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Old Testament:
1697. dabar
Phonetic Spelling: (daw-baw’)
Definition: speech, word
Me: God spoke or revealed himself directly to the prophets in telephony or in dreams through his spirit. There was no intermediary. The way God revealed things in the OT was through his spirit, which is his word. God is mind and spirit. God’s mind is in his spirit and his spirit is from his mind. God reveals and creates all through his spirit or word.
Young’s Literal Translation
Romans 8:27 and He who is searching the hearts hath known what is the mind of the Spirit, because according to God he doth intercede for saints.
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son…New Testament:
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Me: The difference between debar and Logos is a SPEAKER. I believe the speaker is a permanent one and not a theophany. The Word was given a permanent body (Heb 10:5) with the soul and heart of a man.
John 1:14 And the Word was made (one with) flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Me: The word became one with flesh. So whatever will be revealed to man now goes through the Messiah. The mind of God was in or bonded fully with the Messiah through the holy spirit or Word. The humanity of the Messiah grew in it’s bond with the holy spirit. God is both the Father and his Son.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Young’s Literal Translation
1 Cor 15:45 so also it hath been written, ‘The first man Adam became a living creature,’ the last Adam is for a life-giving spirit,John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Me: The Messiah or Son in John 5:26 is the Word bonded with the mind of the flesh. The body of Christ is no longer of the flesh in 1 Cor 15:44,45. It is a spirit body. It is not flesh and bone.
What are we exactly. Without God’s Spirit / Breath we have no life. We are a living soul. Are we the soul inside a body. Is the body dispensable? Could we be a part of God’s own life spirit but restricted by existing inside a soul a container of of limited knowledge and experience. Empty of infinite knowledge, is our journey one of reaching the divine as we rise up through the levels of Heaven to see ever more of God? What is the ultimate destination once this age is over and other ages have come into being? Is the ultimate destination for the Spirit that gives us life to be given back to God who gave it, or is the soul given eternal life, so that it is an infinite journey of knowing more of the infinite God? Whatever the answer, God is love, and we will know more love and more love. This is enough. When we experience this, we will be evermore fulfilled.
T8…..I believe YEHWEH is our GOD, AND HE IS one LORD, not two or three seperate beings, as false Christanity teaches, I believe he and his words are one and the same thing, not broken up into two or three anythings. But he can be “in” all and through “all”, by his words which are spirit, He is what life is, he is sharing life with us, seening he brought our lives into existence, by giving us a body with the breath of life in it, and spirit also, He also is teaching us, how to live and to better understand life and death, as we go along. Mankind is his his his ultimate creation, AS SCRIPTURE SAYS,
Heb 2 :6-8…..But one in a certain place testified, saying, what is man, (mankind) that you are mindful of him? , or the son of man (mankind), that you visit him? 7…. You made him a “little” lower then the angels; you crowned him (mankind) with “glory” and “honour” and did set him (mankind) “over” the works of thy (God’s) hands; Thou (God) has put “all” things under his (mankinds) feet, for in that he (God) put “all” in subjection under him (mankind), he (God) Left “nothing” that is not under him (mankind).
That is our desteny, and Jesus is the proof of that, because as he (Jesus ) is so shall we be.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
YOU: So you believe Jesus is God’s word himself right? Then what do you do with this scripture, ” the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me. Seems you have a problem to straighten out. JESUS denies the words he spoke are his, so how could he “himself” be the word of God?
Gene,
YOU: the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me.
the above scripture is corrupted!
Show which version and cut and paste the original, not your own lies, please.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
Hi Gene,
You: the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me.
Me:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word (Logos) which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
John 16:12 (NASB) “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 But when He, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
Look at verse 13 more carefully. Who is the SPIRIT of truth? Is it not the Word of God who is God (John 1:1)? Verse 15 declares that all things that the Father has is Christ’s. Now is there a contradiction between John 14:24 and John 16:12. Not if the Words of God were given to the Messiah who received them afterword (instantaneous) to be expressed by the Messiah.
New American Standard Bible
John 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are SPIRIT and are life.New American Standard Bible
1 Cor 15:45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving SPIRIT.Is not the Word of God now one with the seed of Abraham (Rev 19:13)? Is not the word of God the intermediary between God and man?
