The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

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  • #177235
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    No you cannot communicate with God except in His Spirit[1Cor2]
    Blessed too is the man in whom God does not find sin[Ps32]
    It is His view that matters and he said love covers many sins.

    We often do not know we sin.
    There is also sin and serious sin.[1jn5.17]
    Rejection of the Lord is the only way he will leave us.[2Tim2.11f]

    #177236
    terraricca
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    nick
    by killing your carnal person ,you become one with God and Christ and wen we die we are also spirits in God or our thoughts are with him so we live with him.

    In Gen, you can read that God spook to Adam in this way he was made pure God thought him all he knew,but wen he sin that was lost,i cup was full of dirt.

    #177237
    terraricca
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    nick
    No you cannot communicate with God except in His Spirit[1Cor2 this is true and that s exactly what i explaining to you.

    yes i agree with you on the sin of rejection.

    #177238
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    With man's power such things are not possible but God's Spirit can help us till death and freedom from the flesh.

    Adam was a carnal man of dirt who was made clean but ignorant and unwise and he submitted to the serpent satan and became captive in his kingdom.

    The Spirit of God is the way back to unity with God in Christ

    #177240
    terraricca
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    nick
    We often do not know we sin;this is true but God help us through this process and will tell you that what you are doing is not right.look how CAIN was notified by God of is feelings going bad and did not lessen and killed his brother.

    #177241
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    In the garden all men were in the presence of the Lord.
    They were cast out and barred from that close and individual access.

    Yet now God is still close to all men as His Spirit Paul told the Athenians in Acts 17.
    Jesus is the way to find Him.

    #177242
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    All sons of Adam are born with lusts already in them and giving into these lusts causes sin.[Jas1.14]

    #177244
    terraricca
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    nick

    this is why Christ says; with God all is possible.wen we leave it to God thoughts to over come our own carnal thoughts we are no longer the old but a new creation now we are born again in Christ spirit'

    #177246
    terraricca
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    nick
    this was of no interest to the descendants of Adam ,but it was always there to grasp Enoch ,Abel,Noah,did

    #177247
    NickHassan
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2010,08:18)
    nick

    all that is true ,righteous man have always be the same pick any though out the century s .their inside cup was totally clean ,and if they corrupt themselves they lost the connection just as Adam did,

    without connection to God we are nothing,we understand nothing,and we see nothing.

    the carnal person we have to crucifie it.


    Hi T,
    None are righteous except in the opinion of men.
    All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.[Rom3]

    Cleansing of the cup means repentance and submission to the command to be washed in the name of Jesus. the blood of Jesus washes the inside of the cup.[1Peter3]

    Then God may fill us with His Spirit if we seek the blessing.[Lk11, Acts 2.39]

    #177248
    terraricca
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    nick

    None are righteous except in the opinion of men.
    All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.[Rom3 this is true but you apply it wrong Paul say this because none could supply the reunification with God because we have all sinned,so it at to be Christ a sinless man.

    #177249
    terraricca
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    nick
    also if you start cleaning up your cup this does not mean that you will feel God instantly there are other things to consider as well.like James tell us.

    #177251
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    God helped His son survive the sufferings and temptations we all face and he did not sin.
    He was clean and fit to be anointed by God's Spirit.

    All of us need washing

    #177252
    terraricca
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    nick
    in the garden of Eden there was a angel looking after them this is why it says God was present there

    but they had the inside cut in the heart as well ,that wen they sin got lost.

    #177254
    terraricca
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    nick

    we are sinners but we have hope and faith,to correct it.and God will give his spirit in our hearts

    #177255
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    So you say but is it written?

    #177256
    NickHassan
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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2010,09:04)
    nick

    we are sinners but we have hope and faith,to correct it.and God will give his spirit in our hearts


    Hi T,
    Anyone who wants to save his own life will lose it-it is impossible.
    We cannot achieve righteousness, just filthy rags.

    The Spirit is not a prize for cleaning up our own act-we can only wash the outside of the cup.

    Obedience is the key to our faithful God's ministry in us.

    #177257
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The blessing of the Spirit of God is to be sought.[Lk11]
    Ask and you will receive.

    #177305
    terraricca
    Participant

    nick
    were did i say the spirit is a prize??
    were did i say you do not have to obey God?
    and why can you not achieve righteousness with Christ blood?
    were did i say you do not have to ask?

    there is no scriptures changes the judgement of God is just and righteous because all men new him,he made himself know to them but they rejected him.

    the good seeds are the ones who produce fruits.
    how can you say this is self salvation? then accepting to do Gods will is also selves salvation?

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2010,09:04)
    nick

    we are sinners but we have hope and faith,to correct it.and God will give his spirit in our hearts

    Hi T,
    Anyone who wants to save his own life will lose it-it is impossible.
    We cannot achieve righteousness, just filthy rags.

    The Spirit is not a prize for cleaning up our own act-we can only wash the outside of the cup.

    Obedience is the key to our faithful God's ministry in us.

    Jas 1:2 Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds,
    Jas 1:3 because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.
    Jas 1:4 Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
    Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
    Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.
    Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
    Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does

    Jas 1:22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.
    Jas 1:23 Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror
    Jas 1:24 and, after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.

    #177306
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    God saves.
    All is by grace.

    But there is a starting point.
    The seed of the gospel is sown and those who listen and obey can enter that kingdom.

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