The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

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  • #831378
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK…what do you think it means the the man of sin would be “reaveald” in his time? It is the time he is “reaveald”, i have reaveald him to you all, or do you despise prophecy.

    Bad form Nick, 1 Th 5:20, “despise not prophesying”

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #831389
    NickHassan
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    Hi Gene,

    You believe you are a prophet because you think you understand a prophetic verse

    But you deny the teachings of Jesus Christ about the kingdom of darkness and other things.

    Start with the teachings of Jesus Christ and you might put your ideas into some sort of perspective.

     

    #831391
    GeneBalthrop
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    NICK….NO I DON’T “THINK” I Do I know i do. YOUR problem is you don’t understand 2 Ths 2, so you deny what i said, but you completely fail to show anything different. That makes any sense at all and then you now become a judge of what is said concerning it, but offer nothing.

    I think beelzeebub you lord of the fly’s, and the neither world may have you confused. JESUS did not cast anything out by your lord of the fly’s , beliving all those pagan Jewish false teachi b gs they got from all the pagan nation they went after, not only screwed them up but looks like some of that rubbed off on you.

    Nick, JESUS CAST OUT UNCLEAN AND EVIL SPIRITS, BY THE FINGER OF GOD THE FATHER. Not by some other demonic being those fruit cakes thought existed.

    Nick, go back and reread exactly what Jodi wrote about this subject, and this time really think about it m OK?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

    #831392
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Understanding a prophetic verse does not make you a prophet.

    Indeed the Lord Jesus cast out demons by the finger of God, The Holy Spirit.

    But he did not deny Satan, the devil, the evil one or Beelzebub.

     

    #831394
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    God is not the God of the dead but of the living.

    You are much mistaken.

     

    Have not yet passed over from death to life?

    #831395
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    You speak of the nether world as if Sheol was a pagan teaching.

    Is that what you believe?

    #831397
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….You believe all kind of strange teachings, as far as am i alive, yes, i am, are you, but when i die i like Jesus will be dead, until i like Jesus am resurected from the grave, that is my hope.

    I really don’t think i will be in a nethier world communicating with anyone. Neither was Jesus when he was dead either, or do you think he was lying when he said he “was” dead, and “NOW” ALIVE FOREVER MORE. IF HE WAS NOT TRULY DEAD M WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT?

    You remind me of the deciples that thought Lazerus was actually sleeping, so Jesus finally told them LAZERUS IS “Dead” , which part of that you don’t understand Nick, LAZARUS was not in a neither world still alive as you falsely assume Nick, he was “TRULY” DEAD, AND DEAD DON’T MEAN ALIVE IN ANY LANGUAGE.

    ALL WHO HAVE DIED ARE ACTUALLY DEAD, NICK, WAITING FOR THE RESURECTION, “THAT WILL WITINESS THE REDEMPTION THEIR BODIES”. What part of that scripture you don’t understand.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831398
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….sheol, simply means the grave, just like the word Hell, also means grave. The Greeks and pagans all believed that they would simply go to another place and still be alive, so did the Pharaoh’s of ancient Egypt. Is that what you also believe also.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831400
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….where did i ever say i was a prophet? Because i understood those scriptures in 2 ths 2, how does that make me a prophet. What i was say is the you despise prophesy, by denying what Paul was talking about, Paul was the one who wrote that not me.

    Because you are ignorant of what he was saying in 2 Ths 2, isn’t my fault Nick.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831401
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Others can help you see that the Old Testament is not superstitious paganism.

    And the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ is pure truth.

    If you knew the Spirit you would know this.

    #831403
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    Private interpretations are of little value.

    You need witnesses.

    #831418
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK…”PRIVATE INTERPUTATIONS”, nonsense, why don’t you take a stabe at telling us what you “believe” Paul was saying in 2 THS 2, O WISE ONE. Come on give us you understanding of it. You’ve yet to do that, at least with anykind of understanding i can see anyway. If you are ignorant about, then why not just keep your mouth closed?

