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    Carmel

    HE WAS IN THE HEART OF GOD !

    BUT NOT WITH HIS HUMAN BODY

    But that’s not really the important point…

    THE NAME OF JESUS IN THE BEGINNING IWAS”THE WORD OF GOD”
    BECAUSE GOD CREATE BY HIM ALL THINGS.
    👉 JOHN 1

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  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Berean,

    John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man who is in heaven.

    Me: From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also,

    while He was on earth He also was in heaven.

    Berean, according to Jesus above,  THE SON OF MAN, was both in heaven and on…[Read more]

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    Jodi,  good try Sis, , but your words from scriptures frll on deat ears, just as the wouds i quoited did.  Sad…

    Peace and love to you and yours Jodi,……..gene

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    To continue with more of Phil 2

    7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Berean,

    I know what you believe and my purpose is giving you scripture to show you how it is in error. But you continue to ignore those scriptures, you refuse to discuss them.

    Tell me what those divine attributes that your pre-existing Jesus left behind were? 

    John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but…[Read more]

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    Jodi

    For the symbolic hundredth time I tell you that I do not believe in a purely human but divine-human Christ who put aside his divine attributes and who lived as a simple man by the HOLY SPIRIT surely.

    Who, being IN THE FORM OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
    But made himself of no reputation, and TOOK UPON HIM the form of…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Berean,

    How about in my long post yesterday don’t read my own statements given at the end, but just read slowly and carefully through the scriptures I gave. I hope that is not too much to ask.

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Carmel

    Me: Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus

    You: John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man who is in heaven.

    From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also, while He was on e…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Berean,

    I am going to make this one as short as possible.

    Biblical facts,

    The Son of Man is coming in the glory of the Father where he makes righteous judgements through the Spirit of the Father that is dwelling in him, to which we read he received the Holy Spirit according to a PROMISE when he was raised from the dead. That promise was God’s…[Read more]

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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     
    WHAT DOES JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAYS BELIEVERS WILL SPEAK WITH NEW TONGUES?
    Christ’s promise to His believers begins with the command, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature” (v. 15). In order to fulfill this great commission, followers then and now have needed help. Since there are s…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi Jodi,

    You: born of the Spirit that descended upon him like a dove,

    Me: I’m afraid Jodi your preaching is ONLY in relation to your carnal-minded understanding regarding Jesus’ entire DIVINE/HUMAN process. A process commenced at the very beginning John1:1-4.

    In the above, YOU ARE FALSELY PREACHING THAT

    JESUS WAS BORN OF THE SPIRIT AT THE…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi Jodi

    This was all God’s WORD before the world began. God had declared the END from the beginning where a man would execute His purpose.

    Me: It’s pointless to make such long posts, all to try WITHOUT ACHIEVE, that Jesus is only a man.

    Jodi, since he WAS MADE FLESH, HE WAS NOT FLESH IN THE BEGINNING. PAUL TELLS US CLEARLY THAT HE WAS “IN THE F…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    In my experience, adherence to the Trinity Doctrine includes believing it for salvation. Yet when you challenge the doctrine and salvation according to them, they cannot support their views with scripture.

    Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.

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    Great to see you searching this out as that is how we discover truth. Truth is discovered and harder to come by than we think. We often think truth is just taught to us as tradition.

    Have you read this on the Trinity? It is enlightening as to what the scriptures really say.

    Who is the Most High God? – The Trinity Doctrine

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    To Berean and All,

    This one scripture below leads us to a great deal of light when applied to so many other passages and so I will be repeating it throughout this post.

    Ephesians 5: 9 <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth.</span>

    Acts 17:24 <span style=”color: #008000;”>God that…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer,

    Thank you for the welcome. The trinity has been a contention for me starting about 6 months ago. Prior to that I never questioned it. The question I asked Carmel about the salvation aspect was because this was something taught and believed in a “church” I attended and has prompted me to question the truthfulness of the trinity…[Read more]

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  • Profile picture of Jodi

    Hi Berean,

    Thanks for your reply, I hope you are having a good week.

    Titus 1:1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

    Jesus did not promise…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of carmel

    Hi, Berean,

    You: Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
    1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus

    Me: John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

    the Son of man who is in heaven. 

    From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also, while He was o…[Read more]

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