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Scripture works with Spiritual teaching.
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began – Jesus Christ.
Yourself and gene seem ashamed to quote these words of Jesus Christ.
I stand by them.
PC,
Do you hear the voice of the Spirit in the anointed man, Jesus, or can you only see and hear a man?
Writing interprets writing…
the verse that Proclaimer gave establishes the truth, why resist against the truth?One another
Jesus said unto them, Verily,verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:48
Jesus was conceived in his mother’s womb of the Holy Spirit.
But the Spirit given him at the Jordan is of everlasting.
The Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.
Proclaimer…..The glory Jesus had was afforded him before he ever came into his existence, the exact same as the glory of mankind was afforded us before we ever existed also, just as said in Heb 2:6-9. 2:8, says about mankind this…….Thou hast put “ALL” in subjection under his feet (mankind) , he (God) left nothing that is not put under him (mankind) . But (Now) We see not yet (ALL) things under him (mankind) But we see Jesus who was made a little lower then the Angles for the suffering of death (just like us ) (NOW) crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
All this honor and glory was afforded by God for “ALL” mankind, including Jesus before the world was ever created , THE GLORY JESUS RECEIVED WAS A GLORY AFFORDED HIM BEFORE HE EVER EXISTED AND THE EXACT SAME THING APPLIES TO US ALL.
Your false teaching of a “preexisting Jesus” is a LIE.
Peace and love to you and yours Proclaimer………..gene
Flesh contributes nothing.Jn 6.63
Therefore the Jews were grumbling about him because he sai
”I am the bread that came down out of heaven”
They were saying,
” Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know?
How does he now say”I have come down out of heaven.”
nothing new under the Sun.
Natural Men do not recognise the voice of the Spirit speaking through men.
[4] There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
[5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
[7] But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
[8] Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10] He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
[11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
[14] That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
[15] But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
[16] From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.Seek ye first the kingdom and everything else will be added to you.
Be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins and you will receive the Holy Spirit.
And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.
Acts 4.14
Hi Nick,
Jesus said “For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.” John 6:38
Who did the will of God the Father? Answer: Jesus!
Simple Conclusion: Jesus came down from heaven to do the will of God his Father.
We don’t deny the anointing of the Father. But this verse is talking about Jesus.
Because Jesus did the will of His Father. This is not hard to understand.God bless
Berean……Jesus was certainly planed in heaven by God the Father way before he ever existed, but he was not alive until he was born on earth , through the operation of God the father who is in Heaven. So from that point of view he was indeed sent from heaven, but to say he ““preexisted”, as a live being in heaven before his birth on this earth is a “LIE”.
JESUS SAID CLEARLY……..“I AM THE ROOT AND “OFFSPRING” OF DAVID”. What part of that statement by Jesus you still don’ t understand?
Jesus was in the plan and Will of God the Father, before the world was ever founded, and so were we . Why do you people never stop trying to separate Jesus from his humanity? Have you thrown out the scripture that says……“unto us there is but “ONE” God, and one mediator between men and God , “THE MAN’” , Jesus Christ”.
ALL mankind, as well as Jesus also, is a product of God the Father, and we all preexisted in the mind and Will of God before we ever came into our existence and that includes Jesus himself.
peace and love to you and your Berean……..gene
Hi Gene,
You: Your false teaching of a “preexisting Jesus” is a LIE.
1 Peter 1:1o Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and diligently searched, who prophesied of the grace to come in you.
11Searching what or what manner of time
the Spirit of Christ in them did signify:…
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Without the Spirit guiding folk to understand spiritual language they revert to literalism and use useless logic which cannot grasp what is meant.
To all…….2Ti 2:15……>Study to show “YOURSELF” approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed , “RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH”.
And again, 2Ti 2:19…….> Nevertheless the foundation of God stands sure, having this seal, ” THE LORD KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS.” And let everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2 Ti 2:21-25…….> if any man “PURGE HIMSELF” from theses, he shall a vessel unto honor, sanctified, and meet for the masters use, and prepared unto every good work. “flee also youthful lusts ; but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the name of the Lord out of a pure heart. But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strive. And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those who oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth”.
peace and love to you all and yours……..gene
TO HELP YOU READ:
John 16:28
] I came forth from the Father, and👉 am come into the world👈: again, 👉I leave the world, and go to the Father.👈Eph.4
[9] (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
[10] 👉He that descended 👉is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens,👈 that he might fill all things.)🙏
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