• Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Jodi,

    You: born of the Spirit that descended upon him like a dove,

    Me: I’m afraid Jodi your preaching is ONLY in relation to your carnal-minded understanding regarding Jesus’ entire DIVINE/HUMAN process. A process commenced at the very beginning John1:1-4.

    In the above, YOU ARE FALSELY PREACHING THAT

    JESUS WAS BORN OF THE SPIRIT AT THE…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Jodi

    This was all God’s WORD before the world began. God had declared the END from the beginning where a man would execute His purpose.

    Me: It’s pointless to make such long posts, all to try WITHOUT ACHIEVE, that Jesus is only a man.

    Jodi, since he WAS MADE FLESH, HE WAS NOT FLESH IN THE BEGINNING. PAUL TELLS US CLEARLY THAT HE WAS “IN THE F…[Read more]

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    In my experience, adherence to the Trinity Doctrine includes believing it for salvation. Yet when you challenge the doctrine and salvation according to them, they cannot support their views with scripture.

    Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.

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    Great to see you searching this out as that is how we discover truth. Truth is discovered and harder to come by than we think. We often think truth is just taught to us as tradition.

    Have you read this on the Trinity? It is enlightening as to what the scriptures really say.

    Who is the Most High God? – The Trinity Doctrine

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    To Berean and All,

    This one scripture below leads us to a great deal of light when applied to so many other passages and so I will be repeating it throughout this post.

    Ephesians 5: 9 <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth.</span>

    Acts 17:24 <span style=”color: #008000;”>God that…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    Thank you for the welcome. The trinity has been a contention for me starting about 6 months ago. Prior to that I never questioned it. The question I asked Carmel about the salvation aspect was because this was something taught and believed in a “church” I attended and has prompted me to question the truthfulness of the trinity…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    Thanks for your reply, I hope you are having a good week.

    Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

    Jesus did not promise…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi, Berean,

    You: Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus

    Me: John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man who is in heaven. 

    From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also, while He was o…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    To all
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with (thé)God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer,  exactly right,  but those who try to make Jesus appear different then we are,  in our relationship to him,  and God the Father , like trinitarians and others are teaching , by their “DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION”,  they are the servants and ministers of Satan himself,  there are many out there, only a few, are teaching the “true word of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    Proclaimer, Jesus isn’t a prototype son, He is an example as a son but not the same type as us

    But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.

    He came in the flesh t…[Read more]

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    @dannyd

    Look we get it. You cannot understand science. That is not a sin. But acknowledging your shortfalls and weaknesses is a good thing. It means your humble. But when you think you know something that you do not, that comes from pride.

    How about we stick to something simple. I am sure you could perform this experiment yourself. Follow along…[Read more]

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    @rjuel

    Gidday and welcome.

    Belief in the trinity is not essential for salvation. It is written nowhere in scripture. Salvation is simply living for God. Doing what he wants and declaring your faith.

    The core message of the New Testament is that God sent his son into the world. Believe upon him and listen to him.

    The Trinity Doctrine developed…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     
    WHAT WAS THE DISTRESSING SPIRIT FROM THE LORD THAT TROUBLED SAUL?
    Because King Saul was no longer listening to the Lord (1 Samuel 15:26), Samuel—at God’s direction—anointed David as king in Saul’s place. Then “the spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward” (1 Samuel 16:13). In verse 14, i…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Carmel

    Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus
    2) John the Baptist is Michael
    Thanks

    🙏

     

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    @Carmel,

    Thank you for your response. The “not really” however confuses me. So in some aspect it does matter whether we believe in the trinity concerning our salvation?

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    DesireTruth

    @ Carmel,

    I realize I am joining this discussion late; however, the topic of the “trinity” has been one that has troubled me recently.

    So I must begin by asking: do you believe our salvation is dependent upon believing the trinity?

    No Not really! Read hereunder please.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, as to give his only beg…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    You: What a BEGINNING?

    Before or when our World WAS created?

    Or the BEGINNING OF the incarnated  SON OF GOD?

    Me: THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED!

    You: If 1 , the Son WAS NOT in the flesh but in the form of God, AND HIS NAME WAS NOT JESUS BUT ” THE WORD OF GOD”

    He was in the flesh and His name was Jesus, BUT…[Read more]

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