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Hi Ed,
Heb 4.15
For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathise with our weaknesses,
but one who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
Tempted, tested and he overcame. Found clean and free from sin he was filled with the Spirit at the Jordan.
Hi,
ps 16.7
I will bless the Lord Who has counselled me;
indeed my mind instructs me in the night.
Hi Nick,
Our views are closer than you think
You know full well that my views are
closer to yours then anyone else here_______________
Your brother
in Christ
Ed JHi Nick,
“Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me,
he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
WE will come unto him, and make OUR abode with him.” (John 14:23)There is one spirit of God.
and one spirit of the son.“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son
into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father” Gal 4:6)Edj….Rom 8:11….”but if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ (the anointed one) from the dead shall “also” quicken your mortal bodies, how?, by his Spirit that dwells “in” you”. NOTICE IT SAYS BY “HIS” SPIRIT, WHICH “IS”, THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD.
The Spirit of the anointed (the christ) which is the Sprit of the Living God, not Jesus’ own spirit, he was born with. The same applies to us all.
NOW IF we become one with God through his Spirit as JESUS SAID HE WAS, saying, “ME AND THE FATHER ARE ONE” WE HAVE ALSO BECOME ONE BY THAT SAME SPIRIT, SO IN THAT SENSE. THE FATHER AND HIS CHRISTOS (ANOINTING SPIRIT), ARE ONE AND THE SAME AND COME UNTO US.
REMEMBER Jesus said, the words i am telling you are “not” my words, but the words of him that sent me. And again “the son of man can do “nothing” of “himself”, the Father in me “he” does the works”.
“One God, who sends forth the anointing Spirit, in all and through all”. As He said in Joel he would pour forth his Spirit upon “All flesh”.
So if the CHRISTOS SAYS, “WE” SHALL COME UNTO YOU, IT IS THE FATHER AND HIS SPIRIT THAT IS BEING SPOKEN OF “through” THE MOUTH OF JESUS.
THE SPIRIT OF (that which has given ) to HIS SON IS THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD THE FATHER. That composes the ‘We’ mentioned there Edj. Imo
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi Ed,
Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God;
the one who abides in the teaching , he has both the Father and the Son.
The WE in Jn 14 may infer to you that there are two Spirits.
It is not written. Do not go too far.
The WE in Jn 14 may infer to you that there are two Spirits.
It is not written. Do not go too far.
Hi Nick,
WE have determined your idea is all washed up
WE – meaning my spirit
Hi Gene,
“God the Father”=117 resurrected Jesus Christ (Gal 1:1), Jesus Christ also resurrects (John 11:43).
1. There is one spirit of God.
2. and one spirit of the son.“for what things soever he doeth (1), these also doeth the Son likewise (2).” (John 5:19)
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God bless
Ed JEdj….Rom 8:11….”but if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, …
Hi Gene,
The Holy Spirit is the “Spirit of[color=white].[/color] God”=117. (Acts 5:3-4)
“The Spirit of Jesus Christ”= 74 x4 is the Spirit
that Jesus was born with at Bethlehem! (Micah 5:2)
You saying otherwise does NOT change the bible one bit!____________
God bless
Ed JEdj….Rom 8:11….”but if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ (the anointed one) from the dead shall “also” quicken your mortal bodies, how?, by his Spirit that dwells “in” you”. NOTICE IT SAYS BY “HIS” SPIRIT, WHICH “IS”, THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD.
The Spirit of the anointed (the christ) which is the Sprit of the Living God, not Jesus’ own spirit, he was born with. The same applies to us all.
NOW IF we become one with God through his Spirit as JESUS SAID HE WAS, saying, “ME AND THE FATHER ARE ONE” WE HAVE ALSO BECOME ONE BY THAT SAME SPIRIT, SO IN THAT SENSE. THE FATHER AND HIS CHRISTOS (ANOINTING SPIRIT), ARE ONE AND THE SAME AND COME UNTO US.
REMEMBER Jesus said, the words i am telling you are “not” my words, but the words of him that sent me. And again “the son of man can do “nothing” of “himself”, the Father in me “he” does the works”.
“One God, who sends forth the anointing Spirit, in all and through all”. As He said in Joel he would pour forth his Spirit upon “All flesh”.
