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Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 17 2012,21:47) Quote Even false religion preach that , That is very true my brother, that is why a person must have the Holy Ghost.
MARK 13:22 † For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
MATTHEW 24:24 † For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The only reason it is not possible to deceive the elect is because they have the Spirit of God in them, not just with them. JOHN 14:17 So they will not deny the Word.
In the day of Noah, Noah preach to the people as he built an ark. He said it was going to rain and they laughed at him.
He finished the ark and went into it. Then GOD closed the doors and no one could reopen them. Seven days later, it started to rain.
Types — God shut the door, (just as He will when He removes His bride), seven days (the seven year covenant with Israel), the rain (Armageddon)THE DOOR IS CLOSING !!!!!!!!
God Bless
bro. Marlin
this also is used by false preachers to prove that they are the true pastorsso it does not prove you are one either
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 16 2012,06:13) Don't forget that people will always attack what they don't understand and are unwilling to know. I am not one who cannot learn something about God's word, but if I don't believe in what someone believes, I don't get offended and believe that I can justify myself by attacking them.
I get tired of people who attack others over the Word having never known that person or what they are about.
I have been saved for 39 years and have studied for all those years making sure I know what I am talking about. One time in 2000 I took about 5 and 1/2 months spending about 8 hours a day just listening to Alexander Scorby read the New Testament on cassette tapes so I can let the Spirit talk to me without any teachers, opinions, or anyones ideas.
I'm far from perfect or having all understanding, but what I know I can say I have a “full assurance of understanding and faith” according to the words of Paul.
If you don't know what I am talking about, try to understand before attacking what you don't know. You are showing your true nature when you do this.
Richtuner……….Well put, you are right, you can always tell who is of God and who is not by if they attack a persons Character or not. It's one thing to disagree with what a person says but quite another when you proceed to put that person down by attacking him or her personally.I to have studied God's word for many many years now and believe it is GOd the Father who give us the revelation of the Truth into our minds and that revelation of the truth is what Jessu said he would build the Church on Brother.
You have shown your true spiritual character brother, glad to see brothers and sister like you here.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene
Quote Even false religion preach that , That is very true my brother, that is why a person must have the Holy Ghost.
MARK 13:22 † For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
MATTHEW 24:24 † For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The only reason it is not possible to deceive the elect is because they have the Spirit of God in them, not just with them. JOHN 14:17 So they will not deny the Word.
In the day of Noah, Noah preach to the people as he built an ark. He said it was going to rain and they laughed at him.
He finished the ark and went into it. Then GOD closed the doors and no one could reopen them. Seven days later, it started to rain.
Types — God shut the door, (just as He will when He removes His bride), seven days (the seven year covenant with Israel), the rain (Armageddon)THE DOOR IS CLOSING !!!!!!!!
God Bless
bro. Marlinthis also is used by false preachers to prove that they are the true pastors
so it does not prove you are one either
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PierreVery true again my brother, I am sure that is what they said to Jesus too.
bro. Marlin
Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 19 2012,08:18) Quote Even false religion preach that , That is very true my brother, that is why a person must have the Holy Ghost.
MARK 13:22 † For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
MATTHEW 24:24 † For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
The only reason it is not possible to deceive the elect is because they have the Spirit of God in them, not just with them. JOHN 14:17 So they will not deny the Word.
In the day of Noah, Noah preach to the people as he built an ark. He said it was going to rain and they laughed at him.
He finished the ark and went into it. Then GOD closed the doors and no one could reopen them. Seven days later, it started to rain.
Types — God shut the door, (just as He will when He removes His bride), seven days (the seven year covenant with Israel), the rain (Armageddon)THE DOOR IS CLOSING !!!!!!!!
