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T8……We were descussing the word echad , which is the Hebrew word for “one” , this is a cardinal number meaning 1, no more and no less. So understanding that, when Jesus said me and my father are one, he was not talking about one and the same person, as false teachers say but was saying him and the Father were in agreement, and act as one, in what he was doing. Trinitarians use that word to try to make Jesus a God, as you well know, but as you said, being one with God never makes anyone God. That is correct T8.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
Anthony…… i know what you people “see”, but again you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried, if we take even your own post where you say, “the LORD said, they are one (echad) people, and the all have one (echad) language”. you cleverly or ignorantly, left out the second echad there, so I added it in for you. If we follow your reasoning then they must of had many different languages because echad doesn’t really mean one to you right?
The word echad alway means just “one” rather applied to a nation, or to God. We in our country say we are “one” nation under God. We’re not saying we are many nations, but just “one” nation under God. Echad is a Hebrew ‘cardinal number’ meaning just “one”, and to JESUS AND US, we say ““the LORD “our” God is “one” LORD”. not two or three multiples of anything.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Gene:
You: TC…..You say, the soul has a multude of definitions, that To me is Bull, scripture shows only two, for all creation, you are either a “living soul” or a “dead one”. why not just go by what scripture says a Soul is? Tell us TC, what was Jesus meaning when he said,
Me: I just show you a full page of what Nephesh means. It is incredible that you made the statement above in light of this, just incredible.
You:
Matt 10:28 …..And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul :(the life given spirit that returns back to God who gave it) , but rather fear him which is able to “destory” “both”, soul and body, in hell (grave)
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Did you notice there are “two” things that make up a human man, the body, and the breath of life, which cause us to live. WE ARE TOLD TO FEAR HIM WHO CAN ” DESTORY” “BOTH”, NOT JUST KILL THE BODY.Me: Gene, you and Jodi believe that all will be saved the end. So do I. But you also believe that no one’s body will be destroyed but converted from a flesh and blood to a flesh an bone. So, why are you now considering that Christ has the option of destroying one body…and soul? Gene, if you are wrong, at least be consistent.
Matt 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (grave).
Me: pneuma in the NT means breath or life force. This corresponds with The animal kingdom, including man is of one breath as in Eccl 3:19.
Eccl 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath (me: ruwach H307) so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H7307&t=KJVMe: All have one life force of the earth. But in the new heavens and earth that life force will be the holy spirit.
Eccl 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. 20 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
Gen 4:10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground.
Me: Without the spirit of God in us, we are like beasts in God’s eyes. Our flesh is of one spirit, that of the earth. It returns to the earth when we die, just like the rest of the animal kingdom. The spirit of man of the saved that goes upward at death is the holy spirit. Life of the body is in the blood. And the life in the blood is the spirit (ruwach H307).
Romans 8:16 The Spirit (me: holy spirit) itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Me: The life force of the holy spirit testifies against the life force of our physical bodies. The life force of our physical bodies like all of the animal kingdom will perish. The life force or holy spirit of God will not perish. It returns to heaven whenever a saint dies. We have new bodies in heaven reserved for us. This will be revealed at the resurrection of the righteous dead at Christ’s return.
2 Cor 5:1 (NLT) For we know that when this earthly tent we live in is taken down (that is, when we die and leave this earthly body), we will have a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us by God himself and not by human hands. 2 We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies.[a] 4 While we live in these earthly bodies, we groan and sigh, but it’s not that we want to die and get rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want to put on our new bodies so that these dying bodies will be swallowed up by life. 5 God himself has prepared us for this, and as a guarantee he has given us his Holy Spirit. 6 So we are always confident, even though we know that as long as we live in these bodies we are not at home with the Lord. 7 For we live by believing and not by seeing. 8 Yes, we are fully confident, and we would rather be away from these earthly bodies, for then we will be at home with the Lord.
Me: Gene, what will be abolish or destroyed in Matt 10:28 are our earthly bodies
Ezk 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Me: What is also destroyed in Matt 10:28 is the present condition of our souls. All men will eventually have hearts and souls that conform to the heart and soul of the Messiah.
