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    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     

    DOUG BATCHELOR THE RICHEST CAVEMAN PART 3

    There may be as many as 4,200 different religions in the world—and Doug went through quite a few of them.

    After his supernatural comeuppance, Doug, convinced that God existed, was terrified. He had heard of heaven and hell and, with the way things were going i…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago

    @desiretruth

     

    Come on, let’s restart from zero

    The first chapter of the first book of the Bible mentions the presence of the Son of God with the Father.

    And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness….

    LET US MAKE MAN….

    You think that God speaks to the angels, I do not believe it because the angels collaborated in…[Read more]

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    @ Proclaimer,

    For me there is only a right and wrong, no maybe; it’s black and white, no gray; pick a side of the fence, can’t exist on both sides at the same time nor straddle it; and there is no middle of the road. So the truth will never be in the middle. If you want to call it “extreme”, so be it; I call it a truth or a lie.

    Neither example…[Read more]

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    I will challenge you or anyone to scripturally prove Christ preexistence in the old testament. Why do you believe what you believe? Take a stand.

    Why not make the same challenge for the New Testament?

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    This entire conversation is a circle, it’s the same argument for the last 20 years. One side pitted against the other and both sides having the mindset of “I’m right and your wrong.” Always repeating the same thing. Either Christ preexisted or he didn’t; one belief is wrong and the other correct, both can’t be right.

    Exactly. Except I am challeng…[Read more]

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    Equal to the Father is wrong for sure.

    However, being just a man who was born 2000 years ago is also wrong.

    Like many things, the truth is in neither extreme.

    What we know from scripture is this.

    He existed in the form of God (not as God himself), emptied himself, came in the flesh, was born and grew like any one of us (lived as a man – had to…[Read more]

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    @ Berean,

    “The real “nuts and bolts” of this entire conversation comes down to whether or not we understand scripture from a Jewish or a Nicean perspective.”

    Which perspective are you using to understand scripture? The Adventists “belief” page mimics the Nicean Creed, case and point. Then to use a blanket statement of those who don’t believe the…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 3 months ago

    @desiretruth

    I will challenge you or anyone to scripturally prove Christ preexistence in the old testament. Why do you believe what you believe? Take a stand.

     

    No one has ever proven
    that Christ did not pre-exist.
    The proofs that he pre-existed exist, but they are denied purely and simply. And that is the work of the Enemy of Souls.

    🙏

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    Jodi replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 3 months ago

    Good Morning All,

    We are not robots nor puppets, we are given the freedom to make our own choices, but choices are made through what has influenced us, of which there is much therein that we did not have control over or say in. 

    We also are NOT self-righteous, just as Jesus said, “only God is good”, the fruit of His Spirit is in all good…[Read more]

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    YOU SAID,  NOT ME…………..13 And lead us not into temptation.
    But deliver us from evil. Amen.

    Gene, literally speaking, (JESUS SAID NOT ME)

    GOD LEADS US INTO TEMPTATION!

    NOW, WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE OF THE ABOVE WORDS BY JESUS?

    I AM WAITING, WHO KNOWS?

    I responded that interruption was wrong,  why? ,  because James said God tempts no man,  and I eve…[Read more]

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    @ Proclaimer,

    This entire conversation is a circle, it’s the same argument for the last 20 years. One side pitted against the other and both sides having the mindset of “I’m right and your wrong.” Always repeating the same thing. Either Christ preexisted or he didn’t; one belief is wrong and the other correct, both can’t be right.

    The real “nuts…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    Hi to all

    Here is the Daily Devotional

     

    DOUG BATCHELOR THE RICHEST CAVEMAN, PART 2 

    Despite the stereotype, many burglaries actually occur during broad daylight. Just ask Doug Batchelor, who spent his time in Boston, ironically, as a thief during the day and a security guard at night.

    He had a fake driver’s license; he had rented an ap…[Read more]

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    Another prominent flat earther admits he was wrong
    Not looking too good for those few who are still hanging onto the lie.

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    Proclaimer. ……by separation Jesus from the rest of humanity, you are creating another inanity different from us.

    Still making this false claim. If I believe that he existed in the form of God  emptying himself of all advantage and coming in the flesh bthen living as a baby like us and growing into an adult like us  then how is it exactly that…[Read more]

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    Like Mike, you have been debunked so much that most people would have at least questioned their beliefs by now. But not yourself and Mike. Are you aware that the Flat Earth movement has sunk. I guess many adherents just realised after a while how foolish a belief it was.

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    I notice that you have not posted a video of you bringing back the sun. What is the delay?

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    While Newton’s membership was largely intellectual, his scientific achievements and contributions were not directly related to his membership in the organization. In fact, he is widely considered to be one of the most important figures in the history of Christian thought. He wrote extensively on theological topics, including a treatise on the…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 3 months ago

    Hi Gene,

    You: But , YOU SAID , IT WAS God who tempts us.   Proven wrong again Carmel !

    Me: WHERE IN MY POST DID I EVER SAY OR EVEN MEANT THAT PLEASE?

    Temptations are incessant, and they are PERMITTED by God,

    AS IN THE CASE OF JOB,

    to justify that we are God’s children in Christ and SPIRITUALLY destroy the devil’s work THAT COMES FROM THE…[Read more]

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    @proclaimer

    The existing laws of density and buoyancy perfectly explained the physics of falling objects long before knighted Freemason “Sir” Isaac Newton bestowed his theory of “gravity” upon the world.

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