolySpirit(Heb.9:28)
back to Earth to dwell in ALL Christian Believers starting on the day of “Pentecost”=117!So Jesus is here in spirit form? So when anyone feels God there, it is Jesus in spirit form?
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24) Click Here
Gematria(The God Numbers=151: 26,63,74,117, & 151) & Geometry(Block Geometry=151) help establish Bible Truth!The “THREE” main “FEASTS OF GOD” are…
1) “The Passover”=148; made possible by
“JESUS MESSIAH”=1482) “Pentecost”=117 started the “Former Rain”=117 of
“GOD THE FATHER”=117; “Spirit [of] God”=117(Holy Spirit)3) “Feast of Booths”=151 begins “The Latter Rain”=151 of the
“HOLY SPIRIT”=151(God The Father); “Feast [of] Tabernacles”=151.Gal.4:3-8 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: (2 Peter 3:10-12)
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. (Rev.21:7)
6: And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a [“JEHOVAH SON“=117]; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them (the systems of religion) which by nature are no gods.Gal.4:6 Refers to the fulfillment of John 14:23: our own Personal “Pentecost”!
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will
love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
[Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23]Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those
that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)
Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.
These verses refer to “believers” having their own Personal “Pentecost”; which can be illustrated as…Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!
Psalm 110:1-2 The LORD (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),
Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength (“HolySpirit“)
out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.“YHVH is GOD“=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed
So if someone said they experienced God leading them, teaching them, answering their prayers, on a daily basis, that would be the Father or Jesus? or both? Thats what I dont quite get.
karmarie
That would be God's Holy spirit.
Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Ever since Jesus ascended to heaven, we can worship the Father from anywhere.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
The key words are, spirit, in our mind, and truth.
Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God is a spirit, meaning he is everywhere, and can be worshiped from anywhere, but to worship him in truth is essential. That is to say, if you don't believe the truth, his word the Bible, you don't have the truth, if you don't have the truth, you worship in vain.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Georg
Hi George.
I know I think that is what Ed said too but I was trying to find out more from his understanding.
You said
Quote if you don't believe the truth, his word the Bible, you don't have the truth, if you don't have the truth, you worship in vain. Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Are you saying I dont have the truth?
His word is his Son. The Spirit leads us to truth.
For example one may not be able to even tolerate reading anything religeous including the bible then suddenly their eyes are open.
They cant get enough of reading and searching. This is what happened to me. Then once enough is learned, the spirit within leads.
This is my understanding.Worshipping in spirit and truth means exactly that, the pieces all fit together. The heart, the mind, our understanding, and our feeling.
Our words are not our own but come from within when we approach the Father with truth.Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 25 2010,09:56) His word is his Son. The Spirit leads us to truth.
For example one may not be able to even tolerate reading anything religeous including the bible then suddenly their eyes are open.
They cant get enough of reading and searching. This is what happened to me. Then once enough is learned, the spirit within leads.
This is my understanding.Worshipping in spirit and truth means exactly that, the pieces all fit together. The heart, the mind, our understanding, and our feeling.
Our words are not our own but come from within when we approach the Father with truth.
HI Karmarie,His word is NOT his son, why do you say that?
“The Word” is the “HolySpirit”!Acts:12:24: The Word of God grew and multiplied.
John 14:24: He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and
The Word which ye hear IS not mine, but The Father's which sent me.
Acts:4:31: And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled
together; and they were all filled with the HolySpirit, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
Acts:10:44: While Peter yet spake these words, the HolySpirit fell on all them which heard The Word.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Your offerings do not prove what you hope.The word of God in wisdom and knowledge comes from the Spirit of God but so do all the other aspects of God's amazing Spirit.
God is not His Spirit but His Spirit is of Him.
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 24 2010,20:37) Hi Ed So if someone said they experienced God leading them, teaching them, answering their prayers, on a daily basis, that would be the Father or Jesus? or both? Thats what I dont quite get.
Hi Karmarie,Psalm 32:9: Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding:
whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.They are Inextricably linked together! Click Here for more information
Raising up “Christ”=77 BRINGS “Glory”=77 to “GOD The Father”=117!Philip. 2:11: And that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of GOD The Father.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPS. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask them!
Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 24 2010,20:37) Hi Ed So if someone said they experienced God leading them, teaching them, answering their prayers, on a daily basis, that would be the Father or Jesus? or both? Thats what I dont quite get.
Hi Karmarie,Psalm 32:9: Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding:
whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.They are Inextricably linked together! Click Here for more information
Raising up “Christ”=77 BRINGS “Glory”=77 to “GOD The Father”=117!Philip. 2:11: And that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of GOD The Father.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPS. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask them!
Oh I missed this one- sorry!I understand that God is a title.
I say God. But my understanding of that is where it gets complicated.
I often feel a presence there, I have answers to prayers and I feel guided. It all has to do with God of the bible.
