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  • #327032
    terraricca
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    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 08 2013,09:32)

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    so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it ??? how then would you know were to go wen I am gone ???

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    Pierre

    Sorry my Brother Pierre,  we are not talking about your directions, we are speaking of the tree of LIFE, (WORD).

    satan is the tree of knowledge.  For it is a mixed tree (GOOD and EVIL), so you will get some truth and some lies. satan's lies will sound really good to the mind.

    God is the tree of LIFE and God speaks to the heart.  He only speaks truth and it will only be recognized by the heart.  

    We are told to live by FAITH, not knowledge.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    sorry but you do not understand what I say ,you like so much to teach others that you can not see what others are saying ,

    #327041
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,14:58)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 08 2013,09:32)

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    so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it ??? how then would you know were to go wen I am gone ???

    ————–
    Pierre

    Sorry my Brother Pierre,  we are not talking about your directions, we are speaking of the tree of LIFE, (WORD).

    satan is the tree of knowledge.  For it is a mixed tree (GOOD and EVIL), so you will get some truth and some lies. satan's lies will sound really good to the mind.

    God is the tree of LIFE and God speaks to the heart.  He only speaks truth and it will only be recognized by the heart.  

    We are told to live by FAITH, not knowledge.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    sorry but you do not understand what I say ,you like so much to teach others that you can not see what others are saying ,


    We need your explanation brother terra.
    Put forward your defence.
    Have your defence with you at all times.

    wakeup.

    #327043
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,12:26)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,14:58)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 08 2013,09:32)

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    so if I give you directions to go some were ,your mind is not in it ??? how then would you know were to go wen I am gone ???

    ————–
    Pierre

    Sorry my Brother Pierre,  we are not talking about your directions, we are speaking of the tree of LIFE, (WORD).

    satan is the tree of knowledge.  For it is a mixed tree (GOOD and EVIL), so you will get some truth and some lies. satan's lies will sound really good to the mind.

    God is the tree of LIFE and God speaks to the heart.  He only speaks truth and it will only be recognized by the heart.  

    We are told to live by FAITH, not knowledge.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    sorry but you do not understand what I say ,you like so much to teach others that you can not see what others are saying ,


    We need your explanation brother terra.
    Put forward your defence.
    Have your defence with you at all times.

    wakeup.


    sins wen is understanding a defense ???

    #327072
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Terra.

    Ok.

    wakeup.

    #327076
    GeneBalthrop
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    T0 All…………> ! cor 13:2…..> And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and “ALL KNOWLEDE”; and though I have “ALL FAITH”, so that I could remove Mountains, and have not Charity or “love”, I am “nothing”.

    All things boiles down to Love and Hate, what you Love you will hang on to, what you hat you will reject.

    So learn to Love what good and hate whats evil
    Let us Love the LORD OUR GOD with all of our Soul , Strength and might, and also LOVE ONE ANOTHER> If we can do this we will fulfill the the “Royal Law”

    peace and love to you all…………………………gene

    #327084
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2013,21:09)
    T0 All…………> ! cor 13:2…..> And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and “ALL KNOWLEDE”; and though I have “ALL FAITH”, so that I could remove Mountains, and have not Charity or “love”, I am “nothing”.

    All things boiles down to Love and Hate, what you Love you will hang on to, what you hat you will reject.  

    So learn to Love what  good and hate whats evil
    Let us Love the LORD OUR GOD with all of our Soul , Strength and might, and also LOVE ONE ANOTHER> If we can do this we will fulfill the the “Royal Law”

    peace and love to you all…………………………gene


    gene

    that his not the explanation of “LOVE””

    and charity does not equal “LOVE”

    #327088
    Marlin1
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    and charity does not equal “LOVE”

    My Brother,

    The word Charity in the King James is “Agape”
    GREEK LEXICON — STRONG'S NUMBER 26
     26  »      agape    {ag-ah'-pay}    ajgavph    from 25; TDNT — 1:21,5; n f

    AV  — love (86)
        — charity (27)
        — dear (1)
        — charitably + 2596 (1)
        — feast of charity (1) [116]
    1) brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence
    2) love feasts

    So yes my brother as used by Paul in Corinthians, it does mean Love.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #327091
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,03:40)

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    and charity does not equal “LOVE”

    My Brother,

    The word Charity in the King James is “Agape”
    GREEK LEXICON — STRONG'S NUMBER 26
     26  »      agape    {ag-ah'-pay}    ajgavph    from 25; TDNT — 1:21,5; n f

    AV  — love (86)
        — charity (27)
        — dear (1)
        — charitably + 2596 (1)
        — feast of charity (1) [116]
    1) brotherly love, affection, good will, love, benevolence
    2) love feasts

    So yes my brother as used by Paul in Corinthians, it does mean Love.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    no it does not mean “LOVE”” it is however one part of it ,

    and this is not what I am after ;

    I am looking if anyone know the ROYAL RULE ??? LOVE his ???

    #327094
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    no it does not mean “LOVE”” it is however one part of it ,

    and this is not what I am after ;

    I am looking if anyone know the ROYAL RULE ??? LOVE his ???

    ————–
    Pierre

    My Brother,

    Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using.

    Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #327095
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,05:05)

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    no it does not mean “LOVE”” it is however one part of it ,

    and this is not what I am after ;

    I am looking if anyone know the ROYAL RULE ??? LOVE his ???

    ————–
    Pierre

    My Brother,

    Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using.

    Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    could you show me that charity is LOVE and not part of it ???or one aspect of it

    #327103
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    My Brother,

    Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using.

    Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    m1

    could you show me that charity is LOVE and not part of it ???or one aspect of it

    Brother Pierre,

    As I told you above, the word used here is “AGAPE”.   That is the Word that Paul used and the King James translated it to “Charity”

    That is the same word that John used as GOD'S OWN LOVE.
    I JOHN 4:7 † Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  8 † He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

    If you disagree with this, please show why.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #327108
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,05:55)

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    My Brother,

    Agape is God's type of Love.  It is Love without regards of return.  It is the Word that Paul was using.

    Can you show what scripture you are using to say that Charity does NOT mean love?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    m1

    could you show me that charity is LOVE and not part of it ???or one aspect of it

    Brother Pierre,

    As I told you above, the word used here is “AGAPE”.   That is the Word that Paul used and the King James translated it to “Charity”

    That is the same word that John used as GOD'S OWN LOVE.
    I JOHN 4:7 † Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.  8 † He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

    If you disagree with this, please show why.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    I have ask what is LOVE ?

    not who practice it or should practice it ,or ,,,but sins Paul call it the ROYAL LAW to remain forever so what is it ???

    I know that the word AGAPE means LOVE but it does not say what it is “scriptures are saying that GOD HIS LOVE but for us what is it mean ???

    and what type is AGAPE ???

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    AGAPE It is Love without regards of return.

    how do you see this in scriptures ??? because according to my understanding God is regarding to receive a return to the LOVE he gives to all,

    #327111
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    AGAPE It is Love without regards of return.

    how do you see this in scriptures ??? because according to my understanding God is regarding to receive a return to the LOVE he gives to all,

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    Pierre

    So Brother, are you saying that we are saved by WORKS?

    bro. Marlin

    #327112
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,06:57)

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    AGAPE It is Love without regards of return.

    how do you see this in scriptures ??? because according to my understanding God is regarding to receive a return to the LOVE he gives to all,

    ————–
    Pierre

    So Brother, are you saying that we are saved by WORKS?

    bro. Marlin


    m1

    according to the LAW what are the works of men ???

    #327122
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    according to the LAW what are the works of men ???

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    Pierre

    Brother,
    To live by LAW is DEATH !!!!!

    Do you live by LAW?

    bro. Marlin

    #327123
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,09:35)

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    according to the LAW what are the works of men ???

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    Pierre

    Brother,
    To live by LAW is DEATH !!!!!

    Do you live by LAW?

    bro. Marlin


    m1

    ok,I will tell you ; according to the law any work that a men does for HIMSELF is consider WORK  got it ???

    now work done out of LOVE is NOT considered as works ,

    BECAUSE THEY ARE DONE FOR OTHERS ,DO YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT “AGAPE ” MEANS

    AND WHAT THE “ROYAL LAW ” OF LOVE HIS ??? IT IS CALLED ALSO “DEEDS””

    #327126
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    ok,I will tell you ; according to the law any work that a men does for HIMSELF is consider WORK  got it ???

    now work done out of LOVE is NOT considered as works ,

    BECAUSE THEY ARE DONE FOR OTHERS ,DO YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT “AGAPE ” MEANS

    AND WHAT THE “ROYAL LAW ” OF LOVE HIS ??? IT IS CALLED ALSO “DEEDS””

    Edited by terraricca on Jan. 09 2013,15:30

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    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    The Definition: Agape is selfless, sacrificial, unconditional love  

    which could go beyond GOOD DEEDS.

    This seems more of a type of “Philia” love.  
    The Definition: Philia means close friendship or brotherly love in Greek.

    Thanks
    bro. Marlin

    #327170
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Jan. 09 2013,11:08)

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    ok,I will tell you ; according to the law any work that a men does for HIMSELF is consider WORK  got it ???

    now work done out of LOVE is NOT considered as works ,

    BECAUSE THEY ARE DONE FOR OTHERS ,DO YOU START TO UNDERSTAND WHAT “AGAPE ” MEANS

    AND WHAT THE “ROYAL LAW ” OF LOVE HIS ??? IT IS CALLED ALSO “DEEDS””

    Edited by terraricca on Jan. 09 2013,15:30

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    The Definition: Agape is selfless, sacrificial, unconditional love  

    which could go beyond GOOD DEEDS.

    This seems more of a type of “Philia” love.  
    The Definition: Philia means close friendship or brotherly love in Greek.

    Thanks
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    is AGAPE the love you are cultivating ???

    and NO I am not talking about the PHILIA love or any other

    I believe their are some 7 or so different ones in Greek

    #327179
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To All………….Simply put LOVE is What you Hold on to , It is the opposite of Hate , God so Loved the World he gave his only begotten son.

    What you Hate you will reject, What you love you will hold on to. that is the (SIMPLEST) description of the word love.

    It was James not Paul who said this Jam 2:8 ..> if you fulfill the royal law according to the Scriptures, ” thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself” you do well.

    I can't understand why there is a problem understanding what Love is?

    Rom 8:39…> Nor height, nor depth nor any other creature, shall be able to “separate” us from the “LOVE” of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Did you notice the word Separate there, as i said Love holds on to, while Hate rejects and discards .

    That is the simplest, meaning of what Love is IMO

    peace and love you all………………………..gene

    #327209
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Nice Brother Gene,

    1 Cor 13:4-8
    Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails……..

    This is Agape (God's Love)
    This is not MAN'S type of Love as most have, this is GOD'S own LOVE in man.

    And without it.
    I COR 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not Love, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not Love, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not Love, it profiteth me nothing.

    This is a man without God's Love (Agape), He may still be nice and he may still love his friends and neighbors with man's TYPE of love.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

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