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  • #361490
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2013,05:55)
    THRUT OF GOD IS ONLY ONE WAY ;FROM GOD TO MEN ,

    IN NO WAY CAN IT BE FROM MEN TO GOD ;MEN ARE ONLY THE BENEFICIARY OF GOD'S PLAN AND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITION


    T.

    Where did you get that idea?
    Knowledge from men to God??
    Of course all knowledge comes from God to men.
    Even pagans get their knowledge from their Gods.

    Is this another bla bla of yours?

    wakeup.

    #361538
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 08 2013,15:01)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2013,05:55)
    THRUT OF GOD IS ONLY ONE WAY ;FROM GOD TO MEN ,

    IN NO WAY CAN IT BE FROM MEN TO GOD ;MEN ARE ONLY THE BENEFICIARY OF GOD'S PLAN AND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITION


    T.

    Where did you get that idea?
    Knowledge from men to God??
    Of course all knowledge comes from God to men.
    Even pagans get their knowledge from their Gods.

    Is this another bla bla of yours?

    wakeup.


    w

    my comment was to remained you that YOUR INTERPRETATION HIS TRULLY YOU TELLING GOD WHAT HE SHOULD SAY OR WHAT HE DID SAY ;

    SO UNLESS YOU HUMBLE YOURSELF BY ONLY FOLLOWING THE SCRIPTURES IN THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH ,YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ;

    #362374
    terraricca
    Participant

    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it

    #362400
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2013,17:19)
    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it


    terricca……….So then, having blabbed all that out, do you. believe this. 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.

    YES or NO…..Please.

    Peace and love……………………………gene.

    #362405
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 21 2013,22:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2013,17:19)
    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it


    terricca……….So then, having blabbed all that out, do you. believe this. 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.

    YES or NO…..Please.

    Peace and love……………………………gene.


    gene

    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ????

    YOU NEVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS NOW

    #362464
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 22 2013,03:50)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 21 2013,22:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2013,17:19)
    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it


    terricca……….So then, having blabbed all that out, do you. believe this. 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.

    YES or NO…..Please.

    Peace and love……………………………gene.


    gene

    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ????

    YOU NEVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS NOW


    T.

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    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ?

    What a question.
    God is not the God of false gods,if that is your question directed to.
    And God is not the God of non believers.
    He is the God of all that belongs to him only.

    We; all created in the image of God are gods.
    But non of us is to be worshipped as God.

    wakeup.

    #362481
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,18:01)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 22 2013,03:50)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 21 2013,22:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2013,17:19)
    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it


    terricca……….So then, having blabbed all that out, do you. believe this. 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.

    YES or NO…..Please.

    Peace and love……………………………gene.


    gene

    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ????

    YOU NEVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS NOW


    T.

    Quote
    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ?

    What a question.
    God is not the God of false gods,if that is your question directed to.
    And God is not the God of non believers.
    He is the God of all that belongs to him only.

    We; all created in the image of God are gods.
    But non of us is to be worshipped as God.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    God is not the God of false gods,if that is your question directed to.
    And God is not the God of non believers.
    He is the God of all that belongs to him only.

    ARE YOU SO SURE OF WHAT YOU SAY ???

    Ps 15:2 He whose walk is blameless
    and who does what is righteous,
    who speaks the truth from his heart
    Ps 15:3 and has no slander on his tongue,
    who does his neighbor no wrong
    and casts no slur on his fellowman,
    Ps 15:4 who despises a vile man
    but honors those who fear the LORD,
    who keeps his oath
    even when it hurts,
    He who does these things
    will never be shaken.

    Ps 14:2 The LORD looks down from heaven
    on the sons of men
    to see if there are any who understand,
    any who seek God.
    Ps 14:3 All have turned aside,
    they have together become corrupt;
    there is no one who does good,
    not even one.

    Ps 9:10 Those who know your name will trust in you,
    for you, LORD, have never forsaken those who seek you.

    Ps 14:4 Will evildoers never learn—

    Ps 11:5 The LORD examines the righteous,
    but the wicked and those who love violence
    his soul hates.

    in all those scriptures i quote you. you can understand that God his the God of all men ,but not all men have learned to fear him that gives life,

    #362490
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 23 2013,06:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 22 2013,18:01)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 22 2013,03:50)

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 21 2013,22:29)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 21 2013,17:19)
    I really cannot understand some believers who says that he believe in the written word of God and yet he believe what is not found in scriptures or defended to do ,or even think that way,and claim to be solid believers,how can that be in truth ???

    This is impossible to be or do, Christ did not make us a mixe believers either we believe him as he preached or not ,only one true outcome, think about it


    terricca……….So then, having blabbed all that out, do you. believe this. 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idol in the world and that there is “NO” GOD, but “ONE”.

    YES or NO…..Please.

    Peace and love……………………………gene.


    gene

    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ????

