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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Oh.  Well this is why the thread is a good idea. I have always thought you believed that it was like the Trinity Doctrine, except with only two Gods in the one Godhead.

    Now it seems we are a lot closer than I thought we were, because I also believe that Jesus and his God are two individual gods.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    yes

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Wait, are you saying that Yahweh the Father and “Yahweh the Son” are two completely different living beings?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Hi Mike,

    Where did I say that a Yahweh Unity is “a singular living being” comprised of multiple persons?

    I understand Jeremiah 31:10 to be Israel as the singular masculine pronoun “him” in the passage.

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    Hey Berean, here’s another piece of evidence to support my theory that Satan was perfect in the Garden of Eden before he started messing with Adam and Eve…

    Luke 4:5-7… 5Then the devil led Him up to a high place and showed Him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6“I will give You authority over all these kingdoms and all the…[Read more]

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    Danny: Hi Mike,

    I believe you are right.
    Our God is indeed God of gods and Lord of lords.

    Thanks Danny.  It’s hard for Yahweh to be the God of gods if there don’t exist other gods for Him to be the God of, right?  Also hard for Him to be the Most High God if there don’t exist other less high gods.

    The fact that the Bible teaches about many go…[Read more]

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    Berean: As this text tells us, the war is between Michael (Jesus) and his angels and the Dragon (Satan) and his angels.

    And this war started in HEAVEN….and we know that it continued and continues on earth….
    ADAM AND EVE WERE THE FIRST VICTIMS OF THIS WAR ON EARTH….

    Hi Berean, I don’t believe Michael is Jesus.  I understand why some people (like t…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    I believe you are right.
    Our God is indeed God of gods and Lord of lords.

    “For Yahweh your God, he is God of gods and Lord of lords,
    the great God, the mighty, and the awesome,
    who doesn’t respect persons or take bribes.” Deuteronomy 10:17

    God bless

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    Gene:  Maybe we need to go back to elementary understanding again with you , ok , do you even know what a word even is?  To me and i assume the rest of the known world it means   an intellegent expression, rather in type or speech,  it’s still intellegent utterance.   Do you at least understand that? Yes or No please.

    I put this here so I don’t fo…[Read more]

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    Gene, you are pontificating (look it up) instead of directly and reasonably answering my questions – as per the Hot Seat rules of engagement.  Here’s where we’re at right now…

    1.  You have said that “the Word God is not a person, it is a description of your  (relationship),  with something, anything…”

    I’m asking you to prove that claim using…[Read more]

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    Mike: CARMEL, I’M ALSO WAITING FOR YOUR EXAMPLE OF THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” REFERRING TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN LITERAL DAYS.

     

    Carmel:   I’M AFRAID MR. RATIONAL,

    YOU ARE INVENTING THINGS WHICH I NEVER HAD THE LEAST INTENTION TO SAY, NEVER MIND I SAID SO, PLEASE SUBSTANTIATE YOUR POINT AND PRODUCE MY POSTING!

    Thank you for acknowledging that you n…[Read more]

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    Carmel: OK, Mike, the above INTRODUCTION is NOT referring to the heaven and the earth as such BUT specifically referring to THE GENERATIONS OF THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH!

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    Fortunately, Brown-Driver-Briggs has the very verse we’re talking about as one of their examples.  Gen 2:4 is speaking of the ACCOUNT of the heaven and earth, when they we…[Read more]

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    Mike…..Neather contradict each other,  both are true,  God’s is not a God to himself, he is a God to those who believe in him as their God.  But the one who is “my”  God and Jesus’s God , who is called YAHOVAH OR YAWAH “IS” OUR,  GOD , WHO’S words express “ONLY”  him, in the past and in the present.  Simple as that.

    Mike ,  you haven’t answere…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Jeremiah 31:9-11…  For I am Israel’s Father, and Ephraim is My firstborn.” Hear, O nations, the word of Yahweh, and proclaim it in distant coastlands: “He who scattered Israel will gather him and keep him as a shepherd keeps his flock. For Yahweh has ransomed Jacob and redeemed him from the hand that had overpowered him

    Do you unders…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    You: CARMEL, I’M ALSO WAITING FOR YOUR EXAMPLE……

    Me: I wish Mike, THAT YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

    FIRST YOU ARE NOT READY TO HEAR ANY NOVELS, THEN YOU DON’T WANT SCRIPTURAL EXAMPLES, NOW YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU

    AN EXAMPLE! OBVIOUS SCRIPTURAL, NO? 

    BUT HOW ON EARTH AM I GOING TO DO THAT, UNLESS I PRODUCE 
    A NOVEL, OR A SCR…[Read more]

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    Mike

    The fight is not only between Jesus and Satan – although they are both leaders in the battle that will take place.  The battle is between Jesus AND HIS ARMIES and Satan AND HIS ARMIES. 

    Me

    Ok

     

    I have known this for a long time….

    👇

    Revelation12

    And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Daily Devotional

    PREPARE THE WAY

    AN AMAZING FACT: What is the largest public works program since the pyramids in Egypt? It is probably the National Highway System in the United States. This project was named after President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who brought about its formation. Construction began in 1956 and was completed 35 years…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Here is one of several:

    Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

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    Hi Mike,

    You: CARMEL, IS GEN 2:4 SPEAKING OF TWO DIFFERENT HEAVENS AND EARTHS?  YES OR NO PLEASE?

    Me: FIRST AND FOREMOST;

    WITH YOUR QUESTION YOU CONFIRMED THAT YOU ARE NOT YET READY TO BE FED
    ON MEAT!
    NOW, YOUR QUESTION ABOVE IS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH TO BE ANSWERED, WITH JUST A SIMPLE
    YES OR NO
    FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THIS PARTICULAR VERSE IS…[Read more]

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    mikeboll64 replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 4 years ago

    Okay, what is the group example?

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