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Christ said his father is greater than him. Yes, but that does not say the Word which is now the Messiah is not God. God is mind and spirit. Both parts are necessary, but not equal. The man part of the Messiah is not of physical flesh but of the human mind and heart.
New American Standard Bible
Ezk 36:26 “Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh human heart of the Messiah).Again:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word (Logos) which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.This would be true for the humanity part of the Messiah.–the one who is speaking.
John 5:30 I can OF MY OWN SELF DO NOTHING as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Again, the humanity part of the Messiah. ALL THE WORDS and deeds were done through the man Yasha. It was done by the Father through the Son by the Word of God. They different aspects of the same one person.
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH and beside me there is no savior.
Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is ONE
John 10:30 I and my Father are ONE
Carmel…..what does this mean to you?
John 17:8….For I have given unto them the words which “you” have given me;
John 17: 14…..I have given them “your” word;
John 17:17…..Sanctify them through “your” truth: “your” word is truth.
John 12: 49….For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, “he” gave commandment, what I should say and what “I should speak”.
John 14:24…He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Carmel , the liars are those who twist up scriptures to try to make them say what in fact they do not say. What I have posted above is only part of the proof , but there are others, even in the old like Isa 59: 21 , but what I gave here should be enough, to prove Jesus himself is not the word of God, but he speaks the words that God gave him to say to us all.
God and “his” words are him , just as you and your words are you. The only time my words are not me is if I quoting some one else, Just as Jesus did God the Father. GOD spoke his own words by JESUS, But none of the words of the Father were his words. That would make Jesus stilling GLORY away from the Father, which is exactly what your false teaching do, you Rob GOD THE FATHER AND GIVE “HIS” GLORY TO THE SON. Something Jesus never did.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene:
John 14:24…He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Gene: The thoughts originate from the Father, but become the son’s words.
John 16:13 But when He, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.
Me: The Word of God is the spirit of truth. He speaks through the human part of the Word. The Words of God were expressed by theophany and visions. You can see from verse 13 above that the spirit of truth or the Word is a different aspect of God than the Father.
You: God and “his” words are him , just as you and your words are you. The only time my words are not me is if I quoting some one else, Just as Jesus did God the Father. GOD spoke his own words by JESUS, But none of the words of the Father were his words. That would make Jesus stilling GLORY away from the Father, which is exactly what your false teaching do, you Rob GOD THE FATHER AND GIVE “HIS” GLORY TO THE SON. Something Jesus never did.
Me: No Gene, you, not Carmel rob the Father of his glory by not given glory to his son.
John 16:13 HE WILL GLORIFY ME, for he will take of mine and show it to you.
Me: The Father will Glorify the Son. Gene, why do you want to take this glory away from the Son.
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED IN THE SON.
John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
Gene, you cannot separate the Father from the Son and make him one of the boys.
John 14:24…He that loves me not keeps not my sayings: and the word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Carmel , the liars are those who twist up scriptures to try to make them say what in fact they do not say.
Gene, Yes you are right that
the liars are those who twist up scriptures to try to make them say what in fact they do not say.
Now read your own corrupted scripture and ask yourself, AM I A LIAR?
YOU: the words I am telling you are “not my words”, but the words of him who sent me.
John 14:24 ….. The word which you hear, is “NOT” mine, but the Father’s which sent me.
Now can you see the difference, between the two?
Now to my point!
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him: If anyone love me, he will keep
MY WORD ( SINGULAR with the possessive pronoun)……
24He that loveth me not keepeth not
MY WORDS.(PLURAL with the possessive pronoun)……
THE WORD ( SINGULAR with the article) which you have heard is NOT MINE, but the FATHER’S who sent me.
John15:7 If you abide in me and
MY WORDS( PLURAL with the possessive pronoun)abide in you, …….
John 15:20 Remember MY WORD (SINGULAR with the possessive pronoun) that I said to you: ……If they have kept
MY WORD, (SINGULAR with the possessive pronoun) they will keep yours also.
Gene, As you can read Jesus used the singular, plural, the article THE, and the possessive pronoun MY, as He seems FIT in relation to His message! NO? I don’t believe that John wrote this particular and vital scripture related to “THE WORD” in such MODE for nothing? DO YOU?
