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- January 7, 2010 at 7:32 pm#169060NickHassanParticipant
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The wind is not a hurricane or a gale and forces nothing.
It is us who must learn to be LED BY that wind.[Gal6]January 7, 2010 at 10:50 pm#169100GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..Who said it was a hurricane , I was only showing your false conclusion as a wind does not have force, The GRACE of GOD has Force also , Just as GOD used His creative (FORCE) to create everything in existence, He also uses it to create rightiousness, in us. “For you are (created unto good Works”.
Nick……….You just preaching your rendition of what scripture say, just your own opinions that is all, Your statement that it is (US) who (MUST) (LEARN) to be Led by that WIND> Shows your self PRIDE , You can't even go to Jesus no matter how hard you try unless The FATHER DRAWS YOU. When are you going to DIE to YOURSELF as Jesus did to HIMSELF, and start trusting in GOD as Jesus did? IMO
January 7, 2010 at 11:30 pm#169122NickHassanParticipantG,
Once again you boast publicly of your supposed humility.
Is that wise?Surely it would be best to rely on scripture to give yourself a stronger foundation than yourself?
January 8, 2010 at 1:32 am#169134GeneBalthropParticipantNick………..No boasting just truth , which you seem to have problems with. IMO
January 8, 2010 at 4:26 am#169147NickHassanParticipantG,
Is declaration that your speculations are truth further unwise boasting?January 8, 2010 at 4:56 am#169149NickHassanParticipantG,
The Spirit of God reminds us of the teachings of Jesus.[Jn16]
You offer new ideas and refuse his teachings.
Where does it all come from?January 9, 2010 at 1:44 am#169331GeneBalthropParticipantNick………..Show me where my so called ideas are desperate from Jesus'. Post it don't just false accuse me . If you had the SPirit of
God teaching you to understand scripture would be far better the Just Parroting it. IMOJanuary 9, 2010 at 6:47 am#169373NickHassanParticipantG,
Best you parrot it till you realise it's beauty and power that put your odd new intellect ideas into the shade.January 9, 2010 at 4:58 pm#169410GeneBalthropParticipantNick………So post it then instead of just mouthing off all the time. Your not even Parroting anymore, Just trash talking. WE all can see this. Time to stop it and get down to what you think you understand for a change.
January 9, 2010 at 6:13 pm#169419NickHassanParticipantHi,
So the Spirit of God enlightens and teaches reminding us of the Words of Jesus.
Thus we can be transformed by renewal of our minds unto the mind of Christ.[Rom12.2]
The Spirit we receive is empowering and grace giving and teaches but the Spirit is not that mindJanuary 9, 2010 at 9:25 pm#169438terrariccaParticipanthi nick
Jas 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him.
Jas 1:6 But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.Jas 1:7 That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord;
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does.Jas 1:18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.
January 10, 2010 at 8:20 am#169493NickHassanParticipantHi,
The Spirit we share with God in Christ takes us into the deeper things of God[1Cor2]
The Spirit teaches us from scripture and can give us understanding.
But understanding is not the sole purpose of the Spirit.It can be a mirage and not an oasis.
January 10, 2010 at 5:02 pm#169501GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..Where does scripture say it can be a mirage and not an Oasis, why do you condemn others for speculating and you do the same thing. Your basically saying it is up to us humans to decide as if we are our own salvation and GOD'S Spirit is unable to really effect salvation in our lives it totally up to Us. In this you are refusing to give GOD the FATHER Glory and making him ineffective in our lives unless we give him permission , nothing but a form of self salvation a salvation based on YOUR terms not GOD'S. All who are of GOD will choose GOD way by the GRACE (influencing on the heart) by GOD , Show one scripture where those whom GOD gave his HOLY SPIRIT ever FAILED to acquire salvation.
