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    Hi Berean,

    Thanks for your reply, I hope you are having a good week.

    Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

    Jesus did not promise…[Read more]

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    Hi, Berean,

    You: Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus

    Me: John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man who is in heaven. 

    From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also, while He was o…[Read more]

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    To all
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with (thé)God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of GeneBalthrop

    Proclaimer,  exactly right,  but those who try to make Jesus appear different then we are,  in our relationship to him,  and God the Father , like trinitarians and others are teaching , by their “DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION”,  they are the servants and ministers of Satan himself,  there are many out there, only a few, are teaching the “true word of…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer, Jesus isn’t a prototype son, He is an example as a son but not the same type as us

    But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.

    He came in the flesh t…[Read more]

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    @dannyd

    Look we get it. You cannot understand science. That is not a sin. But acknowledging your shortfalls and weaknesses is a good thing. It means your humble. But when you think you know something that you do not, that comes from pride.

    How about we stick to something simple. I am sure you could perform this experiment yourself. Follow along…[Read more]

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    @rjuel

    Gidday and welcome.

    Belief in the trinity is not essential for salvation. It is written nowhere in scripture. Salvation is simply living for God. Doing what he wants and declaring your faith.

    The core message of the New Testament is that God sent his son into the world. Believe upon him and listen to him.

    The Trinity Doctrine developed…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     
    WHAT WAS THE DISTRESSING SPIRIT FROM THE LORD THAT TROUBLED SAUL?
    Because King Saul was no longer listening to the Lord (1 Samuel 15:26), Samuel—at God’s direction—anointed David as king in Saul’s place. Then “the spirit of the Lord came upon David from that day forward” (1 Samuel 16:13). In verse 14, i…[Read more]

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    Hi Carmel

    Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus
    2) John the Baptist is Michael
    Thanks

    🙏

     

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Carmel,

    Thank you for your response. The “not really” however confuses me. So in some aspect it does matter whether we believe in the trinity concerning our salvation?

  • Profile picture of carmel

    DesireTruth

    @ Carmel,

    I realize I am joining this discussion late; however, the topic of the “trinity” has been one that has troubled me recently.

    So I must begin by asking: do you believe our salvation is dependent upon believing the trinity?

    No Not really! Read hereunder please.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, as to give his only beg…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    You: What a BEGINNING?

    Before or when our World WAS created?

    Or the BEGINNING OF the incarnated  SON OF GOD?

    Me: THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED!

    You: If 1 , the Son WAS NOT in the flesh but in the form of God, AND HIS NAME WAS NOT JESUS BUT ” THE WORD OF GOD”

    He was in the flesh and His name was Jesus, BUT…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @ Carmel,

    I realize I am joining this discussion late; however, the topic of the “trinity” has been one that has troubled me recently.

    So I must begin by asking: do you believe our salvation is dependent upon believing the trinity?

    DesireTruth

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    Hi Carmel

    Berean, God all-knowing, Jesus, was A SON OF MAN from the beginning, to be clear,….

    Me

    What a BIGINNING ?

    Before or when our World WAS created?

    Or the BIGINNING OF the incarnated  SON OF GOD ?

    If 1 , the Son WAS NOT in the flesh but in the form of God, AND HIS NAME WAS NOT JESUS BUT ” THE WORD OF GOD” OR MICHAEL 👉…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional
    PERSEVERE (DESMOND DOSS)
    After being drafted, Desmond Doss’ refusal to bear arms gave his commanders fits, and his fellow soldiers often used the meek misfit as a punching bag. He believed his Christian faith forbade the taking of lives and promoted their saving. He always kept his Bible close by but r…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    You: Of course the name of THE SON OF GOD “IN THE BEGINNING” was not Jesus, for Jesus is his name WHEN HE WAS MADE FLESH.

    Berean, God all-knowing, Jesus, was A SON OF MAN from the beginning, to be clear,

    THE EMBODIMENT OF GOD, THE ONLY IMAGE OF GOD, THE ONLY FORM AND SHAPE OF GOD; IN ONE GLORY WITH THE FATHER.UNKNOWN TO THE ENT…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Lu,

     

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Jesus did not inherit the nations until he returned to the Father </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>on the the day Psalms 2 refers to, the day of his resurrection.</span>

    Me: THAT’S ONLY YOUR UNDERSTANDING! WITH EVERY RESPECT!

    Psalm 2 DOES NOT REFER TO JESUS’INHEIRTANCE ON HIS…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Lu,

    You: Jesus is not the Father.

    Me: WHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT PLEASE?

    But to make you sure of WHAT I BELIEVE, read please:

    JESUS IS OUR FATHER AND GOD FROM THE HUMAN SIDE POINT OF VIEW AS MUCH AS GOD THE FATHER IS OUR FATHER FROM THE SPIRIT SIDE POINT OF VIEW. NO?

    GOD, THE FATHER IS SPIRIT!

    GOD, THE SON IS BOTH SPIRIT AND…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Lu,

    You: Jesus was always perfect.

    Me:  Read Lu what I posted please:

    Now THE SON OF MAN who died on the cross was PERFECT and IN ONE INSTANT, He was both DEAD and in full GLORY as

    THE ONLY TRUE  GOD ON EARTH!

    On the other hand, THE SON OF MAN who resurrected was NOT PERFECT AS ONLY GOD IS PERFECT,

    I NEVER SAID THAT JESUS IS NOT P…[Read more]

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