Gene:
You: if what you say is correct there would be no need for a “body” resurection at all, because the spirit goes back to God who gave it. So in your view turning to a spirit, when we die, the is no need of a ” reserection body” at all. BUT scriptures shows it is a “BODY” that is resurected from the grave, we know the body without the spirit is dead, then what you are saying it stays dead, and only the spirit exists right? So what do you do with this scripture,
Me: No Gene, I never said we will not have bodies again when we die. I said we will have new bodies that we shine like the stars in heaven. This is not physical bodies. Yes, I did say that we can live without bodies. God is spirit and he lives without a body. But we are naked without bodies, so Christ gives us new bodies when he returns. In the meantime, we rest under the altar of God as shown in Rev 6:9-11. Notice that robes where given to them for their new bodies.
You:
Rom 8:23….. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wittness, the “redemption of our “body” .
You preach that there is no need for a ” resurected “body”. But Paul seems to disagree with you.
Me: This is the final stage in our redemption, not the only stage. For our spirits resurrect into heaven at the time of our deaths waiting for new bodies.
You: And tell us how does your non physical resurection , compare to what Ezekiel 37:7-14, how does what you say clear that hurdle. I maintain the resurection is a physical body, with the spirit of life in it. Doing away with the physical creation is not now or ever was in the plan of God. God will deliever “his” whole creation from the bondage of corruption. According to scripture.
Ezk 37:4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of YHWH. 5 Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD. 7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the FOUR WINDS OF BREATH, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
Gen 3:19 till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Me: What brings these bones to life is not the holy spirit but THE BREATH OF LIFE FROM THE EARTH. Both our physical bodies and spirits are of the earth.
Ezk 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL…
Me: This is not the few that are saved before the return of Christ but the whole rebellious house of Israel.
Ezk 37:11 …behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our HOPE IS LOST: we are cut off for our parts.
Me: These are NOT those that are waiting in FAITH for the PROMISES.
Ezk 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith YHWH GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am YHWH when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall PUT MY SPIRIT in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I YHWH have spoken it, and performed it, saith YHWH.
Me: After the house of Israel are resurrected from their graves, then they receive for the first time the holy spirit. Then they can be baptized of the holy with the nephesh of Christ in it.
EZK 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh (nephesh of Christ).
TC,
Kill the body, but not the soul. Our bodies decay, God gives us a new body an eternal body and it is of our soul, it is of our life. It contains our mind again in this body, the mind that had been taught the Gospel of God and had faith.
When you die you have no life, meaning you have no soul. God gives you a new body to restore your life, your soul.
The body of Jesus died, his life ceased to exist, his soul ceased to exist. God didn’t allow his flesh to decay he brought that same body back to life, giving him life again, a soul again. That body was changed from being able to die to never being able to die.
He WAS raised in his GLORY, in Power, INCORRUPTIBLE!!!
unfortunate that you do not believe this clear word, and that you don’t see the glory in God perfecting HUMAN BEINGS, that He had made in His own image.
Hi Jodi,
You:
Kill the body, but not the soul. Our bodies decay, God gives us a new body an eternal body and it is of our soul, it is of our life. It contains our mind again in this body, the mind that had been taught the Gospel of God and had faith.
When you die you have no life, meaning you have no soul. God gives you a new body to restore your life, your soul. The body of Jesus died, his life ceased to exist, his soul ceased to exist.Me: Nope, God gives us a new body to conform to our souls that do not die but sleep
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Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell (grave),… 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell (grave), neither his flesh did see corruption.Me: If someone’s soul is left in the grave, this means that it still exists.
You: God didn’t allow his flesh to decay he brought that same body back to life, giving him life again, a soul again. That body was changed from being able to die to never being able to die.
Me: Nope, God brought back his body and soul to conscious life by the holy spirit. It is the spirit that gives life, not the soul. The soul is the inner person or his essence of his being.You: He WAS raised in his GLORY, in Power, INCORRUPTIBLE!!!
Me: His body is of the holy spirit. He had only one spirit. His body was made a little lower than angels that could and did die but transformed into a body of the spirit made so much higher than angels and could not die.
Hi Jodi,
You: unfortunate that you do not believe this clear word, and that you don’t see the glory in God perfecting HUMAN BEINGS, that He had made in His own image.
Me: Let’s modify this a little.
You: unfortunate that I do not believe the clear word of God.
