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Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Good Morning t8,
I am believing in precisely what scripture says. You are changing the direct scriptural truth because you are misunderstanding what heavenly and spiritual means.
A strange answer considering I spoke about scripture and what was said and further agreed with it. I was talking about the different bodies and how there are earthly…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
T8…..by preaching Jesus was born with the anointing spirit, and he was not baptized inorder to recieve it, then that put in the ranks of an anti-anointing, or ANTICHRIST person . What you are saying in effect is Jesus was not a true human being, who would need to be anointed with God’s spirit as we have to be. You also preach he prexisted as som…
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
Anthony, I do agree with some of your last post, but not all.
If Jesus is the son of God, then is the father, the Father of God?
No because the Father is God and the son is OF God.
Likewise, we can be sons too and participate in divine nature. That doesn’t make us God even though we can participate in God’s nature, it makes us sons of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Ha ha. You are trying to wrestle these scriptures away from us and give us your words as replacements. The cheek. Let your yes be yes means that you should be able to answer in this manner regarding appropriate questions because we should be honest. Lawyers know that to avoid an incriminating question, you simply provide lots of detail to hide the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
Gene, it is clear that if the Father resides in Jesus us via his Spirit and Jesus can be in us too. Further, we can be one with each other in unity of spirit, then is that to be taken that Jesus is a mere shell body for God. Just as Adam was one with his wife, Eve was not a shell that Adam dwelled in and controlled. You need to look into what it…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Jodi, earthly being vs heavenly being is more than physiological differences. It is about the actual body itself. Just as animals have their kind of body and humans have a body, so angels have a body. There are earthly and heavenly bodies. But you seem to want to change this to mean earthly and heavenly minds to keep your original arguments…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
He cannot answer your question EdJ. He dodges that question by answering a different question.
All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.
Let’s cut to the chase. Believers believe scripture, so the conclusion to draw is obvious.
Nick clearly fails this test. No amount of excuses will change that fact.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why the United States Is a Christian Nation in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
Oh, and try not deviate from the topic Nick.
Regards.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Why the United States Is a Christian Nation in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
But you say it is against flesh and blood?
No again Nick. On first take you nearly always get it wrong. Pray that God will grant you wisdom.
The US government is authority in high places. Further, the kind of government you have can help to allow spiritual powers to rule over a land. These things matter and this is why Believers are instructed to…[Read more]
Proclaimer wrote a new post 7 years, 7 months ago
Matthew 5:37
All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.Have heard the saying that “the devil is in the detail”? People who are not honest have difficu

Proclaimer replied to the topic Why the United States Is a Christian Nation in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
Obviously there is a dark side to the US. It was populated by Christians, Atheists, adherents to other religions, and there is a strong Freemason past. But a nation is essentially people and although there is evil in high places of which we have been told who we wrestle against, Americans have struggled against these people especially today. But…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
Gene, could it be that you are preaching against the Book of John?
John
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 7 years, 7 months ago
Correct. Jesus was never NOT a son of God. That is another difference.
Although he was divine, he partook in our nature so we could partake in his nature. Now he is back in the glory he had with God before the cosmos and we can not only be like him, but with him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Boston, MA Area Non trinitarians For Bible Study in the forum Chatroom 7 years, 7 months ago
@t8 Where are you located? I love communing with the brethren but I can not sit and absorb things that are not from scripture.
From the utmost part of the earth, New Zealand as some other members here are. OF course being a public forum, there will be all kinds of opinions here, but it is often iron sharpens iron and you do learn through the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 7 years, 7 months ago
Yes I do as I believe all who are born of God are the sons of God.
Of course, as far as being a son, I was not the firstborn son as Jesus Christ is.
Further, I believe he was born son of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, died for our sins, and is back in the glory he had with God before the cosmos. I cannot claim any such thing. The…[Read more]
Proclaimer wrote a new post 7 years, 7 months ago
Always believe women? How about believe evidence!
As with any crime – the allegation must be considered – but the evidence determines any following legal actions.Proclaimer replied to the topic Boston, MA Area Non trinitarians For Bible Study in the forum Chatroom 7 years, 7 months ago
Good post Gene.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 7 months ago
If the mountain can be seen at any time then that disproves the globe. If it can be seen at certain times then that supports the FE.
You can’t get something from nothing. If it can be seen at any time then it can be seen – period. However, on a globe it could not be seen at any time. Plus, if it were just “conditions” that allowed for it to be s…
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