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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 05:29:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/lightenup/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Lightenup</a>,</p>
<p>I initially started a long response to what you said, but abandoned it. I will say this in response to what you wrote, in none of your response did you address the core issue; nothing written in Hebrews chapter one is about the Jesus! It&#8217;s a twisting of the Hebrew scripture to fit the Jesus.</p>
<p>When have you looked into the Jewish&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487889"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948114" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2026 00:42:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 spots in NT where more than 1 is called God or god-John 1:1-2Cor 4:4&#8211; At both spots the true God is called Ho Theos=The God&#8211;Both the Word and satan are called Theos=god in this scenario. Trinity error has God to the Word and god to satan, it cannot be translated both ways. It is 100% undeniable fact god is correct for both the Word&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487888"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948113" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 20:02:41 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>Your entire critique rests on a single assumption that is historically false:</p>
<p>You are comparing Hebrews to the medieval Masoretic Text (MT), finalized around 900–1000 AD.<br />
Hebrews is quoting the Septuagint (LXX), the Jewish Scriptures used in the first century.<br />
Every “corruption” you think you see is simply the LXX wording, not a Chr&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487887"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948112" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 15:11:52 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lightenup,</p>
<p>You understand Psalm 102 perfectly; why are you corrupting the meaning of it by applying it to the Jesus? It seems you are using the Hebrews 1:10-12 passage to claim G-d of the Tanakh and the Jesus of the NT are the same. To unpack what is being said in this chapter one needs to begin in verse 5, where this dialog begins? G-d is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487886"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948111" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 01:09:22 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/berean/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Berean</a>,</p>
<p>Wow what an intellectual response; you have made me more aware of who the jesus is&#8230;loads of sarcasm!</p>
<p>I explained the passage, how come you can’t give your thoughts on it? Repeating the words of the passages DOES NOT EXPLAIN HOW THE PASSAGE IS A REFERENCE TO THE jESUS!!!! How do you NOT understand that?!? Why does the &#8220;christian&#8221; h&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487885"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948110" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 17:37:50 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is a simple proverb; why make everything complicated? Now it’s your turn to explain how this passage relates to the Jesus.</em></p>
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who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?<img loading="lazy" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f449.svg" alt="👉" /> what is his name<img loading="lazy" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f448.svg" alt="👈" />, and <img loading="lazy" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f449.svg" alt="👉" />what is his son’s name<img loading="lazy" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/svg/1f448.svg" alt="👈" />, if thou canst tell?
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 12:57:40 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>In Psalm 102, the thing that “will be rolled up like a garment” is the created order itself—the heavens and the earth. Psalm 102:25–26 says that the heavens are the work of God’s hands, and that they “will perish,” and “will all wear out like a garment.”</p>
<p>The one who rolls them up (or “changes them like a robe”) is God—YHWH—the same&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487883"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948108" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 11:43:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/berean/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Berean</a>,</p>
<p>Not Proverbs 30&#8230;AGAIN!!!</p>
<p>Have you not read the passage with comprehension? Are we really using &#8220;pointy fingers&#8221; without explaining what you&#8217;re talking about?!!!?</p>
<p>Reading this passage we start with Agur speaking with two others and basically calls himself stupid. He then asks them four rhetorical questions; who has gone to heaven and&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487882"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948107" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 09:03:47 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man.</span><br />
<span> I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy.</span><br />
<span> Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth?&#x1f449;</span> what is his name&#x1f448;, <span>and&hellip;</span><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487881"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948106" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
				<link>https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948105</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 04:30:51 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/lightenup/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Lightenup</a>,</p>
<p>I guess you kind of answered the question of who or what will be rolled up; but who or what is the &#8220;they&#8221;? If it&#8217;s simply heaven and earth as the Psalm says, what is the writer of Hebrews getting at? The Psalm is speaking of G-d lasting longer than HIS creation as HE is eternal AND what does this have to do with the Jesus?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 04:06:59 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ lightenup,</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t answer the question; who or what will be folded up like a garment and be changed?</p>