TC…..I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH JODI, when we are resurected we will have a body exactly As Jesus had at his resurection, a body that will never die. A body composed of flesh and bone like he has. We will not come back as spirits, but human flesh and bone beings. You or anyone else has ever produced a single scripture that says Jesus is no longer a human being, existing without a flesh and bone body, or any scripture that shows any change taking place after he was resurected from the grave.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Carmel chapter 66 does not prove Jesus pre-existed, it proves that he is a CHILD of Israel, he is of the offspring of Jesse and David.
Jodi,
The above is your direct reference to my post which I posted to Gene, which has nothing to do with what I ask in relation to “THE WORD” both as a spirit, and a human body in Jesus, the Son of man. Just to remind you, read again what I ask Gene.
TC……. Not a single word you quoted even hints at Jesus being a Spirit, without having a physical body.
Gene, AND IN THIS CASE also Jodi,
How about the scripture hereunder? Can you tell me something about the meaning of it?
Gene, I suggest that you should ignore the fact that you accept only simply clear English. Otherwise, you end up talking nonsense!
Go ahead let us hear what you can understand, and reveal about Jesus! both as a SPIRIT, and as FLESH.
Now Jodi, to this scripture:
Isaiah 66.6
Did you notice well the number of the chapter and the number of the first verse which I posted?
Now lets’ read Rev 13:18 Here is WISDOM He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast. ( Satan in THE HUMAN BODY) For it is the number of a MAN: and the number of him ( “THE WORD” IN THE HUMAN BODY OF JESUS THE SON OF MAN) is six hundred sixty-six.
Now the number 6 The Number of Man, including the Fallen Nature of Man and the Works of Fallen Man and the Evil of man.
6th day God created man (Genesis 1:27)
6 days were given to man to work (Exodus 20:9, 31:15)
6 generations of Cain’s descendants, ( ALL SATANIC, DEVILS IN FLESH)
6 years a servant had to work before he could be set free
6 times Jesus was accused of being demon possessed
6 times Jesus was asked to give a sign to PROVE Himself
6 people proclaimed Jesus innocent but did nothing to stop His crucifixion (Pilate, Herod, Judas, Pilate’s wife, the thief on the cross, a Roman Centurion).
6 New Testament reference to people practicing sorcery (divination)John 4:6 Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well.
It was about THE SIXTH hour.
John4:29 Come, and see A MAN who has told me all things whatsoever I have done. Is not HE THE CHRIST?
John 19:14 And it was the parasceve of the pasch, about the SIXTH hour: and he saith to the Jews: BEHOLD YOUR KING.
All the above is a clear indication that the number six is well associated with THE ORDINARY man, 6, JESUS THE MAN, 6, and Satan the man.6,
When we read the first four verses we are aware that it is a reference not to the Jewish people as such but to the human race in general. The prophet made us aware that the pleasure of the human race was to live in his BODY in total abomination. Now let’s read verse 5:
5: Hear the word of the Lord, you that tremble at his word:
Your brethren that hate you, and cast you out for my name’s sake, have said:
Let the Lord be glorified, and we shall see in your joy:
BUT THEY SHALL BE CONFOUNDED.
BUT HOW AND IN WHAT WAY THEY SHALL BE CONFOUNDED?
Now here comes what I posted which emphatically declare the BIRTH OF JESUS, THE MAN, THE REDEEMER!
Now we all know that Jesus didn’t come to destroy the world, DESPITE IT WAS ENTIRELY EVIL. but to save the world, to MAKE sin futile. Futile in the sense that despite we see the world in the same state as it was in Jesus time, if not even worse, nevertheless in the eyes of God they are not sins since Jesus poured His blood.
Let’s start and with the light from the Holy Ghost, we would be able to see THE TRUTH.
Isaiah 66.6 A voice of the people from the city, a voice from the temple, the voice of the Lord that rendereth recompense to his enemies.
Rejoice with Jerusalem
In the above, the very word which is prominent is the name JERUSALEM. Which purposely IS mentioned for the first time in this chapter, precisely in verse number 6. Which is clearly associated with MAN. Or more precise, THE BODY OF MAN, and Jerusalem in biblical terms signifies THE HUMAN BODY, and here permit me to make you aware that ZION, IN BIBLICAL TERMS, signifies THE HUMAN SOUL.
WHILE ISRAEL IS THE SPIRIT OF MAN, Lucifer’s. The lost sheep.
Now before I carry on I will allow you to ponder in the remaining verses hereunder with the hope that you perceive the actual entrance into this world of
Jesus BOTH as SPIRIT and as a HUMAN BODY!
