Mike: Yes. When God created the raqia and named it heaven, it was the ONLY heaven. As time went by, God’s people started differentiating between the place where the clouds are (the first heaven), the raqia where the luminaries are (the second heaven – second in height, but still first in existence), and the dwelling place of God (the third and hig…

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Hi to all

Hère is the Daily Devotional
Gift of God’s Love, 
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16. 

How can we understand God? How are we to know our Father? We are to call Him by the endearing name of Father. And how are we to kn…[Read more]

Mike …..Heres one for you,  Satan your mentor said,  that they wouldn’t die  when they eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, right? BUT God said they would die “in “the day, ” they ate of it,  but you see they never died in a 24 hour day after they ate of it now did they? But they certanily did die within a thousand years aft…[Read more]

Proclaimer……To me the simplest way of saying it is, heaven is  the sky above. The clouds are in the sky, the coulds are made up of water, being condensed from a gas of h2o, to a liquid state, and when they get heavy enough,  the accumalated water rains on the earth as liquid water, and as it decends, if it gets below a certain tempture level i…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

So Matthew is a liar then and the bible is not reliable? Please directly address the fact that Matthew says he is giving us THE BOOK OF Jesus’s GENESIS/ORIGIN the book of his GENEA/GENETIC LINE where that book that he gives goes from Abraham to Joseph.

Can you concede that it is possible for Mary to be found with child of Joseph’s…[Read more]

Must answer question
What is the Hebrew word for heaven or heavens?

Are you stupid?

A day is not like a day for us.

It’s a scripture.

Not three raqias, Pretender, but three heavens.  The raqia is the firmament, and there is only one of those. The luminaries are IN it, and the waters are ABOVE it.

WRONG!

Let there be a raqia in the midst of the waters , and let it separate the waters from the waters. And God made the raqia, and separated the waters which were below the…[Read more]

Pretender: There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second heaven.

And God is in the raqia, but the third heaven.

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Pretender, your “pagan religion” meme is not very good for your cause.  First of all, it makes a stronger argument for “firmament” than for “expanse”.

Secondly, even IF you want to use “expanse”, you still have to determine what the waters ABOVE THE EXPANSE are.  Remember, they are not IN the expanse… but ABOVE the expanse.

And thirdly, you s…[Read more]

Danny: @t8 @genebalthrop

Yes, God called the raqia heaven. But there are three heavens. (2 Corinthians 12:2)
I agree with Mike and Berean that the raqia is not the highest heaven.

Yes.  When God created the raqia and named it heaven, it was the ONLY heaven.  As time went by, God’s people started differentiating between place where the clouds are…[Read more]

Mike:  The alleged tilt brings the North Pole 3000 miles CLOSER to the sun at the very time the earth itself is 3,000,000 miles FARTHER from the sun… yet the tiny tilt is supposed to overcome the HUGE increase in distance from the heat source, and somehow make it WARMER? Only an idiot would believe such nonsense.

 

Pretender: Mike, stop pe…

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Great additional support, Berean!  Here’s some more…

Psalm 148 is broken into 2 parts The first part deals with heaven and the things associated with heaven…

1Hallelujah!

Praise the LORD from the heavens; praise Him in the highest places.

2Praise Him, all His angels; praise Him, all His heavenly hosts.

3Praise Him, O sun and moon; praise…[Read more]

YOU and I, and many other videos,  you have posted, have shown him hundreds of proof that his “flat earth” bs,  is wrong, and is being proven constantly wrong by “true” science every single day,  for all to see for themselves. He refuses to accept he is wrong, no matter how much proof is given him.

That’s right gene.

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Jodi: Yes, I can concede that is not how people speak or write when they are saying someone is the father of someone, but as said, Luke isn’t talking about just any father and son.

Who or what the person is talking about doesn’t matter, Jodi.  Let’s suppose for argument’s sake that Jesus was God’s literal firstborn son – higher than any being who…[Read more]

@dannyd @berean

Ahhh, dabbs, you are getting it now. Berean missed the point.

There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of/ek/from/by the Holy Ghost.

Would not Joseph assume that Mary had laid with another man, which would be the reason why…[Read more]

Mike,

I have made it very clear that 1. Mary was a virgin when she conceived and 2., she was FOUND with child ek/by the Holy Spirit. How else is a virgin going to conceive if not by the power of the Highest?

Matthew gives us the BOOK of Jesus’s GENESIS, his GENETIC LINE and that book goes from Abraham to Joseph, you are just going to deny this,…[Read more]

Jodi:  Mary became pregnant by the seed of Joseph where the Holy Spirit came upon her and the power of the Highest  Spirit overshadowed whereby Matthews words true.

I don’t understand.  Walk me through your idea, keeping in mind that Joseph didn’t sleep with Mary until after Jesus was born, and that the angel CLEARLY told Joseph that the child in…[Read more]

Jodi: Here is one,

Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

In the OT in Isaiah 11:10 this word root/ sheresh figurately means, of people involving firmness or permanence.

Try this version…

New American Standard Bible
Again Isa…[Read more]