Gene
If “the word” are only spoken wordswhy then John said:
AND THE WORD WAS GOD
GENE ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD, NOT SPOKEN WORDS EVEN IF THEY COME FROM GOD.
When God speaks, only GOD IS GOD NOT HIS WORDS.
Berean God and his words are one and the same person, just as you and your word are you.  No one can be another person’s words, common sens…[Read more]

Hi LU,

Continuing on,

In verse 5,  Paul is leading up to giving us the attitude/mind of the anointed Jesus and saying to those he is speaking to that they need to be of that same attitude/mind that the anointed Jesus had.

Is Paul asking for these men to be of the same attitude of a pre-existing Jesus who existed in the form of God or is Paul…[Read more]

Good Morning LU,

Sorry I missed seeing your post and question earlier and thank you for kind words. I am hanging in there! Hope you are doing well.

YOU:

I would like to know your understanding of what the One who existed in the form of God emptied himself of as spoken of in Philippians 2:

5Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in…[Read more]

Posting this to remind myself to watch it later.

Don’t know if it will be any good, but it is about the Word of God.

The guys speaking did a good job on another subject, so will see what his view is on this subject.

Hi DesireTruth

Welcome to the forum

In John 1:1 it is written that “THE WORD” was God.

As I said to Gene recently words spoken BY GOD cannot be God, ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD.

HERE IN JOHN 1:1 IT CAN ONLY REFER TO THE SON OF GOD WHO WAS WITH GOD IN THE BIGINNING.

IN JOHN 17:5 WE HAVE A CONFIRMATION THAT HE WAS WITH GOD BEFORE THE FOUNDING…[Read more]

@ Jodi,

Thank you for the welcome. This has been an amazing and an eye opening journey. I don’t claim to have all the answers, but I do have a lot thoughts and even more questions. Looking forward to participating in the conversations here and possibly offering up some new thoughts in the process.

Why the moon disproves the flat earth
What is your explanation dabber?

No one gave a concise answer to why John didn’t just say “Jesus” in the opening of the book, why use “word”. Do our biases add to confusion and make it more difficult to understand? I think the reason for no concise answer is we really don’t know why John wrote the beginning like he did – I do have a thought for later. I believe, as Gene does, tha…[Read more]

Welcome Desire Truth!

Nice to see someone new and I’m loving your spirit and also your profile name.

One reason why I enjoy this forum is because it definitely does cause me to dig deeper also.

Looking forward to more posts by you, hope you stick around.

Hi Gene,

You: Desire truth………Simple,  you need to just believe what Jesus told us and you have your answer,   Jesus said  (not me)…..“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me”.  Simple as that,  those that believe Jesus know by Jesus’ own words, he, “himelf” is not the words of God himself, he was quoting as…[Read more]

Gene

If “the word” are only spoken words
why then John said:

AND THE WORD WAS GOD

GENE ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD, NOT SPOKEN WORDS EVEN IF THEY COME FROM GOD.

When God speaks, only GOD IS GOD NOT HIS WORDS.

🙏

Gene

False religion has changed the text to try to make it appear as though the word,  “word” was a individual person, by Captializing it.  

Me

Can you seriously prove this?
I doubt.
But always try.

🙏

Desire truth………Simple,  you need to just believe what Jesus told us and you have your answer,   Jesus said  (not me)…..“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me”.  Simple as that,  those that believe Jesus know by Jesus’ own words, he, “himelf” is not the words of God himself, he was quoting as a [Read more]

Flat earthers claim they can bring back boats using a zoom lens, although globies say such were never over the horizon to begin with. They were just too small to see in the first place. So my question is this. Why has no flat earther shown a video of the sun being brought back into view with a zoom lens after it has set and disappeared?

No flat…[Read more]

Hi, Desire Truth,

You: I had some questions that started me on this journey: can anyone explain why John would call Jesus the “word” verses using his name directly? Why would John be so “cryptic” in the opening of the book; yet, use plain language in the rest?

Me: To me John is not that cryptic at all, for the simple reason that John, was AS…[Read more]

I had some questions that started me on this journey: can anyone explain why John would call Jesus the “word” verses using his name directly? Why would John be so “cryptic” in the opening of the book; yet, use plain language in the rest?

Because it is a revelation.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servant…[Read more]

Yes 20 years. Multiply that by 100 and you have 2000 years and that is how long people have been debating this subject.

I was here in this forum 20 years ago, but many have left and many have joined in this conversation over the years.

WOW!!!!

This debate concerning who the “word” is in John 1:1 has been going on for almost 20 years, almost 24,000 comments, and still no agreement of who or what the “word” is! We have this side pitted against that side, with both sides claiming they are correct. This is insane! It’s like we have traveled back in time to 325AD and are sitting at…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel…….There is no sound teaching in you, you have been deceived for so long and trying to change what our Bible text says, so long  ,  I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone so screwed up as you are.  It may be because you actually believe you have the Spirit of truth “in” you , but no one with the “Spirit of truth”,  …[Read more]