I prefer not to say MAN. simply as Jesus was BOTH MALE and FEMALE, androgynous, LIKE GOD HIS FATHER.
JESUS WAS ACTUALLY AN AUTHENTIC EARTHLY MAN MADE OF THE SEED OF DAVID, something which you are mad about, HERE THIS:
ON HIS RESURRECTION! originally slain like a lamb from the beginning of the world. Rev.13:8 HENCE NOT PERFECT since only God is perfect.
7Before she was in labour, she brought forth; before her time came to be delivered, she brought forth a man child.
8Who hath ever heard such a thing? and who hath seen the like to this? shall the earth bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be brought forth at once, because Sion hath been in labour, and hath brought forth her children?
9Shall not I that make others to bring forth children, myself bring forth, saith the Lord? shall I, that give generation to others, be barren, saith the Lord thy God?
10Rejoice with Jerusalem, and be glad with her, all you that love her: rejoice for joy with her, all you that mourn for her.
One more thing regarding Jesus PRE-EXISTENCE, Read hereunder
Galatians4:12 Be ye as I, because I also am as you brethren, I beseech you. You have not injured me at all. 13And you know how, through infirmity of the flesh, I preached the gospel to you heretofore:
and your temptation in my flesh 14You despised not, nor rejected: but received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.
In the context of the verse, Paul is reminding the Galatians of how they first received him when he was ill in their midst, and they helped restore him to health. Then He concluded and saidBUT RECEIVED ME AS AN ANGEL, EVEN AS CHRIST JESUS!
If Paul’s view was that Jesus, in a particular moment in time, definitely before He came INTO the world. HE WAS A PARTICULAR ANGEL!
Which without any hesitation I say that HE WAS IN LUCIFER, the beginning, THE FIRSTBORN ANGEL, the first ever morning star, the carrier of LIGHT, and we all know that
GOD IS LIGHT, hence we are simply accepting as truth John 1: 1 which says
In the beginning was “THE WORD” ……….or more precise:
IN LUCIFER WAS JESUS, THE SON OF MAN TO BE,
And “THE WORD” was with God,
AND JESUS WAS WITH GOD,
and “THE WORD” was God.
AND JESUS WAS GOD.
Also in
Hebrews 9:26 For then he ought to have suffered often from the beginning of the world. But now once, at the end of ages, he hath APPEARED for the destruction of sin by the sacrifice of himself.
The fact that in the above it says:
HE HAS APPEARED! It isn’t a clear assertion that since
HE APPEARED, HE MUST HAVE EXISTED FIRST?
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ
Yes, in English, to ‘appear’ means you were hidden and now your not.
The mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints…
And God wants his people to know the riches and glory in Christ are for us Gentiles too. And the secret is Christ in us and sharing in his glory.
Jodi, I answered your questions, will you please have the curtsy to answer mine…
Hi Jody,
What exactly are you claiming came down from heaven? Jesus body?Jesus’s flesh that is said to be the BREAD of LIFE “which came down from heaven”.
Your words appear to be in conflict with each other,
can you please explain why you believe they are not…Hi Jody,
What exactly are you claiming came down from heaven? Jesus body?Jesus’s body didn’t literally come down from heaven
Please answer my question Jodi, as I have answered all of yours
Hi Gene
You said: Anthony…… i know what you people “see”, but again you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried, if we take even your own post where you say, “the LORD said, they are one (echad) people, and the all have one (echad) language”. you cleverly or ignorantly, left out the second echad there, so I added it in for you. If we follow your reasoning then they must of had many different languages because echad doesn’t really mean one to you right?
Me: Gen 11:1-9
Now the whole earth had one (yachiyd) language and one (yachiyd) speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they plural journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar, and they dwelt there. 3 Then they said to one (echad) another, “Come, let us (plural) make bricks 0and bake them thoroughly.” They had brick for stone, and they had asphalt for mortar. 4 And they said, “Come, let us (plural) build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top is in the heavens; let us (plural) make a name for ourselves,(plural) lest we +plural) be scattered abroad over the face of the whole earth.”
5 But the Lord (Yawhweh) came down to see the city and the tower which the sons of men had built. 6 And the Lord (Yahweh) said, “Indeed the people are one (echad) and they all have one (yachiyd) language, and this is what they begin to do; now nothing that they propose to do will be withheld from them. Plural 7 Come, let Us plural go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one (echad) another’s speech.” 8 So the Lord (Yahweh) scattered them plural abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. 9 Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord (Yahweh) confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord (Yawhweh) scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth.