    YOU NEVER ANSWERED THIS QUESTION FOR YEARS NOW


    T.

    Quote
    tell me WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH GOD JEHOVAH IS GOD OVER ?

    What a question.
    God is not the God of false gods,if that is your question directed to.
    And God is not the God of non believers.
    He is the God of all that belongs to him only.

    We; all created in the image of God are gods.
    But non of us is to be worshipped as God.

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    God is not the God of false gods,if that is your question directed to.
    And God is not the God of non believers.
    He is the God of all that belongs to him only.

    ARE YOU SO SURE OF WHAT YOU SAY ???

    Ps 15:2 He whose walk is blameless
    and who does what is righteous,
    who speaks the truth from his heart
    Ps 15:3 and has no slander on his tongue,
    who does his neighbor no wrong
    and casts no slur on his fellowman,
    Ps 15:4 who despises a vile man
    but honors those who fear the LORD,
    who keeps his oath
    even when it hurts,
    He who does these things
    will never be shaken.

    Ps 14:2 The LORD looks down from heaven
    on the sons of men
    to see if there are any who understand,
    any who seek God.
    Ps 14:3 All have turned aside,
    they have together become corrupt;
    there is no one who does good,
    not even one.

    Ps 9:10 Those who know your name will trust in you,
    for you, LORD, have never forsaken those who seek you.

    Ps 14:4 Will evildoers never learn—

    Ps 11:5 The LORD examines the righteous,
    but the wicked and those who love violence
    his soul hates.

    in all those scriptures i quote you. you can understand that God his the God of all men ,but not all men have learned to fear him that gives life,


    T.

    Is God also the God of Judas Iscariot?
    Is God also the God of blasphemers?
    Is God also the God of satan's children?

    John 8:44 ***Ye are of your father the devil***,
    and ***the lusts of your father*** ye will do.
    He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Answer please?

    wakeup.

    #362493
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Quote
    Is God also the God of Judas Iscariot?
    Is God also the God of blasphemers?
    Is God also the God of satan's children?

    John 8:44 ***Ye are of your father the devil***,
    and ***the lusts of your father*** ye will do.
    He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Answer please?

    DT 10:17 “ For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
    PS 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods,
    For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
    DA 2:47 The king answered Daniel and said, “Surely your God is a God of gods and a Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, since you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
    DA 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done.

    MY QUESTION WAS “WHO ARE THE GODS ;OVER WHICH JEHOVAH HIS GOD OVER ???

    AND DON'T CHANGE THE TOPIC ; JUST ANSWER IT

    #362509
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 23 2013,13:12)
    W

    Quote
    Is God also the God of Judas Iscariot?
    Is God also the God of blasphemers?
    Is God also the God of satan's children?

    John 8:44   ***Ye are of your father the devil***,
              and ***the lusts of your father*** ye will do.
    He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Answer please?

    DT 10:17 “ For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
    PS 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods,
    For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
    DA 2:47 The king answered Daniel and said, “Surely your God is a God of gods and a Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, since you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
    DA 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done.

    MY QUESTION WAS “WHO ARE THE GODS ;OVER WHICH  JEHOVAH HIS GOD OVER ???

    AND DON'T CHANGE THE TOPIC ; JUST ANSWER IT


    T.

    You should not compare the true God, to gods that are not god. There are no gods in the eyes of Jehovah.
    He alone is God.
    Men created gods are dead gods;they have no life in them.

    Do you see other gods?
    I dont.

    wakeup.

    #362516
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,14:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 23 2013,13:12)
    W

    Quote
    Is God also the God of Judas Iscariot?
    Is God also the God of blasphemers?
    Is God also the God of satan's children?

    John 8:44   ***Ye are of your father the devil***,
              and ***the lusts of your father*** ye will do.
    He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Answer please?

    DT 10:17 “ For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
    PS 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods,
    For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
    DA 2:47 The king answered Daniel and said, “Surely your God is a God of gods and a Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, since you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
    DA 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done.

    MY QUESTION WAS “WHO ARE THE GODS ;OVER WHICH  JEHOVAH HIS GOD OVER ???

    AND DON'T CHANGE THE TOPIC ; JUST ANSWER IT


    T.

    You should not compare the true God, to gods that are not god. There are no gods in the eyes of Jehovah.
    He alone is God.
    Men created gods are dead gods;they have no life in them.

    Do you see other gods?
    I dont.

    wakeup.


    W

    SO THOSE SCRIPTURES I QUOTED YOU ARE LIES ???

    Dt 10:16 Circumcise your hearts, therefore, and do not be stiff-necked any longer.
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.
    Dt 10:18 He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the alien, giving him food and clothing.
    Dt 10:19 And you are to love those who are aliens, for you yourselves were aliens in Egypt.
    Dt 10:20 Fear the LORD your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name.

    ARE YOU NOT TRYING TO DECEIVE ME AND OTHER HERE ??? WITH YOUR MEN VIEWS

    #362521
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.

