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    Lightenup– At John 1:1 the true God is called Ho Theos=The God–The Word is called Theos=god in that scenario as it occurs at 2 Cor 4:4 as well- So The true God=Jehovah gave Jesus(Word) authority. If Jesus were God he would already have had the authority.

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 5 days ago

    Lightenup–I said psalm 102 was Jehovah. No Jehovah is not the son. Jehovah is the sons God( John 20:17)

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    Lighten up–Jehovah is mentioned in Psalm. When one applys bible facts, it can be said for both.

    Most think the us at Gen 1:26 created, but verse 27 is clear only a he created, prov 8:27-28 backs it up-a he created, not the us. The us= Jehovah( architect, creator) and his master worker( Jesus( builder, not creator)Prov 8:30= The one who was…[Read more]

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 1 week, 1 day ago

    Lighten up, I don’t need to relook. I showed you facts, you show the opposite of facts. Its why trinity based religions are such a mass of confusion, your translation is erred and altered by Catholicism translating. Like at John 1:1-There are only 2 spots in NT where more than 1 is called God and god-John 1:1-2Cor 4:4–The Word was NOT given the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup– Psalm 110:-Jehovah said to my Lord(Jesus) sit at my( not ours) right hand. Thus you are twisting heb 1–  Heb 1:4–Jesus inherited that name( Jesus, given to him by God) it made him better than the angels. If he didnt come to Earth, then it means he was equal to the angels( created)–Psalm 45:7-companions=angels.

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    Keith replied to the topic Lightenup/Keith Discussion in the forum Debates 2 weeks ago

    Lightenup– Yes JW,s are Christian. Psalm 110:1 assures Jesus is not Jehovah–  Jehovah( LORD) said to my Lord( Jesus), sit at my right hand until i make your enemies as a stool for your feet.

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    Hi Lightenup. I live in NY state, The JW,s knocked on my parents door in 1961. I was 4 then. Where are you from? I like the 3 g,s–God, golf, guitar.

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    desiretruth— Jesus healed on the sabbath- They thought it was not allowed. The apostles picked grains of wheat on the sabbath, they thought it was not allowed. They twisted things.

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    Desiretruth–They rejected Jesus because they had haughty hearts and he told them they were wrong on many counts. A mere carpenters son telling the elite spiritual leaders they were wrong.

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    Desiretruth- Its called justice– A perfect mortal man sinned and lost a good standing with God for all his descendants. Justice = A perfect mortal man lived a sinless existence, yet paid in full the wages of sin he did not owe= the ransom sacrifice. This opened the door to all mankind to go in through the narrow gate and have an opportunity to…[Read more]

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    Lightenup, I would be happy to discuss bible truth with you. You can start, ask a question please.

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    Desire truth–Jesus said the Israelite spiritual leaders father was the devil. It has not changed as long as they reject the Messiah.

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    0 doubt in all creation, Jesus IS the Messiah. He told those spiritual leaders back in his day-Your Father is the devil-Why? Because they were apostatized, They listened to Law( but added to many burdens along with those laws) their hearts were haughty, not humble as should have been.

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    Desire truth.   There are still some prophecy’s that Jesus will fulfill at the proper time. It will not go undone.

    Few have seen the prophecy in Daniel 4 fulfilled over 100 years ago=Rev6:2–He receives his crown. The prophecy was 2520 days after the last king sat on the throne. But using a year for a day in that prophecy one gets 2520 years it t…[Read more]

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    Jesus is the Messiah. Gods son. God sent him( John 3:16)= God did not come down here.

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    Lightenup–It is prophesied that Jesus would come through Davids lineage, Solomon is his Davids son. It could be any son of Davids. As long as its Davids lineage. Solomon was king though, so it may be through his line because of that.

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    A horn = a kingdom( govt, armies, supporters)-10 horns( a place where kingdoms gather)  the one that was( league of nations) is not( death stroke= done away with after ww1) and yet is( united nations( death stroke got healed)– the 2 horned beast = 2 kingdoms working together as the final world power, even though the 10 horned beast is an eighth…[Read more]

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    One God= Father, One Lord=Jesus–LORD does not belong in the OT-YHVH, or YHWH belongs–Thus the removal of Gods name misleads ALL using those altered translations.

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    The narrow gate= Jesus’ religion= Love amongst themselves displayed in front of all creation= Would never be mislead ( 1John 3:10-12) to stand on both sides of the wars of hatred, blowing each others heads off. The other true mark=1Cor 1:10= Unity of though( all of Gods truth) no division= 1 single religion. These are no part of this world, thus…[Read more]

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    God created mortals to know only good, to live forever if they did not eat of the tree of knowledge of good and bad. That is Gods will for mortal man. Eve chose to listen to a liar who did 0 for them, God handed them life everlasting free of charge if they didn’t eat of that tree. They kicked God in the teeth by that rebellion.

    The purpose of…[Read more]

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