Have a go Gene and explain in your own understanding what are the actual different messages Jesus had in mind. ESPECIALLY the one which you produced corrupted.
Peace and Love in Jesus Christ
Truthcomber. ….if I say God’s words is mine then I rob GOD, YOU ROB GOD BY SAYING JESUS “IS” THE WORD of GOD, WHEN JESUS SAID THEY WERE THE Fathers words. YOU NOT saying Jesus is “speaking” God’s word to us, your say he himself is the word himself. That false.
I am not dishonor God the Father in any way, I DO NOT GIVE HIS GLORY TO ANYONE, EVEN JESUS, now having said that, do I “HONOUR ” Jesus? Yes , with the honour God gave him, as the head of the house hold of God, of which I am a part of.
SO JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN, I Bow my knee to Jesus, to the GLORY OF GOD.
Php….2:11…. And that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS lord (adoni) , to the “Glory of” God the Father.
It does not say to the “glory” of Jesus , now does it?
You people can’t understand this because you have made Jesus your God. Show me one place where Jesus ever robed GOD the Father of his glory, Jesus said “I have “glorified” “you” on the earth, I have finished the work which “you” gave me to do.
Jesus full well knew he was not God, saying in prayer, “and this is life eternal, that they might know you , the “Only” true God , and Jesus the anointed one, whom “YOU” have sent.
And now, O Father, glory “you” me with “thine own self” with the glory which I had “with you before the world was., (that glory was a planed glory before Jesus ever existed)
All who worship Jesus as a deity OR GOD OR EQUATE HIM EQUAL WITH THE FATHER ARE IDOLATERS .
WHAT’S interesting is Jesus came preaching , God the Father, and the kingdom of God, you people preach Jesus and actually worship him more then God the Father, Just as 2ths2 prophesied wold happen in the apostate churches.
You believe this is yet to come, but I tell you it here now, and has been for the last 1700 hundred years.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi Gene
I come back and still see you still can’t take the truth you should listen to what TC and Carmel are tell you.you really can’t see truth on this matter, it’s like you speak scripture backwards. It just not your time, you just not the call and few. He hasn’t taken the blinders off yet.
God bless
ANTHONY, I will never accept “your”renditions of the truth” or theirs either. You people are simply the blind leading the blind and are aleady in the ditch, only you simply don’t know it yet. If that light that is you be darkness, how great is that darkness?, is the proper question.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Well Gene
I’m no longer going to debate scripture,with you or anyone.
Romans 1: 29
Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
It’s the work of the flesh.
Anyone who is deceived, dose not know they are deceived.
Me: Attitude is everything. Willingness to change and continual repentance are the only safe way forward for those who are now in Christ.
I’m done with these forums. May God take the blinders off fully, for the both of us.
God bless 🙏
Gene:
You: if I say God’s words is mine then I rob GOD, YOU ROB GOD BY SAYING JESUS “IS” THE WORD of GOD, WHEN JESUS SAID THEY WERE THE Fathers words. YOU NOT saying Jesus is “speaking” God’s word to us, your say he himself is the word himself. That false.Me: Jesus is the word of God. The Word of God expresses the words of God.
John 16:13 But when He, the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.
Me: Can you not see that the “spirit of truth” is a different aspect of God from the Father; in fact it is the Word of God.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning WITH God…
Me: Can you not see that the Word of God is a different aspect of God than the Father.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Me: The Word of God was made on with the seed of David. That is how we can reconcile this scripture:
Isa 43:11 I, even I, am YHWH and beside me there is no savior.
Gene:
You: I am not dishonor God the Father in any way, I DO NOT GIVE HIS GLORY TO ANYONE, EVEN JESUS, now having said that, do I “HONOUR ” Jesus? Yes , with the honour God gave him, as the head of the house hold of God, of which I am a part of.
Me: Yes Gene, you do desecrate the word of God.
You: SO JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN, I Bow my knee to Jesus, to the GLORY OF GOD.
Me: This is a deliberate lie by you. Paul bows both knees to Jesus, not one knee.
Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my KNESS unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Me: Nowhere does it say I bow my knee to Jesus. Why would bowing one knee to Jesus glorify the Father?
Eph 2:11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Me: Every knee means both knees. The unknown holy name (Judges 13:18) of Jesus is the same unknown holy name of his Father. This name is subscribed to Jesus in Eph 2:11.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Me: When we bow down to God and ask in the name of Jesus, we bow down to Jesus which has the same name. Both figuratively sit on the same throne. Do we ask the Messiah to step off the throne of God temporarily when we pray to the Father?
You: Php….2:11…. And that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS lord (adoni) , to the “Glory of” God the Father.
It does not say to the “glory” of Jesus , now does it?Me:
Phil 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (2962. kurios) to the glory of God the Father.
Gene, the word is Kurios, not Adoni in Phil 2:11 as you falsely claim.
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/2-11.htmRev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, (KURIOS) Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord (KURIOS) Jesus Christ be with you all. Amien
Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God…16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD (KURIOS) OF LORDS (KURIOS).
There are many examples of Christ being called Kurios
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2962&t=KJV
You can look through the piles. Christ is Kurios just as much as his Father is Kurios. When you glorify the Father, you glorify the Son. It is that simple.John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:.. 4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Gene:
You said: You people can’t understand this because you have made Jesus your God. Show me one place where Jesus ever robed GOD the Father of his glory, Jesus said “I have “glorified” “you” on the earth, I have finished the work which “you” gave me to do.
Me: The Father had also glorified his Son with the same glory (John 17:1-5). It is you that rob the Father of his Glory by denying the Messiah his glory.
You: Jesus full well knew he was not God, saying in prayer, “and this is life eternal, that they might know you , the “Only” true God , and Jesus the anointed one, whom “YOU” have sent.
Me: This statement does not mean that Jesus is not God. The Word in the Messiah was and always was God. The Messiah would be the Word of God, and thus God with the seed of David after his resurrection and glorification into heaven.
Read the context of John 17:1-5 together with:
1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him (Christ) that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.Gene said: You: And now, O Father, glory “you” me with “thine own self” with the glory which I had “with you before the world was., (that glory was a planed glory before Jesus ever existed)
Me: The Word had always existed and became one with flesh (John 1:1-2, 14). The seed of David completely bonded with the Word of God after his glorification.
Hey Anthony,
Please do not abandon us. We need your voice. Let iron sharpen iron (Prov 27:17). You should reconsider.
Truthcomber. ….you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried , Jesus had a God and it was not himself. He clearly said, I am going to “my” God and “your” God, “my Father, and “your” Father, even a simpleton should know he was not the “only” God he was going to. You make all kinds of word studies , but are unable to understand what ” my” and “your” or “you ” mean. why not go and learn what those words mean before you take them out of your renditions. Really I believe I am debating with completely blinded people, that can L t even get simple thing straight, much less defficult ones.
Pease and love to you and yours. …….gene
Hi TC
YOU: The Father had also glorified his Son with the same glory (John 17:1-5). It is you that rob the Father of his Glory by denying the Messiah his glory.
ME: Gene does not deny the glory of the Messiah, nor do I. The GLORY of the Messiah is the GLORY of a Son of Man receiving eternal life and being GIVEN by his God and our God authority over all flesh. Such was a PROMISE TC that God had WITH Him in HIS WORD before the world was and then that WORD of HIS was GIVEN much later in history to David, and it concerned David’s OWN SPERMA. Such is the GLORY that Jesus is referring to in John 17.
John 17:1 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
You will disregard WHEN JESUS said himself of WHEN he was SENT and what he was to accomplish according to God’s plan that had existed in God’s WORD before the world was, which Jesus DIRECTLY tells YOU TC that he was SENT as we are directly told beginning in Galilee, to PREACH God’s word (Luke 4), of which he later states is not his own word.
The GLORY of God is that HE perfected a Son of Man through HIS SPIRIT according to HIS OWN WORD. Because of THAT PERFECTION Jesus was WORTHY of being raised from the dead. WITHOUT that perfection created by Jesus’s God and our God, Jesus would be DEAD, he would not exist, his flesh would have become dust, and all his plans, his thoughts would have likewise perished.
