The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Dig4,

    Jesus is Lord of all.

    ’The word which He sent to the sons of Israel, preaching peace through Jesus Christ( he is lord of all)-

    Acts 10.36

    Jesus was made both Lord and Christ.

    ‘Therefore Let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ-

    this Jesus whom you crucified.’

    Acts 2.36

    Do homage to the Son, lest he become angry, and you perish in the way.

    ps 2.12

    A man anointed and appointed by God.

    #835103
     t8 
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    Two opposing opinions being argued here that are both wrong when scripture is used as the test.

    @dig4truth you seem to disagree with this:
    “And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”

    You see Dig, this truth is eternal life, so it needs to be respected. The Father is the only true God and this only true God sent another, namely his son.

    @nickhassan, you seem to disagree with this:
    Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man,

    You see Nick, many deny the son of God in their beliefs. Jesus is not God and he is not just a man who did not exist before being born as a man. His origin is ancient. He came from God thus his nature was divine. He emptied himself, came in the flesh, and now he is in the glory he had with God before the cosmos.

    So he is between God and man and through him he calls all sons of God. Many are those who deny this and pride in one’s own understanding is one of the reasons some do not believe in the sonship of Jesus.

    #835104
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Jesus Christ, without the Jordan anointing, was a pious, God fearing, Law loving man.

    And you believe what?

    #835105
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    The one constant in your arguments is that your opinions are irrefutably correct.

    How arrogant.

    #835107
     t8 
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    Jesus Christ, without the Jordan anointing, was a pious,

    It is a commandment to not bear false witness against thy neighbour. I challenge you to find where I have posted that Jesus was not anointed by the Spirit at Jordan. You cannot do it. Why do you say it then? Maybe because you are trying to detract attention away from yourself who denies that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, that he was born the messiah, and that he was born the lord.

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     t8 
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    Hi T8,

    The one constant in your arguments is that your opinions are irrefutably correct.

    How arrogant.

    I am not correct, scripture is. I merely believe it and quote it. I didn’t write it, declare it, or invent it. I believe it though and you do not because you oppose this vehemently. You then say you need the Spirit to essentially deny what is written below. What sport is that exactly? Further, denying Jesus Christ came in the flesh is not advisable. I cannot warn you enough on this doctrine you espeouse.

    Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    Further you cannot answer yes or no about this scripture. Therefore, you are hiding something in the darkness and not coming out into the light.

    Q: Was Jesus born the messiah and lord?
    A: No says Nick. Yes says scripture.

    Clear as day.

    #835110
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Catholicism believes in the infallibility idea too.

     

    #835111
     t8 
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    Think of it like this Nick.

    You have say three sixes and scripture is a Royal Flush.

    I choose scripture, thus you lose this round right?

    #835112
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    Scripture is spiritual but you are confident you can understand it literally?

    Can you hear the Spirit in the mouth of Jesus Christ?

    #835113
     t8 
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    Nick, what spirit derives an opposite meaning to scripture?

    Scripture: Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

    Nick: 30 or so years later at the Jordan a Savior was born; at this point he became the Messiah and the Lord because before this, he was an ordinary man like Nick. Further, a particular Spirit that Nick is led by can let you too know what this scripture really means.

    Um, so you can see why I do not believe you on this one right? Surely you can see that. False teaching is common and false teachers are a dime a dozen. Only those who are led by the Holy Spirit will see through all the lies that the world is under right now.

    #835114
     Anthony 
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    Hi Nick

    You said:

    Your reliance on literalism causes you to get confused.

    The Son of man didn’t exist before the first man.

    But scripture tells us about the eternal Spirit

    For one: I realize All scriptures are not literal, but which one’s Nick? You can make what you want out of scripture that are not literal. The types, the figures, simbolic ect. ect. I can tell you one thing Nick the types and figures never go against what the scriptures are saying literally.  And they never contradict them self.

    Nick you don’t even know what “before the world was” means. That Jesus pre-existed with His Father.   BEFORE, simple.