<p>How can YHWY be both the Father and the son (aka lord)? Keith is onto something&#8230;</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 02:11:06 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/desiretruth/" rel="nofollow ugc">@DesireTruth</a></p>
<p>YHWH the Father of Jesus identified the Son as the YHWH as well in Hebrews 1:10-12.</p>
<p>Heaven and earth will be someday rolled up like a garment by the Son.</p>
<p>YHWH is both God and Lord</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 01:27:29 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/lightenup/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Lightenup</a>,</p>
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The theos of John 1:1b identifies the theos of John 1:1c as the YHWH who laid the foundation of the world and the heavens were the work of His hands and not only that but that as YHWH, this theos who is the Son, will at a future time, fold them up like a garment and they will be changed in Hebrews 1:10-12.<br />
Amazing!</p></blockquote>
<p>The Jesus is G-d of&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487877"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948102" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 16:30:18 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>THE USA IN BIBLE PROPHECY!!!</strong></p>
<p>At the height of the papacy&#8217;s power, its &#8220;iron teeth&#8221; fell upon Protestant Reformers. WHO PROTESTED THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES UNBIBLICAL TEACHINGS&#8230;.</p>
<p>Many of those who were not martyred, however, found a means of escape to the New World.</p>
<p>Revelation prophesied this exodus in the symbol of a faithful woman, who&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487876"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/daily-devotions/page/70/#post-948101" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 03:50:50 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/proclaimer/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Proclaimer</a></p>
<p>More from Origen:</p>
<p>1. Psalm 102 → Hebrews 1:10–12 applied to the Son<br />
Source: Contra Celsum 1.67<br />
“In speaking of the Son he says: ‘Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth…’”</p>
<p>2. Psalm 102 → The Son as Creator<br />
Source: De Principiis 1.2.2<br />
“The Son… is said in the Epistle to the Hebrews to have laid the found&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487875"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948100" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 03:30:26 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>The theos of John 1:1b identifies the theos of John 1:1c as the YHWH who laid the foundation of the world and the heavens were the work of His hands and not only that but that as YHWH, this theos who is the Son, will at a future time, fold them up like a garment and they will be changed in Hebrews 1:10-12.</p>
<p>Amazing!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2026 03:30:24 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>The theos of John 1:1b identifies the theos of John 1:1c as the YHWH who laid the foundation of the world and the heavens were the work of His hands and not only that but that as YHWH, this theos who is the Son, will at a future time, fold them up like a garment and they will be changed in Hebrews 1:10-12.</p>
<p>Amazing!</p>
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				<title>Admin replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 22:04:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One prominent scholar called Origen is sometimes quoted by Trinitarians who appeal to his wisdom for other purposes. However, they avoid this particular quotation for obvious reasons. Origen wrote in the early 200’s A.D and was a noted expert in Koine Greek.</p>
<p>“We next notice John’s use of the article  in these sentences. He does not write witho&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487872"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/john-11-who-is-the-word/page/1299/#post-948095" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2026 22:02:38 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>Are you claiming that Jesus — the theos who now has all authority in heaven and on earth — is a false god?</p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2026 21:25:50 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightenup&#8211; At John 1:1 the true God is called Ho Theos=The God&#8211;The Word is called Theos=god in that scenario as it occurs at 2 Cor 4:4 as well- So The true God=Jehovah gave Jesus(Word) authority. If Jesus were God he would already have had the authority.</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2026 20:13:54 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>Which “theos” was given all authority in heaven and on earth after the resurrection of Christ?</p>
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				<title>Berean replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings &#038; sermons</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:31:53 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><em><strong>Revelation does not leave the final conflict vague. It presents two women — two churches — standing in complete contrast.</strong></em></span><br />
The faithful church is identified as those “who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” Revelation 12:17. She stands on the Word of God, belongs to Christ, and suffers persecution because she rem&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487868"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/daily-devotions/page/70/#post-948089" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 16:52:02 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightenup&#8211;I said psalm 102 was Jehovah. No Jehovah is not the son. Jehovah is the sons God( John 20:17)</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 03:35:24 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>Thank you — you said the “You” in both Psalm 102 and Hebrews 1:10 is Jehovah.</p>
<p>So according to your own answer:</p>
<p>&#8211; The “You” in Psalm 102 = Jehovah<br />
&#8211; The “You” in Hebrews 1:10 = Jehovah<br />
&#8211; Hebrews 1:10 is spoken to the Son</p>
<p>Therefore the Father identifies the Son as Jehovah.</p>
<p>This is exactly the point I’ve been asking you to consider.</p>
<p>What&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487866"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948087" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 01:11:18 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighten up&#8211;Jehovah is mentioned in Psalm. When one applys bible facts, it can be said for both.</p>
