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Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
Nick, no one is denying that Jesus was a man. We know he emptied himself and came in the flesh. But you deny that Jesus Christ came in the flesh and no matter how much you try to change reality, it will always be you that needs to conform. You are fighting a battle you have already lost. Count your losses now and make the future bright.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
Okay, so the one in purple is correct, and the one is red is code. But you need this spirit to decipher it?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
So if I dig deeper, then this becomes that?
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
When Jesus died, a Savior was born to you, and when Jesus was 30 or so, he became the Messiah, at the Jordan? And he became Lord too, but too hard to pin an exact date on that, but definitely not when he came in the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
I don’t presume anything from my own understanding. I simply believe this to be true and it drives you nuts.
Luke 2:11
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.Matthew 1:18
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph,2 John 1:7
I say…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
But when Jesus came in the flesh, you deny he was the Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
Hi T8,
So anxious.
So much needing to be in control.
So frightened of change but then how can we hear the Spirit?
This message is for you Nick. Apply it to yourself because you can change yourself. When you have changed, then you will be able to help others to change too. That would be a win win situation.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 6 months ago
But you block your ears.
I understand what you are saying, but scripture says otherwise. Thus I discount what you teach, rather than block my ears.
Your leaven is opposite and not what scripture teaches us. Jesus was born the Christ, thus Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Your confession is to deny Jesus Christ came in the flesh.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Did you doubt that the Holy Spirit that spoke through Jesus Christ was before Abraham?
Did you doubt that it was Jesus Christ speaking only that which was in accordance with God’s will? It seems you doubt. You also doubt that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. You say Jesus was not born the Christ. Your teaching is your own and comes from your own…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
Thanks Anthony. I am too tired to read this right now, I need to get some sleep. Will certainly read this when I return. I really feel there is something in there for me to see. Blessings.
Also this made me laugh because it was the perfect reaction to Nick’s accusations and false witness:
Nick,
Not sure how you were able to imply anything…
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Nick, I am confident in scripture and if an angel was given a message to declare that went like the following, then it means what it says. Let me explain:
But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid! For behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people: Today in the City of David a Savior has been born to you. He is C…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Nick, what spirit derives an opposite meaning to scripture?
Scripture: Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
Nick: 30 or so years later at the Jordan a Savior was born; at this point he became the Messiah and the Lord because before this, he was an ordinary man like Nick. Further, a particular…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Think of it like this Nick.
You have say three sixes and scripture is a Royal Flush.
I choose scripture, thus you lose this round right?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Humans have one kind of body, that same body goes from being earthly to spiritual, do you agree?
I agree. But in what capacity the body we have now is the same one at the resurrection is up for debate. First we have to acknowledge that we look through a glass darkly and John said it like this:
what we will be has not yet been made known. But we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi T8,
The one constant in your arguments is that your opinions are irrefutably correct.
How arrogant.
I am not correct, scripture is. I merely believe it and quote it. I didn’t write it, declare it, or invent it. I believe it though and you do not because you oppose this vehemently. You then say you need the Spirit to essentially deny what is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Jesus Christ, without the Jordan anointing, was a pious,
It is a commandment to not bear false witness against thy neighbour. I challenge you to find where I have posted that Jesus was not anointed by the Spirit at Jordan. You cannot do it. Why do you say it then? Maybe because you are trying to detract attention away from yourself who denies…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
My point about Jesus’s Father and your Father, is that you was born from your Father and your a human. Jesus was born of His Father and He’s a God. God bless.
Yes good point. He partook of our nature through a process which was like our coming into this world, except of course Jesus has more in common with Adam in that sense than us who are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Two opposing opinions being argued here that are both wrong when scripture is used as the test.
@Dig4truth you seem to disagree with this:
“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent,”You see Dig, this truth is eternal life, so it needs to be respected. The Father is the only true…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Nick doesn’t do yes / no questions because he is knows it requires a level of honesty that would condemn his own teaching. Perhaps Nick could explain his position if somehow the scripture regarding letting your yes be yes does not apply to him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Dig, you said:
Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus *said to him
Rather than craft a post about this, I poinyvyoubto the following page.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 7 months ago
Hi Anthony, it seems from reading your last post that we agree on a lot of things, although the post was hard to read as it seemed to out of order somewhat.
When I talk about my father in a spiritual sense, I am talking of the Father, not my earthly daddy. So we can be born from above in new birth and become a son of God. Like Jesus too, but of…[Read more]
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