God Bless
bro. Marlinthis also is used by false preachers to prove that they are the true pastors
so it does not prove you are one either
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PierreVery true again my brother, I am sure that is what they said to Jesus too.
bro. Marlin
m1yes you are probably right ;but Christ ad the miracles what we do not have right
and Christ new the scriptures inside out ,right
and so make any pharesees shamefull in his own believe ,what do you have my friend beside the scriptures
it seams you have your own interpretation and understanding ,but is it 100% scriptural
as I can see it is not ,Brother Pierre,
Quote yes you are probably right ;but Christ ad the miracles what we do not have right Wrong,
the dead was raised up, the blind see, the deaf hear, the Holy Spirit discerns the thoughts, foretells things that's coming to pass, never failed it one time.Mark 16:16-18 says these signs SHALL follow them that believe.
and Jesus said
JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do;…..Quote
and Christ new the scriptures inside out ,right and so make any pharesees shamefull in his own believe ,This my brother is true, Jesus was Emanuel (GOD with US)
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what do you have my friend beside the scriptures
These signs SHALL follow them that BELIEVE.Quote
it seams you have your own interpretation and understanding ,but is it 100% scriptural as I can see it is not ,The Word of God comes to the PROPHET (SEER) and to my knowledge, my understanding lines up with the 7th Angel Messenger (Prophet).
John the Baptist sent some of his disciples to ask Jesus if He was the one.
LUKE 7:22 † Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.This happened again in this last day, yet you still don't believe, just like they didn't in that day.
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 20 2012,10:59) Brother Pierre, Quote yes you are probably right ;but Christ ad the miracles what we do not have right Wrong,
the dead was raised up, the blind see, the deaf hear, the Holy Spirit discerns the thoughts, foretells things that's coming to pass, never failed it one time.Mark 16:16-18 says these signs SHALL follow them that believe.
and Jesus said
JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do;…..Quote
and Christ new the scriptures inside out ,right and so make any pharesees shamefull in his own believe ,This my brother is true, Jesus was Emanuel (GOD with US)
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what do you have my friend beside the scriptures
These signs SHALL follow them that BELIEVE.Quote
it seams you have your own interpretation and understanding ,but is it 100% scriptural as I can see it is not ,The Word of God comes to the PROPHET (SEER) and to my knowledge, my understanding lines up with the 7th Angel Messenger (Prophet).
John the Baptist sent some of his disciples to ask Jesus if He was the one.
LUKE 7:22 † Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.This happened again in this last day, yet you still don't believe, just like they didn't in that day.
God Bless
bro. Marlin
M1Why you say I am wrong the first things I have called up was the miracles of Jesus,
And yes the apostles also did miracles ,but not as many (at the least it is not recorded )
It seems that many have their own prophet of choice ,but who his he
Or his he just ? That no one knows Each time that you quote ,and it is vague or not able to bring understanding in scriptures then it is false,
Quoting alegories ,is meaningless ,unless it is explained don't you agree
Quote Why you say I am wrong the first things I have called up was the miracles of Jesus, And yes the apostles also did miracles ,but not as many (at the least it is not recorded )
It seems that many have their own prophet of choice ,but who his he
Or his he just ? That no one knowsEach time that you quote ,and it is vague or not able to bring understanding in scriptures then it is false,
Quoting alegories ,is meaningless ,unless it is explained don't you agree
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PierreHi Brother Pierre,
I disagree with this statement, “Quoting alegories ,is meaningless ,unless it is explained don't you agree”
And here is why,
One day Jesus said to all those that were following Him,
JOHN 6:53 † Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.A cannibal and vampire is probably what they thought and most left Him that day, Jesus even ask the 12 if they were going to leave Me.
He didn't explain it to anyone. He told them and left it up to them.
I have done way more then that, I have spoke the truth, I have given websites and I have tried explained.
And I continue to explain, yet most would rather keep their doctrine then even look at the possibility that they might be wrong in that doctrine.God's children will come to the TRUTH and the rest are not His children.
JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
The greater works spoken of here by Jesus were done in the ministry of the seventh angel, a God sent prophet (seer). Thousands of people come to Christ in one meeting, Seven truck loads of crutches, wheelchairs and things were hauled away from the grounds from one prayer.
http://www.williambranhamhomepage.org/visitsa1.htm
Was it God or was it man?
Each person will have to decide for themselves and choose the path.God Bless
bro. Marlinm1
Quote I disagree with this statement, “Quoting alegories ,is meaningless ,unless it is explained don't you agree” And here is why,
you are still wrong ;to think that Christ did not explain it ;he did in many different way s but you were not listening
an allegory is a story that needs to be understood for it is said for some not to understand ,because of their inclination to other things ,
m1
Quote JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. The greater works spoken of here by Jesus were done in the ministry of the seventh angel, a God sent prophet (seer). Thousands of people come to Christ in one meeting, Seven truck loads of crutches, wheelchairs and things were hauled away from the grounds from one prayer.