YOU are OBLIVIOUS to God’s Gospel, Jesus is PROOF that our Almighty God can perfect a human, yes a human just like us, doing so THROUGH His Spirit and by HIS WORD. Such is exactly WHY Paul tells you TC that the unity of our faith is to believe that Jesus is the Son of God according to being a perfect man, the fullness of an anointing, meaning through receiving the fullness of God’s Spirit, also said in scripture as being BORN of God, where one cannot sin.
TC think about this. Paul said that though he were a Son yet he learned obedience by what he suffered, and having been perfected he became our source of eternal life. There are TWO main messages here, which you don’t seem to have a clue as to either one.
The First
The Son of Man (Jesus), when he was on EARTH he was called a Son of God BECAUSE as the Son of MAN he had been BORN AGAIN, BORN of God’s Spirit. YOU DENY this. He was CALLED to righteousness just as God had promised in HIS word given to Isaiah, where God would hold his hand and give him for a covenant for the people. He was the Son of Man God was mindful of, who God made a little lower than the angels FOR the suffering of death, exactly what David had prophesied concerning his OWN SPERMA. God’s WORD is TRUE in Jesus, God’s WORD spoken by Isaiah and David became fulfilled in the FLESH of Jesus, where a Son of Man was BORN of God, made a Son of God. But though he were a Son (having no sin) yet he still NEEDED to LEARN, he had to undergo a final test to display his unrelenting FAITH to his God and our God. He denied his weak flesh that fears death, and served God remaining faithful through that ultimate test of being willing to die.
A MAN just like you TC DID THAT, and he was ABLE to do that because God’s Spirit was IN him, and because God was WITH him holding his hand to keep him faithful and thus able to fulfill the prophecy Isaiah spoke about, be a covenant for the people.
God’s glory is the work of His Spirit in a MAN. The glory of Jesus is that he overcame mankind’s weakness, the flesh that draws us away from serving God and the mind that wants to rely on it’s own devices. Jesus is our example of how we are to have faith in God, why Jesus told his followers that they would be persecuted too unto their death and if they remained faithful to God unto that death that they too would receive eternal life. Jesus is our master because God gave the perfected SON of MAN, just as He had promised, dominion over all the works of His hands, of which includes all flesh.
TC Jesus does not have dominion because he preexisted, he has dominion because God perfected a Son of Man. TC, Jesus was not perfected because he pre-existed and thus by that he had an advantage, he had an advantage over all other humans because he was the only human to have been begotten by God in full measure.
Second,
The above is the very thing we are to believe in and it is God that calls you to believe in it. By believing that God’s glory is that He through His OWN Spirit perfected a human, then we too shall be made perfect by God’s Spirit. Our UNITY of FAITH is to believe that the Son of God is a perfect man according to the fullness of an anointing, and that I am to likewise become an eternal Son of God as he is through that same Spirit. God has GIVEN Jesus the ability to know the hearts of man, and according to what he sees he rewards or punishes upon his return.
TC, when Jesus returns he will be looking at the heart of man, and that which he is looking for is what Paul spoke about, he is looking for those who say in their heart, — God make me like Jesus, I want to serve you as he did, free me from my flesh and my mind that by nature desires to serve my flesh, I want your Spirit God as you gave it to my brother Jesus so I can be perfect as he is perfect, I know he has been in heaven preparing a place for me, and when this Son of Man returns among the clouds to fulfill all your will, I am ready to follow him according to what you have been teaching him.
The GLORY of Jesus is that of which a SON of MAN RECEIVED
THIS GLORY was a PROMISE revealed to the prophets but it had been WITH God before He, by HIS OWN hands as we are directly told, made the world.
Psalms 8:3 When I consider thy heavens, the work of thy fingers, the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained; 4 What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him? 5 For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour. 6 Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
Though MADE HIM (the sperma of David, a Son of Man) to have dominion over the works of God’s hands.
Though hast crowned HIM (the sperma of David, a Son of Man) with GLORY.
God was mindful of a man, He visited a man, the son of David, anointing him with His Spirit, making him born of God, a Son of God who God would hold his hand and keep him for a covenant even a light to the Gentiles, as a lamb that would remain without spot or blemish, even through the suffering of death.
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