    Why ridicule and produce nothing yourself? I stand by everthing i worte about it, until i am shown something else more clearly by anyone, i standby what i have written, bad mouthing me produces nothing, but strife, you are not my lord or my teacher Nick. I have one, don’t need you for that job.

    Now you call into doubt if i knew the spirit, who are you to question my faith? I certainly do not need you to question me. I will stand or fall by my own master, not some won’t a bee.

    God the Father has given me tons proofs in my life of his presents over 55 years now, and you come alone and try to cause me to doubt my spirituality, that causes me to wonder whose your real master is Nick.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #831424
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    You deny the teachings of Jesus Christ.

    He drove out demons, showed us Hades and taught about Satan.

    Why do you not support him?

    #831436
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    NICK…I certainly do support him, it your renditions of somethings i don’t support, for instance , please show us where Jesus ever said he believed in beelzeebub, (the lord of the flies) show it to us, being your so sure jesus said, “there really was a beelzeebub being”, if you want us believe you know what you are saying,right?, and while your at it please show us what, 2 Ths2 is saying?, we are waiting for your reply, if you have one, which i doubt you have any. Do you really believe Jesus believed in what those screwed up Jew’s were believing in was true?

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

    #831449
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    You tell us you support the teachings of the Spirit through Jesus Christ.

    He corrected the Sadducees and told them they were mistaken.

    But he did not correct the understandings of the Jews about Beelzebub.

     

    So you put his teachings among those of the ‘screwed up Jews?’

    #831486
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….Please show one scripture where Jesus every said there was a beelzeebub., quite dodging the point, just show it. Your raving about Jesus accepting the Jews pagan ideas have no support. A devil is simply an evil or unclean spirit that can be cast out if a person has it, God uses them at times to punish sinners as in the case of king Saul.

    Your teaching about people still alive when dead is also a false teaching, when we are dead Nick, we are indeed dead, until we are resurected by God from the grave, just as JESUS WAS. IMO

    Go back and reread what Jodi clearly presented, much of that is of the old Testementm but also of the New to.

    Everything boils down to two simple things, “good or evil”, your either doing one or the other in your life. Jesus said, “You’, make the tree good and it’s fruit good or “You” make the tree corrupt and Its fruit corrupt, for every tree is known by “IT’S fruit”.

    Every man shall be judged by what “HE OR SHE” has done in their life. Even us who have the spirit of God shall stand before the judgement seat of Jesus an be judged. Does it not say, “Judgement begins at the house of God”? So lets not kid ourselves, we will give acount for what “we” are doing, not for what some demonic spirit “being” YOU BELIEVE IN, is doing. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831491
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gene,

    As you say you infer you seem to see everything so clearly that changing any idea is impossible for you.

    But you now preach the sanitised gospel of Jodi?

    See no influence of evil?

     

    Yes all responsibility for your behaviours is your own in the end.

    Jesus faced Satan down and we have to follow him.

    Temptation exists.

     

    #831511
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick….i am not preaching Jodi, but when i read something that is as detailed as what she posted, with bibical accuracy, i do acknowledg it, even when you posted things that i believe is right i have committed on it many time here. What wrong with that? Shoudn’t we encourage one another, shoudn’t we edify one another? Jodi spent a lot of time, going through alot of scriptures putting them together for us, is that not worthy of praise?

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

    #831525
    Ed J
    Participant

    Jodi spent a lot of time, going through alot of scriptures putting them together for us, is that not worthy of praise?

    Hi Gene,

    the workman is worthy of his meat (Matt 10:10)
    – NOT – the workman is worthy of his praise
    That’s one more unbiblical idea of yours

    ____________
    God bless
    Ed J

    #831526
    Ed J
    Participant

    Jodi spent a lot of time, going through alot of scriptures putting them together for us, is that not worthy of praise?

    Praise be to Ed – who goes through alot of scriptures putting them together for Gene

    Ha ha ha ha

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