Quote (Baker @ Dec. 04 2010,05:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 04 2010,15:27)Georg,Quote When God gives you understanding, you don't need the “other” translations. I know Jesus is “a god”, a mighty one; the “only begotten” of the Father. Is it not true that you have problem with that word, “begotten”? GeorgSometimes we think that God gave us…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 03 2010,16:45)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 04 2010,09:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,23:15)Hi Georg,Quote You should pay more attention to what God says in his word, and less attention to what “man” says; understanding comes from God, not from man.…Also, aren't you a man and you are trying to give me understanding?…[Read more]

Georg,Quote When God gives you understanding, you don't need the “other” translations. I know Jesus is “a god”, a mighty one; the “only begotten” of the Father. Is it not true that you have problem with that word, “begotten”? GeorgSometimes we think that God gave us understanding but really it is only a step in the right direction and we need to…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 02 2010,23:44)Well written kathi.Another thing is the Holy Spirit can be grieved or quenched. How do you see this ?Isnt it sin that grieves or quenches it ?Thanks Karmarie!

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 03 2010,01:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 03 2010,15:05)Adam,I will give you my understanding on the question you asked at the top of this page.  The Father and the Son both have a perfect spirit.  The Father's spirit unites with the Son's spirit and then that united spirit of the Father and the Son, called the Comforter is a g…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 03 2010,05:41)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 03 2010,17:44) Another thing is the Holy Spirit can be grieved or quenched. How do you see this ?Ok before you do, there's no need to answer, I have the answer I should of known and I don't know why I even asked it. It's sin/hardness of heart that seperates us from God and grieves the Holy…[Read more]

JA,You consider demons, evil spirits, right? They certainly are not everywhere. Spirits are not omnipresent, where do you get that? The legion of demon spirits possessed the man but not the pigs and then possessed the pigs but not the man because Jesus cast them out of the man and allowed them to enter the herd of pigs. Obviously they were not…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 02 2010,18:18)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:04)I do not agree with you Georg.  I do not think that the nature of God is spirit.  The nature of God is much more.  If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your po…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 02 2010,18:46)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:04)I do not agree with you Georg.  I do not think that the nature of God is spirit.  The nature of God is much more.  If His nature was spirit then the angels and God would have the same nature.The nature of God is a divine nature (See 2 Pet 1:4 which you put up in your post ab…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 02 2010,18:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:12)Georg,you said Quote “””The only begotten God. John 1:18″””  This is not how it is written. Jhn 1:18   No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.  You have to do some more studying because it is tr…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 02 2010,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 03 2010,16:04)Pierre,Flesh is a body type in which there are several types, i.e. animal flesh, human flesh, etc.Spirit is a body type in which there are different types, i.e. God, angels.Flesh is only a nature of the vessel, not the nature of the person/thing within the vessel.We have…[Read more]

Thanks Keith, Don Moen is one of my favorite worship leaders.

Adam,I will give you my understanding on the question you asked at the top of this page. The Father and the Son both have a perfect spirit. The Father's spirit unites with the Son's spirit and then that united spirit of the Father and the Son, called the Comforter is a gift from the Father, through the Son and unites with the believer's spirit…[Read more]

Quote And Kathi on everything except the worshipping of Jesus as a “part of God”.Good job Mike, you worded that right! I don't have to get after you, LOL.

Pierre,Flesh is a body type in which there are several types, i.e. animal flesh, human flesh, etc.Spirit is a body type in which there are different types, i.e. God, angels.Flesh is only a nature of the vessel, not the nature of the person/thing within the vessel.We have a human nature within a flesh vessel.God has a divine nature within a spirit…[Read more]

Hi Happyman,I will say a prayer for your family but it has been a few days since you posted that so maybe everyone is better…that influenza….yuck!

Quote (Laurel @ Dec. 01 2010,20:44)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,12:30)Laurel,It is interesting to have those types of conversations with the Mormons and it is good that you are getting more familiar with their doctrines.  I wonder if the Mormons believe that Jesus BECAME a god/God or always was from the get go.   I would assume that they t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,22:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,18:31)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2010,13:34)Quote (Lightenup @ Dec. 02 2010,08:59)I came across this verse to show that spirit is the opposite of flesh in some contexts:Isa 31:33 Now the Egyptians are men and not God, And their horses are flesh and not spirit; So the Lord will…[Read more]

Pierre,What I said does not oppose scripture.Do you think that God and angels have the same nature?If you think that 'spirit' represents nature, then you have to say that God and angels all have the same nature and that is not to be found true.

Laurel,It is interesting to have those types of conversations with the Mormons and it is good that you are getting more familiar with their doctrines. I wonder if the Mormons believe that Jesus BECAME a god/God or always was from the get go. I would assume that they think that they will BECOME a god and do not think of themselves as gods by…[Read more]