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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Dig4truth. ….Well then who was saved by Jesus at his berth., seening you believe he was “aleady” a savior at berth, please list just one person he ever had saved at berth, surely you can right? Notice how the angel said it, there is “born” a savior, thats a prophetic statement, looking to a futube event. If we say a royal couple has a son, an…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick, where did I say the new body was the seed. No the seed is within the old body, it is it’s life source, just as a grain of wheat or corn’s life source is the seed. It will never create a different kind of plant. Neither will the life source in us produce a different kind of body. The seed produces the same “kind” of body, but if it has…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick.. ..what Jodi is saying is right brother. We are all waiting for “the resurection, that will witness the ” REDEMPTION OF OUR “BODIES”. THE NEW BODIES WE RECIEVE AT THE RESURECTION. But those bodies the are from the same seed , but regenerated, just as a seed of grain, or wheat, or corn, the seed regenerates new exact same bodies they came f…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
To all….Unto each is given A “MEASURE” OF “FAITH”. many of those who began with little faith, ended up with great faith, Like Peter, Steven,.. We are told ” to grow in knowledge and Faith”
Rom 12:3…..For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick……JESUS SAID, John 6: 63….. “it is the Spirit that quickens; the flesh prophets nothing: the words I speak unto you,they are Spirit and are life”, that alone should clarify it for you, but he also said,
John 14:10……” believes you not that I am in the Father and the Father is “in” me?, the ‘WORDS’ that I Speak unto you, I speak not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..No word “IS” FLESH, even our words are not flesh, God is a Spirit, that is if you believe Jesus, the word who is God “came to be”, “IN” the flesh man Jesus, by the anointing he recieved at the Jordan. But the word itself “never” became flesh. No word can “BE” FLESH, BUT IT CAN EXIST “IN” FLESH.
God used Jesus’ body as a temple…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick. …..You would do much better to listening to what were saying, instead of trying to trash it. You really don’t full understand yet what you think you do brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Jodi……I was in the WWCG and attended the Feast of tabernacles, at lake Tahoe in California US. I was in my 30’s , that was over 46 years ago. Those feast days were wonderful time in my and my families life, my childern still speak of t h e wonderfully times we had, I wish we were all keeping them again, and according to Zachariah 14:1…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Jodi….good post, so clear, so exact, and most can’t even understand it here. Simply amazing. What this shows if God has sent unto a person a deluding spirit, no matter how clear it is put before them , they just can’t get it. Many live in confusion and are deluded, which brings to mind the scripture that says, “unless the LORD, builds the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..you say rubbish, but give no explanation, tell me this could God not have prevented any sin in humanity if he so chose to? Sin is a tool God allowed in his human creation for teaching us the difference between good and evil, sin was allowed if not designed by GOD for teaching us ALL, OR HAVEN’T YOU READ YOU SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT BY GO…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
T8…..you got it backwards, the man Jesus, was born a human being, not a messiah or anointed one, when he was about 32 years old he then was anointed, and became the messiah, anoint with the holy spirit, which came I to him, and that spirit lead him out into the wilderness to be tested m after that GOD WHO WAS THE ANOINTING SPIRIT, SENT HIM O…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
T8……no one is denying JESUS did not become those things, that were prophesied of him, but a prophesy is alway about the future, JESUS was prophecied to be those things, but it did not happen till it happened, yes Jesus was the “prophesied savior” the one who would take away the sins of the world, and to sit on the throne of his father king D…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..but that does not say it still will not be a physical body or house, but that it is built by GOD, muck like Adams body was built by God, and according to God he could have lived forever in that body, if it were a lower to eat of the tree of life, according to God. No scripture says it’s a different ” TYPE OR KIND” of body, who by the w…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Nick…..flesh and blood is not spirit, it not only can’t inherit anything, it, (flesh and blood) can even see the kingdom of God, remember what Jesus said, “for the kingdom of God comes without observation, “IT IS WITHIN YOU”, Get it?, flesh and blood are physical things, like a house, the kingdom of God is spiritually percieved. But to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 9 months ago
Truthcomber. ….thats called switch and bait, arguments, the truth is, Jesus simply said, ” I am telling you this day, you shall be with me in paradise.” Simple as that, no need for deceptive arguments by the sleight of men. Thats the whole problem here, many have human conceived thelogies that throws all kinds of different spins and meanings t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is baptism needed for salvation? 7 years, 9 months ago
Truthcomber. ….Jesus told the thief this, “I TELL YOU THIS DAY, YOU “SHALL” BE WITH ME IN PARADISE, he was speaking of another day, not that very day, because Jesus did not go to praise that day, he went to his grave that day, hardly what anyone would call paradise. If you study with the decieved you will become decieved also, let the sp…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Dig4truth. ….Father Abraham indeed did look forward to see the day of His seed Jesus the anointed man of God his prophesied seed, the messiah. He also looked for a city whose builder and maker was GOD. JESUS WAS THE PROPHESIED SEED THAT WOULD BE THE ONE TO BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD. Your are looking at what Jesus said like the blind Pharisies di…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Anthony……Jesus a king of kings, there were other human king of kings, high preists, lord of lords, but yo u say he was GOD , THAT IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. WHY,
Eph 4:6…..ONE GOD and Father of “ALL”, who is above “ALL” and through “ALL” and in you “ALL”.
Eph 4:13….Till we “ALL” come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Anthony……I don’t think I ever said he was and ordinary man, you have mistaken my words, he certanily was a unique “human being” highly glorified and exalted, even above his fellow humans. But then again, neither was Adam an ordinary man, nor Moses, nor Samson, nor Joshua, nor the seventy elders, nor King David, nor Solomon, nor our pre…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 9 months ago
Anthony. …..what a screwed up confusion you are under , false christianity has given you a good brain wash job,and you have taken it hook, line, and sinker brother.
Go to God and ask for him to reveal the truth to you, and perhaps he may, if you have true love for the truth Anothny. Otherwise he has sent unto you a deluding spirit 2 Ths2, a…[Read more]
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