Is it Jesus or is it The Father what would you say is guiding you? Whats your understanding of trinity or non trinity?
And please- not in a riddle but something easy to understand!
Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 24 2010,21:58) karmarie That would be God's Holy spirit.
Jhn 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Ever since Jesus ascended to heaven, we can worship the Father from anywhere.
Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
The key words are, spirit, in our mind, and truth.
Jhn 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
God is a spirit, meaning he is everywhere, and can be worshiped from anywhere, but to worship him in truth is essential. That is to say, if you don't believe the truth, his word the Bible, you don't have the truth, if you don't have the truth, you worship in vain.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Georg
Georg………You have that right brother.peace and love to you and Irene………..gene
Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 25 2010,21:08) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (karmarie @ Feb. 24 2010,20:37) Hi Ed So if someone said they experienced God leading them, teaching them, answering their prayers, on a daily basis, that would be the Father or Jesus? or both? Thats what I dont quite get.
Hi Karmarie,Psalm 32:9: Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding:
whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.They are Inextricably linked together! Click Here for more information
Raising up “Christ”=77 BRINGS “Glory”=77 to “GOD The Father”=117!Philip. 2:11: And that every tongue should confess that
Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of GOD The Father.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPS. If you have any more questions, please feel free to ask them!
Oh I missed this one- sorry!I understand that God is a title.
I say God. But my understanding of that is where it gets complicated.
I often feel a presence there, I have answers to prayers and I feel guided. It all has to do with God of the bible.
Is it Jesus or is it The Father what would you say is guiding you? Whats your understanding of trinity or non trinity?
And please- not in a riddle but something easy to understand!
Hi Karmarie,It doesn't matter if it's GOD The Father or Jesus guiding you.
GOD's HolyCity exists as a “Pattern of Five”: which accounts for both views.Luke 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be FIVE (shown below) in one house (Eph.2:20-22) divided,
three(Trinitarians) against two(non-Trinitarians), and two(non-Trinitarians) against three(Trinitarians).2) The non-Trinitarians view GOD this way….
YHVH GOD is One=151………GOD! (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
LORD of Hosts=151…………..including Jesus and the rest of us!The AKJV Bible uses “LORD of Hosts” repeatedly!
3) And the Trinitarians view GOD this way…
The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)
Jesus Christ=151
HolySpirit=151With God existing as “The Trinity” ABOVE AND “OUT OF REACH”.
Proof of this Fivefold House of God is illustrated using Hebrew, Greek, and the AKJV Bible…The Hebrew word [אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm (in Genesis 1:1 for God) carries the meanings of both “God in the plural”, and also “The Mighty God”.
This can be better illustrated using both the English AKJV Bible’s rendering of JEHOVAH and the Greek’s word for “GOD”.There are five words for “God” the Greek (all are pronounced Thēôs); they are…
Four (4) of these are “plural” forms of the word; only one (1) is used in “singular” form.1) θεος
2) θεου
3) θεω
4) θεον5) θεε
The AKJV Bible has uses the name JEHOVAH four (4) times and JAH (1) once!
JEHOVAH is also used in three (3) phrases (illustrating a trinity)1) JEHOVAH (Exodus 6:3)………..(Exodus 17:15)
2) JEHOVAH (Isaiah 12:2)………..(Gen.22:14)
3) JEHOVAH (Isaiah 26:4)………..(Judges 6:24)
4) JEHOVAH (Psalm 83:18)…………LORD of Hosts5) JAH (Psalm 68:4)……………………used only “once”!
“HolyCityBibleCode” documents how “The God Numbers”=151 integrate with the AKJV Bible.
“HolyCity“
God The Father=117 (Representing God's Name and title GOD: יהוה האלהים)……The LORD JEHOVAH=151
Jesus=74 (God's Son's English Name: “Joshua”)………………………………………..Jesus Christ=151
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)………………………………..LORD of Hosts=151
HolySpirit=151 (“The word”: structure of “GOD” indwelling in us believers!)…….HolySpirit=151יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)………………………………………YHVH GOD is ONE=151
LOOK AT THE UNITY!
GOD's NAME (יהוה) IS written EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
The Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
bears a resemblance to the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.
The wall(Eph.2:14), Jesus died to abolish, is illustrate as a dichotomy: [6823] and [2368].
These points are all explained in great detail in “HolyCityBibleCode”, the free e-book.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.1) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2 / Isaiah 26:4) (Old “Testament”=117)
2) Jesus Christ=151 (“Testator“=151) (Hebrews 9:16-17) (New “Testament”=117)
3) Holy Spirit=151 (“The word“: structure of “GOD” Old and New “Testament”=117)
4) LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible) His Hosts=117: Jesus and ALL of His brethren! (Rev.11:15)
5) YHVH GOD is ONE=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 “is” [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of…
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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