<p>Most think the us at Gen 1:26 created, but verse 27 is clear only a he created, prov 8:27-28 backs it up-a he created, not the us. The us= Jehovah( architect, creator) and his master worker( Jesus( builder, not creator)Prov 8:30= The one who was&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487865"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948086" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2026 23:35:13 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>You are bringing up John 1:1 and 2 Corinthians 4:4, but those points don’t answer the specific question I asked you. That’s a discussion for another time.</p>
<p>Let’s stay with the passage I quoted, because it is the Father speaking, and the wording is identical to Psalm 102.</p>
<p>Hebrews 1:8 says clearly: “But about the Son He says…”&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487864"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948085" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2026 20:54:47 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighten up, I don&#8217;t need to relook. I showed you facts, you show the opposite of facts. Its why trinity based religions are such a mass of confusion, your translation is erred and altered by Catholicism translating. Like at John 1:1-There are only 2 spots in NT where more than 1 is called God and god-John 1:1-2Cor 4:4&#8211;The Word was NOT given the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487863"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948084" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>LU replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2026 04:17:00 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>I can tell that I was not clear enough with my post. I want to you look at Heb 1:10-14 and Psalm 102:25-28.</p>
<p>In Hebrews 1:10-12 we see that the Father is speaking about the Son when the Father says:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Hebrews 1:10 And:</strong></p>
<p><strong>“In the beginning, O Lord, You laid the foundations of the earth,</strong></p>
<p><strong>and the heavens are the work of Your hands. </strong><strong>11They w&hellip;</strong></p></blockquote>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2026 02:20:20 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightenup&#8211; Psalm 110:-Jehovah said to my Lord(Jesus) sit at my( not ours) right hand. Thus you are twisting heb 1&#8211;  Heb 1:4&#8211;Jesus inherited that name( Jesus, given to him by God) it made him better than the angels. If he didnt come to Earth, then it means he was equal to the angels( created)&#8211;Psalm 45:7-companions=angels.</p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 22:57:46 +1200</pubDate>

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<p>How do you define “Christians?”</p>
<p>Jehovah the Father—the One speaking to David’s Lord in Psalm 110:1—identifies His Son in Hebrews 1 with the Jehovah described in Psalm 102.</p>
<p>Psalm 110:1 shows Jehovah (the Father) speaking to someone distinct: “my Lord.”</p>
<p>Psalm 102 describes Jehovah as the eternal, unchanging Creator of heaven and earth.</p>
<p>H&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487860"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/lightenup-keith-discussion/#post-948081" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 20:18:32 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightenup&#8211; Yes JW,s are Christian. Psalm 110:1 assures Jesus is not Jehovah&#8211;  Jehovah( LORD) said to my Lord( Jesus), sit at my right hand until i make your enemies as a stool for your feet.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2026 06:44:13 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Islam is not the Antichrist.</strong><br />
Daniel 7 does not identify the Antichrist by general opposition to Christianity. It gives specific prophetic markers.</p>
<p>The Antichrist power is the little horn. It rises from the fourth beast, which represents Rome, and comes up among the ten horns, the divisions of Western Rome (Daniel 7:7–8, 24). That means it must a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487858"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/daily-devotions/page/70/#post-948079" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2026 18:17:43 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Donald Trump Praises Christianity’s “Tremendous” Comeback</strong><br />
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<p>On May 19, 2026—two days after the “Rededicate 250” event in Washington, D.C.—President Donald Trump announced during a press briefing that religion had increased during the first year of his second presidential term. He also asserted that Christianity is experiencing a “tremendous r&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487857"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/was-donald-chosen-by-god/page/43/#post-948078" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 02:17:40 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/keith/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Keith</a></p>
<p>One of my sons lives in NY also. I’m in TN, in the Bible Belt of America. 🙂</p>
<p>So you have been a JW basically all your life. Do JW’s say that they are Christians? Do you know where in the Bible it is written where God the Father identifies Jesus as Jehovah?</p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 00:28:47 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/keith/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Keith</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>Its called justice&#8211; A perfect mortal man sinned and lost a good standing with God for all his descendants.</p></blockquote>
<p>Adam was punished for his sin, but did G-d reject him for it? NO!!</p>
<blockquote><p>Justice = A perfect mortal man lived a sinless existence, yet paid in full the wages of sin he did not owe= the ransom sacrifice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you saying the Jesus lived a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487852"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/11/#post-948076" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:38:38 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lightenup. I live in NY state, The JW,s knocked on my parents door in 1961. I was 4 then. Where are you from? I like the 3 g,s&#8211;God, golf, guitar.</p>