    You use the word Spirit like it’s part of the Trinity, and at the same time get after people about the Trinity. what is it, do you believe in the Trinity or not? I’ll tell you right out straight I don’t.  I believe the Father and the Son is a family, and there there on person, they have the same nature, if I had to explain there nature, I would have to say look at the Fruit of the spirit, Love  its the first one and so on. And they will according to that. Jesus is a God because His Father is God, He’s like His Father. The Spirit is not a person even though they sent the Spirit on the day of Pentecost to guide and direct to comfort and show us the truth bearing witness with us. And so on. It’s Christ in us the hope of glory. The glory the Jesus Christ had with His Father before the world was and that He as now, sitting at the right hand of His Father. We will share in that glory in fullness after the resurrection.

    The Spirit is eternal because the Father is. It’s His Spirit, which the Son as because He the Son of God. Well Nick what do you believe anything? Later

     

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     GeneBalthrop 
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    Anthony…….”there is ONE GOD, and ONE MEDIATOR between GOD and man, THE MAN,  Jesus the anointed. ”

    So what kind of “MAN” was THE MAN Jesus? , are there more then one kind of  “MAN”.  I have never saw one have you?  Scri p ture also say,  “GOD IS ‘NOT” A MAN, that he should lie, nor a son of MAN, that he should repent”.

    Do you have any scripture that says Jesus was anything other then a “MAN”, Please show us.  Jesus said he was a son of MAN over 80 times in scriptures, seems you people know better what he was then he did, AMAZING.

    Nick is right in what he said about Jesus.  Imo

     

    Peace and love to you and yours ……….gene

     

     

    #835119
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    So you say.

    But you are not familiar with the Spirit of truth are you?

    #835120
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    You need more than confidence in your own understanding to teach from the scriptures.

    Dig deeper.

    #835121
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    You are so supremely confident in your own interpretations that you stoop to abuse others who doubt you.

    Why is this?

    #835122
     NickHassan 
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    Hi Anthony,

    Why try to do it in your own strength?

    Ask God for wisdom as He gives it freely to all. Jas 1

    Ask God for a share of His Spirit which He promises to His Children

     

    #835123
     t8 
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    Nick, I am confident in scripture and if an angel was given a message to declare that went like the following, then it means what it says. Let me explain:

    But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! For behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people: Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is Christ the Lord! And this will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in swaddling cloths and lying in a manger.”…

    This means that Jesus was born in the city of David as savior, messiah, and lord. I can tell you with confidence that any spirit that teaches that this means that Jesus was not born the Christ, is not of God. Any teacher who teaches that Jesus was not born the Christ, is teaching falsely, and absolutely opposes this scripture. It’s as clear as day. You have no excuse.

    #835125
     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    So you say.

    Dig deeper.

    #835126
     Dig4truth 
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    Anyone watch this? Comments?

     

     

    #835127
     GeneBalthrop 
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    Dig4truth. ……those who have the spirit of truth “in” them , have no need of another teacher,   because the Holy Spirit teaches them the truth.

    John 2:27….”But the anointing which you have recieved of him abide the in you and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of “ALL THINGS” and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it has taught you, you shall abide in him.

    1 Cor 2:10…..But God has revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searches “all” things, Yea the “DEEP THINGS'” OF GOD.

    JOHN 14:26….BUT the comforter which is the HOLY SPIRIT, whom the Father will send in my name,  he shall teach you “ALL THINGS” , and bring “ALL THINGS” to your remembrance,  whatsoever I have said unto you.

     

    If we are being taught within by God’s SPIRIT, why should we go out into the world to be taught by others? I am confident God’s Spirit is able to reveal the truth to us, “ALL TRUTH” FOUND IN SCRIPTURE”, even brings out some of the translation errors in them, that throw many off,  like those who believe Jesus was anointed at berth, and was already a messiah at berth, even through that was his “destiny”, to be those things, it didn’t happen,  until it actually happened.  The only people want to make Jesus the anointed savior and messiah at berth is because they want to support their false assumptions of his “preexistence”.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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