Gene who is YAHWEH speaking to in verse 7, the word US?
echad is a plurality. The word “yachiyd” is used to indicate “one and only one.
God bless
The word “yachiyd” is used to indicate “one and only one.
Anthony,
you are perfectly right!
Read hereunder in order to hve a more complete understanding of the word “yachiyd”
The yachiyd is then better understood as the beloved child, not necessarily the only begotten. Consider the comments of Shalomah, who said in Mishlei as follows:
Mishlei (Proverbs) 4:3
For I was my father’s son, tender and only yachiyd in the sight of my mother.I just read this on this site hereunder
https://www.cepher.net/blog.aspx?post=3687
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Jesus’s body didn’t literally come down from heaven
EDJ,
AND HOW!
Jesus entered into this world in the most mysterious way, the fact that he was physically manifested in a mere cave, otherwise He would have never been sacrificed at all.
In my Post to Jodi, the one before the last, I eventually clarify Isiaih 66.6-9, THANKS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHO GUIDED ME AND ENLIGHTENED ME PRECISELY TO DISCERN THIS MYSTERY, which is all about Jesus entrance into the world, both as a SPIRIT, and IMMEDIATELY afterword as FLESH in all things LIKE His brethren, BUT NOT AUTHENTIC LIKE HIS BRETHREN as he was
ALL DIVINE! nevertheless both ALL HEAVENLY, the generations of HEAVEN, and ALL EARTHLY the generations of EARTH.
SIMPLY TO MAKE THEM
ONE: THE EMBODIMENT OF THE KINGDOM OF THE SON.
ACCOMPLISHED ALL ON THE CROSS IN
JESUS CHRIST THE HEAD, and the head of Christ is
GOD!
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ
Hi Gene
What about the Us and our in this verse:
And God (Elohim) (plural) said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.’” Genesis 1:26,
Note: Gene, just to let you know, we wasn’t created in the image of Angels.
Who’s the Us Gene?
God bless
Anthony, the word “us” implies more then one, we are told that are seven spirits of God, what makes you think he was not talking about those seven spirits, That are before the throne of God?
Now back to the word echad, heres what one of yours says about it, and it not only talks about that, but shows what happens to people who have the kind of mind set it creates.
The famous Cardinal Newman was refreshingly honest when he conceded that “the mystery ” of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not merely a verbal “contradiction”, but an “incompatibility ” in the human ideas conveyed. We can “scarcely” make a nearer approach to an “exact enunciation” of it, then that of saying that “one thing” is “two things”.
Think about that, it would mean that “the well accepted laws of language and logic have been scrapped”, 3x or 2x cannot equal 1x, if we lose the logic of language we lose our minds and utter nonsense prevails. that is exactly what happens when people by into that garbage, they give there minds to utter nonsense, hanging on to their delusions.
It is well said that God has sent unto them that love not the truth, a spirit of “delusion” , in order for them to believe a “LIE” that is clearly seen here, in trying to make the cardinal number 1, “echad” to mean more the one, there is no scripture the even sujests one means more then one, “hear O Israel, the LORD “our” God is “one” (echad) LORD.” To sujest anything else is simply a “lie”. Given from deluded minds. IMO.
It is a waste of time to even try to convince a person with a “deluded mind” of the truth, it is impossible for them to understand, because it is God himself who has blinded them. They can not “percieve” the truth, it’s just a excercise of futility and the words of God stand true, “unless the LORD build the house, the weary builders build in vain”.
Peace and love to you all and yours……….gene
Hi Gene
You said: Anthony, the word “us” implies more then one, we are told that are seven spirits of God, what makes you think he was not talking about those seven spirits, That are before the throne of God?
Me: what makes you think that there seven spirit’s of God, you know there’s only one Spirit.
Me: the seven spirit’s of God are Angel’s Gene. Angels are called spirits.
I think you know that this is true.
You said: there is no scripture the even sujests one means more then one.
Me I’ve already showed you there are Gene. Either you a idiot, not to see what I send in my previous post. Or you just can’t humble your self and admit your wrong. Let me know if you want me to show you were Angels are called spirits? I think you know this, you seem to think, that you know everything. You still don’t know as much as your PASTOR Jodi.
God bless
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