I am not sharing your believe on this one ,see I do not belong to a church and have no intention to join a men made church ,the one OF CHRIST IS SUFFICIENT TO ME .
IT SEEMS THAT ALL THE MIRACLES THAT ARE DONE ARE DONE WERE NO ONE CAN CHECK THEM ,AND SCRIPTURES TELL US ABOUT DECEIT ,AND
scriptures tells us that even Satan will disguise him in an angel of light (truth)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 19 2012,01:55) Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 16 2012,06:13) Don't forget that people will always attack what they don't understand and are unwilling to know. I am not one who cannot learn something about God's word, but if I don't believe in what someone believes, I don't get offended and believe that I can justify myself by attacking them.
I get tired of people who attack others over the Word having never known that person or what they are about.
I have been saved for 39 years and have studied for all those years making sure I know what I am talking about. One time in 2000 I took about 5 and 1/2 months spending about 8 hours a day just listening to Alexander Scorby read the New Testament on cassette tapes so I can let the Spirit talk to me without any teachers, opinions, or anyones ideas.
I'm far from perfect or having all understanding, but what I know I can say I have a “full assurance of understanding and faith” according to the words of Paul.
If you don't know what I am talking about, try to understand before attacking what you don't know. You are showing your true nature when you do this.
Richtuner……….Well put, you are right, you can always tell who is of God and who is not by if they attack a persons Character or not. It's one thing to disagree with what a person says but quite another when you proceed to put that person down by attacking him or her personally.I to have studied God's word for many many years now and believe it is GOd the Father who give us the revelation of the Truth into our minds and that revelation of the truth is what Jessu said he would build the Church on Brother.
You have shown your true spiritual character brother, glad to see brothers and sister like you here.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene
GeneB.I agree,so you have made the same observation.
Critics use to come from someone that has nothing to show
for themselves.wakeup.
Quote JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. The greater works spoken of here by Jesus were done in the ministry of the seventh angel, a God sent prophet (seer). Thousands of people come to Christ in one meeting, Seven truck loads of crutches, wheelchairs and things were hauled away from the grounds from one prayer.
I am not sharing your believe on this one ,see I do not belong to a church and have no intention to join a men made church ,the one OF CHRIST IS SUFFICIENT TO ME .
IT SEEMS THAT ALL THE MIRACLES THAT ARE DONE ARE DONE WERE NO ONE CAN CHECK THEM ,AND SCRIPTURES TELL US ABOUT DECEIT ,AND
scriptures tells us that even Satan will disguise him in an angel of light (truth)Yes my brother there are counterfeits out there.
There are also counterfeit dollars, so does that mean we should not use the real ones.All the thousands and thousands of people healed, I guess they just all lied.
If you were in the TRUTH, then these signs would be following YOU. That is what Jesus said.So you my brother deny John 14:12?
† “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 † And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 † If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.”Do you disbelieve Mark 16:17-18?
“And these signs SHALL follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 † They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”How about John 15:16?
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.“John 16:23-24? † “And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
24 † Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.”Jesus said, satan can not cast out satan. He can not heal, he can not create.
MATTHEW 12:25 † And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 † And if satan cast out satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?So because satan can counterfeit a gift, should you not use the gift?
The Truth is if the Spirit of God dwells in a person, then the signs SHALL follow that believer. “THUS SAITH THE LORD”
God Bless
bro. MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 23 2012,13:24) Quote JOHN 14:12 † Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. The greater works spoken of here by Jesus were done in the ministry of the seventh angel, a God sent prophet (seer). Thousands of people come to Christ in one meeting, Seven truck loads of crutches, wheelchairs and things were hauled away from the grounds from one prayer.
I am not sharing your believe on this one ,see I do not belong to a church and have no intention to join a men made church ,the one OF CHRIST IS SUFFICIENT TO ME .
IT SEEMS THAT ALL THE MIRACLES THAT ARE DONE ARE DONE WERE NO ONE CAN CHECK THEM ,AND SCRIPTURES TELL US ABOUT DECEIT ,AND
scriptures tells us that even Satan will disguise him in an angel of light (truth)Yes my brother there are counterfeits out there.
