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Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
no, you did not prove me wrong unless you change the gospels ,(teachings of Christ)
So you are sticking with this being correct, even though it contradicts scripture?
the apostles lived with Jesus and Jesus was the light ,only after he went up,they (apostles ) became the light and when they left it was their message that became the light
Look if…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
Terr, this verse does not say that only 144,000 are redeemed from the earth. It says that 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth sang a new song that no one else…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Yes, because it doesn’t say ONLY anywhere.
The 144,000
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred and forty-four thousand sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel:5 from the tribe of Judah, twelve thousand were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, from the tribe of Gad twelve thousand, 6 from the tribe of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
I have ask you if God and his son have changed the gospel call through which all men are called by faith ?
did God through his scriptures as establish a different access to him beside the blood of his son ? please if yes show it to me I may have overlooked it
This doesn’t relate to the topic. If we are told to pray for people, does that somehow…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
bravo;so we should pray for Nero,Hitler,caligula ,and the despot in North Korea,Stalin, and all the likes ,
you should really read your scriptures more carefully ,
Of course we should have at the time they were in authority. Prayer changes things. It is a petition to God about something specific. It doesn’t mean that you pray that Hitler would…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
You seem to take the position of 2
I would say 3, and the explanation is in the two posts above this one.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
In short, the eternal invisible spirit who is God is seen through creation, angels, and primarily through his son.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
See how we can actually see the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
In short, the eternal invisible spirit who is God is seen through creation, angels, and primarily through his son.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities–his eternal power and divine nature–have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
See how we can actually see the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
Togel, the LORD manifests himself through his people. He appears to us when he sends a messenger or the son. The eternal invisible God doesn’t literally walk around and shake people’s hand and drink a glass of water with them. No, he lives inside people that do things like that. In the Old Testament, people saw YHWH when they saw the angel of the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
No, for us, there is one God the Father. I know you are not ‘us’ that is obvious. You have this other doctrine that I have never heard anyone else believe. I have yet to meet one person who agrees with you. But you can go through life as another that is not ‘us’. It is your life, do with it as you will.
yet for us there is but one God, the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Signs can tell us the season or can tell us to look for something God is pointing to. On another scale we use celestial objects as time keepers. Day night, summer winter, year, tides, etc. Not talking about astrology, but the obvious way we use the sun, moon, and stars in everyday time keeping and as pointing to other signs too.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Signs can tell us the season or can tell us to look for something God is pointing to. On another scale we use celestial objects as time keepers. Day night, summer winter, year, tides, etc.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Daniel 2: 20-22
“And he changeth the times and the seasons; He removeth
kings, and setteth up kings; he giveth wisdom unto the wise,
and knowledge to them that know understanding…Daniel 2: 37
“Thou, O king, art a king of kings, for the God of heaven
hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, glory.”Daniel 4: 13-17
“13 I saw in th…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Did he say that God called him, chosen him, to run for president?
He hasn’t said any such thing on that matter and probably not wise to if he believes this.
Regardless, God does appoint leaders whether they acknowledge him or not. Some of them like King Saul acknowledged God, but largely failed. God of course doesn’t over ride the will of a man.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
I am not arrogant for telling the truth ,I told you why this prophecy is not of God ,but you seem to pay more attention to men than to God’s word
You have provided no evidence, only an opinion. Opinions mean little to me, they are a dime a dozen. Everyone has an opinion. Scripture will sway me. Show me where God stopped calling certain men to p…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
I agree. But our old nature cannot change. The son of God came to give those in Adam the chance to partake in a new nature, i.e., divine nature. We are born from above, born of the spirit. This new birth makes us a new creation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
I agree. But our old nature cannot change. The son of God came to give those in Adam the chance to partake in a new nature, i.e., divine nature. We ar ethen born from above, born of the spirit. This new birth makes us a new creation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 6 months ago
ho man,you really misinterpret my words ,
It is straight forward what you said:
the apostles lived with Jesus and Jesus was the light ,only after he went up,they (apostles ) became the light and when they left it was their message that became the light
You acknowledged that the apostles became the light, but after they passed on, it was only their…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Besides the obvious functions of the stars and the moon, they are given for signs and seasons from our point of view. This is clearly laid out in scripture.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The coming four blood moons in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 9 years, 6 months ago
Okay. You could perhaps give this doctrine its own topic for us to comment on. I do not understand what it is.
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