So if the CHRISTOS SAYS, “WE” SHALL COME UNTO YOU, IT IS THE FATHER AND HIS SPIRIT THAT IS BEING SPOKEN OF “through” THE MOUTH OF JESUS.
THE SPIRIT OF (that which has given ) to HIS SON IS THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD THE FATHER. That composes the ‘We’ mentioned there Edj. Imo
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi Gene,
You stating your opinion outside of biblical truth is your to express
But understand I will just ignore your opinion as ‘a tinkling cymbal’“I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal” (1Cor 13:1)
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God bless
Ed JHi Ed,
Micah 5.2 does not specifically mention Jesus or his spirit.
Are you just thinking something else is implied here?
You have yet to produce a witness to your idea.
We know from Rom 8.16 that The Spirit can be with our spirit in us.
We have three witnesses to the fact that the spirit of Jesus left him at his death on Calvary.
Jn 19.30
Mat 27.50
Lk 23.46
Alive in the Spirit (1 Peter 3.18) he was also bodily raised.
You follow tradition by denying he was anointed by the Spirit at the Jordan.
Not wise.
From everlasting to Bethlehem Nick
Hi Ed,
Yes the Spirit of Christ is of eternity.
But not the spirit of a human vessel.
Yes Nick
The spirit of Christ came from everlasting to Bethlehem
Jesus flesh was conceived in Mary
Hi Ed,
Do you not think Jesus was a man like us
with a spirit like ours?
The bible says he was born “The Son of God”
Not became “The Son of God” at JordanGet your facts straight!
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God bless
Ed JEdj….He was born the Son of God, because God Fathered him through impregnating Mary, the only women ever impregnated by God himself. So that makes God Jesus’ earthely Father, much like Adam who God FATHERED, but not by a physical berth process through a women. JESUS is the “only” human “begotten” (a human berth process) by GOD himse, SO MAKING God his EARTHELY FATHER ALSO. He came into existence exactly as we do, through a human berth process by a women. He was also spiritually born at the Jordan river when he was baptized, like us he was reborn again, like he told us, “you must be born again”, so was he.
If you moves JESUS’ idenity away from youself , you have no part with him. IMO
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Hi Gene,
Yes Jesus was fathered by the Holy Spirit of God.
The second Adam.
ps 104.30
The first Adam became a living soul.
The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
1cor 15.47
Perhaps Ed thinks he always was a life-giving spirit.
Hi Ed,
You say Jesus’s FLESH was conceived in Mary.
Sounds like a new teaching.
matt 1.20
“..Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife;
for the child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.
She will bear a son and you shall call his name Jesus,
for he will save His people from their sins.”
Not a child or a son but just a body??
Hi Nick,
The bible says he was born “The Son of God”
Not became “The Son of God” at JordanGet your facts straight!
Edj….He was born the Son of God, because God Fathered him through impregnating Mary, the only women ever impregnated by God himself.
Hi Gene,
Glad you understand! Please explain that to Nick Hassan,
Apparently his bias tries to change the biblical narrative.____________
God bless
Ed JEDJ….THE ONLY THING THAT RAISED JESUS FROM THE GRAVE WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT HE RECIEVED AT HIS BAPTIZM. HAD JESUS NOT RECIEVED THE HOLY SPIRIT INTO HIM HE WOULD HAVE remained DEAD. The samething applies applies to us, if we do not have that same spirit “in” us we will not be in the first resurection. Tha is why we are told, “if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead abides in you he will also quickenyour mortal (dead) bodies “. Know difference between the way Jesus was raised and our resurection.
Jesus recieved God’s spirit into him at the Jordan baptizm. Had he not recieved that Spirit he would still be dead.
Why are you trying so desperately to makr Jesus out to be different then his brothers and sisters. Satan wants us all to think Jesus was and is different then we are, so people will think they can not grow to the measure and “FULL” stature of Christ.
Jesus called himself a son of man over sixty time as i recall, and he also called himself son of God, but he also called us sons of God too. Remember the lords prayer, starte by saying, “OUR” Father”, right?
Do not let Satan seperate you from our brother Jesus as the trinitarians do.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
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