There are also counterfeit dollars, so does that mean we should not use the real ones.All the thousands and thousands of people healed, I guess they just all lied.
If you were in the TRUTH, then these signs would be following YOU. That is what Jesus said.So you my brother deny John 14:12?
† “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that BELIEVETH on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 † And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 † If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.”Do you disbelieve Mark 16:17-18?
“And these signs SHALL follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 † They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”How about John 15:16?
“Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.“John 16:23-24? † “And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
24 † Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.”Jesus said, satan can not cast out satan. He can not heal, he can not create.
MATTHEW 12:25 † And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
26 † And if satan cast out satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?So because satan can counterfeit a gift, should you not use the gift?
The Truth is if the Spirit of God dwells in a person, then the signs SHALL follow that believer. “THUS SAITH THE LORD”
God Bless
bro. Marlin
M1SO YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN ;Jn 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message,
MT 24:23 “ Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘ There He is,’ do not believe him.
MT 24:26 “So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out, or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them.
MT 27:42 “ He saved others; He cannot save Himself. He is the King of Israel; let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe in Him.
MK 1:15 and saying, “ The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”LK 8:12 “Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved
or are you part of those ;
JN 4:48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you simply will not believe.”Jn 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
Christ did not mention that beside the 12 apostles and the first fruits that miracles will be done ,
2CO 12:12 The signs of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs and wonders and miracles.
1CO 12:10 and to another the effecting of miracles, and to another prophecy, and to another the distinguishing of spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, and to another the interpretation of tongues.
HEB 2:4 God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various miracles and by gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.
miracles are not the leading act to the true faith,
RO 8:35 Who will separate us from the love of Christ? Will tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
RO 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.RO 12:9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil; cling to what is good.
1CO 16:22 If anyone does not love the Lord, he is to be accursed. Maranatha.
1Co 13:6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
1Co 13:7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
1Co 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.
1Co 13:9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part,
1Co 13:10 but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
1Co 14:2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit.
1Co 14:3 But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.
1Co 14:4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.
1Co 14:5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.
1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?now were does it say that miracles are to be a leading factor to bring people to the truth
it does not .miracles are the worse part because it give wonders but not faith in truth or God and the one he send ,it mainly distract from the truth of God ,Christ came with wonders because it was prophecy that he would do such a things ,and yet they did not believe ,only eleven disciples receive from Christ the order to preach even so he send at one time 70 out to do so the 11 were the reason
for establishing his church and the way to save in his name the world ,we are not saved by miracles but by faith in the message of the gospel of the only begotten son of God,
SHOW ME ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT IS RESURRECTED OR HEALED AND NEVER DIE OR GET SICK AGAIN ???THERE IS NONE,
IF YOU TRULY BENEFIT FROM AN MIRACLE THEN THE GLORY SHOULD BE GOING TO GOD NOT TO THE MEN THROUGH WHOM GOD MADE THE MIRACLE ,AND WILL MAKE YOU IN DEBT TO GOD .
DO NOT GET DECEIVE BY YOUR EYES ,LET THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART AND THE LOVE FOR GOD AND HIS SON BE THE LEADING PART OF YOUR FAITH ,
Quote now were does it say that miracles are to be a leading factor to bring people to the truth it does not .miracles are the worse part because it give wonders but not faith in truth or God and the one he send ,it mainly distract from the truth of God ,Christ came with wonders because it was prophecy that he would do such a things ,and yet they did not believe ,only eleven disciples receive from Christ the order to preach even so he send at one time 70 out to do so the 11 were the reason for establishing his church and the way to save in his name the world ,
we are not saved by miracles but by faith in the message of the gospel of the only begotten son of God,
SHOW ME ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT IS RESURRECTED OR HEALED AND NEVER DIE OR GET SICK AGAIN ???THERE IS NONE,
IF YOU TRULY BENEFIT FROM AN MIRACLE THEN THE GLORY SHOULD BE GOING TO GOD NOT TO THE MEN THROUGH WHOM GOD MADE THE MIRACLE ,AND WILL MAKE YOU IN DEBT TO GOD .