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				<title>Keith replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:35:26 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>desiretruth&#8212; Jesus healed on the sabbath- They thought it was not allowed. The apostles picked grains of wheat on the sabbath, they thought it was not allowed. They twisted things.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:32:42 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiretruth&#8211;They rejected Jesus because they had haughty hearts and he told them they were wrong on many counts. A mere carpenters son telling the elite spiritual leaders they were wrong.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:30:50 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desiretruth- Its called justice&#8211; A perfect mortal man sinned and lost a good standing with God for all his descendants. Justice = A perfect mortal man lived a sinless existence, yet paid in full the wages of sin he did not owe= the ransom sacrifice. This opened the door to all mankind to go in through the narrow gate and have an opportunity to&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487848"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/11/#post-948072" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings &#038; sermons</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 22:05:08 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/berean/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Berean</a>,</p>
<p>Will any of this be forced on anyone? Will people be arrested and thrown in jail if they disagree will this bill?</p>
<p>Besides our national motto IS &#8220;In G-d We Trust.&#8221; Are you saying &#8220;We the People&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be placing our trust in G-d? Shouldn&#8217;t we have this on display to remind everyone where our trust should be? Oh wait, it&#8217;s printed on&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487847"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/daily-devotions/page/70/#post-948071" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 21:14:37 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span><strong>The Push to Advance America’s Religious Revival Through Federal Law Has Begun</strong></span><br />
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<p>The first of many federal efforts to strengthen America’s religious identity has begun. Rededicate 250—with its national Sunday worship ceremony and widespread calls for revival—was one major example of religion being elevated at the federal level. But these efforts&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487846"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/daily-devotions/page/70/#post-948070" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 18:37:01 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/proclaimer/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Proclaimer</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>The Old Testament does not explicitly say the Messiah comes twice.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely, so why do you believe the Jesus will come twice?</p>
<blockquote><p>But there appears to be two phases in the prophecies. A suffering and rejection, then later glory and kingship.</p></blockquote>
<p>“Suffering and rejection” of whom; to be later awarded “glory and kingship”? The sufferi&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487845"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/11/#post-948069" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 03:30:30 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/keith/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Keith</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p>They listened to Law( but added to many burdens along with those laws) their hearts were haughty, not humble as should have been.</p></blockquote>
<p>What examples do you have of them adding to the law; Moses warned of adding or taking away from the law (Deut 4:2). There hearts were “haughty” and not “humble”, where do we read this?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 11:42:13 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kieth,</p>
<blockquote><p>Jesus said the Israelite spiritual leaders father was the devil. It has not changed as long as they reject the Messiah.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why did the religious leaders reject the Jesus?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 11:39:04 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kieth,</p>
<p>Where we left of I asked if you could provide a passage that says the innocent can take the responsibility of the guilty. I also asked to provide a passage where G-d says he was sending someone to take on the sins mankind and be a moderator on their behalf (G-d only spoke in the Tanakh, so it has to be found there and not in the NT). Have&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487842"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/11/#post-948066" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Proclaimer replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts &#038; Translations</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 06:49:27 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Old Testament does not explicitly say the Messiah comes twice. But there appears to be two phases in the prophecies. A suffering and rejection, then later glory and kingship. Judaism generally does not read these as two separate comings of the same Messiah, whereas logically speaking, it would normally take at least two phases.<br />
Rejected<br />
Isaiah&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-487841"><a href="https://heavennet.net/forums/topic/one-god-and-one-lord/page/11/#post-948065" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="https://heavennet.net/?p=948058" rel="nofollow ugc">Jesus Outside the Bible</a></strong>The Top Ten Historical References  A countdown of the top ten historical references to Jesus from outside the Bible. While some still claim that Jesus <a href="https://heavennet.net/?p=948058" rel="nofollow ugc"><span></span></a></p>
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				<title>Lightenup replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 05:07:49 +1200</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://heavennet.net/members/keith/" rel="nofollow ugc">@Keith</a><br />
Hi Keith, thanks for joining me over here. Could you tell me a little about yourself like when you became a JW and anything you would like me to know about you? Do you live in the States?</p>
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