    #362525
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.

    #362526
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,00:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.


    K

    yes this is only part of it ;god = mighty ones

    #362532
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,05:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.


    Kerwin…….I believe that scripture is said in a “POSSESSIVES” Sense. because we are all God's children in a Creative sense we all have our origin from Him. Kerwin also remember all scriptures must line with all the other scriptures that will produce the Truth of them, they must all conform on any given subject.

    God the Father said there are no other God , said he looked for one and found none. He also said there is NO God but ME.

    Jesus also plainly said in prayer to Him, Thou are the “ONLY” TRUE GOD. That statement alone means all other, “so-Called ” Gods, Have to be “FALSE” GOD'S.

    It say also in 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idols in the world, and that there is “NO” GOD, but ONE.

    There is a “TRUE” GOD and there are many “FALSE” GOD'S, conjured up, by the minds of carnal men. A Key is to understand what the word GOD Means, it derives it's original meaning from a Hebrew Pictorial language. It was drawn as a OX Head (symbolizing power)  with a SHEPPARD'S STAFF  (symbolizing what you trust in and lean on for guidance and support).  You cannot use that word GOD without “BOTH” meanings of these  “TWO” symbols  being applied.

    There is ONLY ONE BEING IN EXISTENCE, that it can be TRULY applied to, all others false Gods even if a person trusts in them, as example Money or some Idol , or some Leader, some magic, or Church, or Pope, or even Jesus for that matter.

    Remember “ALL” Scripture has to fit, on who and what, is a GOD. And if you correctly put them together they will all point to “ONLY”  “ONE”, TRUE GOD> IMO

    peace and love to you and your Kerwin……………………..gene

    #362533
    kerwin
    Participant

    Gene,

    The children of the one true god are gods just as the children of a human are human.

    All it states is he “called” them gods, children of the most high, and if your read the first five books of the bible you will find that he did call the children of Israel the his children.

    #362537
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,05:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.


    Kerwin.

    Agree: we are gods the children of the most high.
    And none is to be worshipped as a gods.

    wakeup.

    #362541
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 24 2013,04:46)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,05:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.


    Kerwin.

    Agree: we are gods the children of the most high.
    And none is to be worshipped as a gods.

    wakeup.


    w

    we should never render our worship to any other than Jehovah God the only almighty and creator of all things ,

    their are many gods = mighty one ;powerful men or angels

    #362545
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2013,06:49)

    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 24 2013,05:26)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 23 2013,22:45)
    T.

    Quote
    Dt 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

    You can read but not understand.
    Jehovah God does not consider those gods and lords;
    true gods and lords.
    But people do consider them gods and lords.
    The fact is;there is one true real God and one true real
    Lord.
    I alone am God;beside me **there is no** god.

    wakeup.


    Wakeup,

    He calls them gods and children of the most high but they are not to be worshiped.

    Psalm 82:6
    Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    6 I have said, Ye are gods;
    and all of you are children of the most High.


    Kerwin…….I believe that scripture is said in a “POSSESSIVES” Sense. because we are all God's children in a Creative sense we all have our origin from Him. Kerwin also remember all scriptures must line with all the other scriptures that will produce the Truth of them, they must all conform on any given subject.

    God the Father said there are no other God , said he looked for one and found none. He also said there is NO God but ME.

    Jesus also plainly said in prayer to Him, Thou are the “ONLY” TRUE GOD. That statement alone means all other, “so-Called ” Gods, Have to be “FALSE” GOD'S.

    It say also in 1 Cor 8:4…> we know that there is no idols in the world, and that there is “NO” GOD, but ONE.

    There is a “TRUE” GOD and there are many “FALSE” GOD'S, conjured up, by the minds of carnal men. A Key is to understand what the word GOD Means, it derives it's original meaning from a Hebrew Pictorial language. It was drawn as a OX Head (symbolizing power)  with a SHEPPARD'S STAFF  (symbolizing what you trust in and lean on for guidance and support).  You cannot use that word GOD without “BOTH” meanings of these  “TWO” symbols  being applied.

    There is ONLY ONE BEING IN EXISTENCE, that it can be TRULY applied to, all others false Gods even if a person trusts in them, as example Money or some Idol , or some Leader, some magic, or Church, or Pope, or even Jesus for that matter.

    Remember “ALL” Scripture has to fit, on who and what, is a GOD. And if you correctly put them together they will all point to “ONLY”  “ONE”, TRUE GOD> IMO

    peace and love to you and your Kerwin……………………..gene


    Well explained Gene B.
    We worship one God only,and *HIS WORD*
    Which was made flesh,and now sitting next to his Father
    in heaven. God and his own *WORD* side by side.
    Still confusing to the majority.
    Other gods are not to be worshipped for they are not worthy.

    wakeup.

    #362553
    terraricca
    Participant

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