DO NOT GET DECEIVE BY YOUR EYES ,LET THE TRUTH IN YOUR HEART AND THE LOVE FOR GOD AND HIS SON BE THE LEADING PART OF YOUR FAITH ,
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PierreMy dear brother, this above is your TRUE BELIEF and I tell you this, it is CONTRARY to the SCRIPTURE.
1) We are not saved by a message at all, we are saved by the FINISHED WORK of GOD.
2) You say, “miracles are the worse part” , you call what God does an unholy thing. Shame on you.
Signs and wonders shall always follow the true church.The purpose of the signs and wonders are to draw people to the TRUE WORD. It in NO WAY DISTRACTS FROM the WORD. All Word should be tested by the written Word, with HOLY GHOST understanding.
3)You say, “only eleven disciples receive from Christ the order to preach even so he send at one time 70 out to do so the 11 were the reason for establishing his church and the way to save in his name the world.”
This is not TRUE, even according to JESUS. These Signs SHALL follow all those that believe.
It is way to late to believe such a LIE. I know for a fact that it is a LIE and that is “THUS SAITH THE LORD”I can show you where the Holy Ghost was given to all 120 of those in the upper ROOM and that SAME HOLY GHOST is for TODAY.
YOU show me the SCRIPTURE that did away with the BAPTISM of the HOLY GHOST.
4) you say, “SHOW ME ONE SINGLE PERSON THAT IS RESURRECTED OR HEALED AND NEVER DIE OR GET SICK AGAIN ???THERE IS NONE,”
I totally Agree and have never said otherwise.
But signs and wonders WILL FOLLOW a HOLY GHOST filled person “THUS SAITH THE LORD”Jesus brought signs and wonders to the church and gave them to His disciples. Paul taught us that was the true message of the church. Not with YOUR enticing WORDS, but with POWER and DEMONSTRATION of the HOLY GHOST. And this message shall go into all the world.
Quote I COR 2:4 † And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
SHOW ME ONE scripture, where that was taken away from the TRUE Church.By your man made DOCTRINE, you make the WORD of GOD of no EFFECT. (NO POWER), just MANS words. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER RELIGION.
God Bless
bro. Marlinm1
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1) We are not saved by a message at all, we are saved by the FINISHED WORK of GOD.show me scriptures to support your words,please
m1
Quote 2) You say, “miracles are the worse part” , you call what God does an unholy thing. Shame on you.
Signs and wonders shall always follow the true church.this is absolutly not what i said ,show me if i have said this
m1
Quote 3)You say, “only eleven disciples receive from Christ the order to preach even so he send at one time 70 out to do so the 11 were the reason for establishing his church and the way to save in his name the world.”
This is not TRUE, even according to JESUS. These Signs SHALL follow all those that believe.
It is way to late to believe such a LIE. I know for a fact that it is a LIE and that is “THUS SAITH THE LORD”Quote I can show you where the Holy Ghost was given to all 120 of those in the upper ROOM and that SAME HOLY GHOST is for TODAY. I can do that ;but tell me how many miracles did they do ;
show me the scriptures okanswer me this question ;did the miracles of Christ made all people that sew them follow him and believe in him
m1
Quote SHOW ME ONE scripture, where that was taken away from the TRUE Church. can you show me anyone that has recieved his knowledge directly from one of the apostles
or that the hands were imposed on him to receive the holy spirit now having received the holy spirit does not make you qualified for miracles right
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I COR 2:4 † And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:SHOW ME ONE scripture, where that was taken away from the TRUE Church.
were is the true church
have you an name m1
Quote By your man made DOCTRINE, you make the WORD of GOD of no EFFECT. (NO POWER), just MANS words. JUST LIKE ANY OTHER RELIGION. those words will come to be against you,all what i have said is found in scriptures
m1
Quote I totally Agree and have never said otherwise.
But signs and wonders WILL FOLLOW a HOLY GHOST filled person “THUS SAITH THE LORD”tell me ;how can a person receive the holy spirit
and what his the holy spirit Quote 2) You say, “miracles are the worse part” , you call what God does an unholy thing. Shame on you.
Signs and wonders shall always follow the true church.this is absolutly not what i said ,show me if i have said this
Brother Pierre,
It may not have been what you meant, but it was what you just said,
“miracles are the worse part because it give wonders”Go and reread your own writing.
God Bless
bro. Marlin
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