The Spirit of or from GOD (IS) the INTELLECT OF OR FROM GOD, it is the imputed thinking or thoughts of God given to us, it is both powerful and changes us from the inside . It makes the inside of the cup clean , so to speak . Nick the Spirit (IS) the INTELLECT of GOD given US. It is expressed to us through words, because words transmits thoughts, God's intellects to us. Jesus was telling the truth when he said “the words I am speaking unto you (ARE) Spirit and LIFE. They are Spirit because they transmit intellect to us, they are life because, a mans life consists through his thoughts and his thoughts are a result of the intellects he has. “so a man thinks so he is”> we are told, we are animated by our thoughts and our thoughts are a result of our intellects or Spirits. Just that simple. IMO
January 10, 2010 at 6:29 pm#169504NickHassanParticipantG,
The Spirit is the intellect?
Does intellect give life, or understanding?
Men admire their own intellect but it is just another vanity.learn from scripture not your intellect.
January 10, 2010 at 6:37 pm#169506NickHassanParticipantG,
IMPUTED THINKING?
No, men are touched by God but fall back on their own thoughts claiming they are now from God.January 10, 2010 at 8:14 pm#169518GeneBalthropParticipantNick……..I understand that the word of GOD can fall on deaf ears, but that is not to say those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear are falling back on their (OWN) thoughts claiming they are of GOD. If they give supporting scriptures to support their words then , how say you those thoughts are from themselves. It would be more appropriate to say those who can't see what scripture is saying are those who are speaking from their CARNAL MINDS. Those who have the SPIRIT (INTELLECT) from GOD are able to search the deep things of GOD, With that SPIRIT (INTELLECT). Many things must be spiritually understood, as Jesus said. Take for instance your inability to understand that the SPIRIT of GOD (IS) GOD”S INTELLECT given us, Even though Jesus explained it clearly. You appear not to yet even understand that a word is the expression of ones intellect. Your example of men being touched by GOD is false , your trying to say the seed sown into the world means all are touched by GOD , but you fail to realize that the ground must be prepared by GOD himself in order for those words to take rood and grow. You self reliance salvation is just not true, GOD is (NOT) powerless to save whomsoever he wishes to at anytime he wishes. “FOR WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE AND THAT NOT OF OURSELVES, (it salvation) is a GIFT of GOD. YOU either believe it or not, it's just that simple. IMO
January 10, 2010 at 9:56 pm#169529NickHassanParticipantG,
Since none agree to any depth with you are all here deaf and of carnal minds?
Or do you have a problem?January 10, 2010 at 10:42 pm#169534terrariccaParticipantgene
Ecc 2:13 I saw that wisdom is better than folly,
just as light is better than darkness.
Ecc 2:14 The wise man has eyes in his head,
while the fool walks in the darknessEcc 3:14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.
Ecc 3:15 Whatever is has already been,
and what will be has been before;
and God will call the past to account.Ecc 5:1 Guard your steps when you go to the house of God. Go near to listen rather than to offer the sacrifice of fools, who do not know that they do wrong.
Ecc 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth,
do not be hasty in your heart
to utter anything before God.
God is in heaven
and you are on earth,
so let your words be few.Ecc 5:3 As a dream comes when there are many cares,
so the speech of a fool when there are many wordsGod will give you according to is will ,this means it is not depend on you ,but if you do not serve your God he may give you what you do not want to receive.
so because we can do something to change are ways, this is why we are responsible for our actions ,and it is because we change our action into the will of God that we receive what God as made available in is will for our actions of compliance, what should never stop to improve so are the blessing of God.this is what i understand .
January 11, 2010 at 12:34 am#169552GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 11 2010,08:56) G,
Since none agree to any depth with you are all here deaf and of carnal minds?
Or do you have a problem?
Nick……..Many have agree with things i have said here even you, So to make Lying stupid accusations , only shown you character, Hardly GODLY in my opinion as others have said to you also. Just answer the post without you stupid arrogant remakes (IF) YOU CAN> Show where what i posted is wrong instead of mouthing off about me and my understandings which GOD has given me. Show Proof of what you say for a change. No one here cares to hear you accusations of me or others. IMOJanuary 11, 2010 at 1:46 am#169561NickHassanParticipantG,
You have made some scripturally valid points on some matters at various times
But you do not rely on scripture when it comes to your pet ideas.
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