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    Nick…I AGREE, HE WAS CONCIEVED, that means he had a begining in the womb of Mary, that is where his conception took place, and nine months later he was born. Jesus had a beginning and a ending, and a resurection and is alive again for ever more. Rev 1:18… “I am he that lives, and was dead; and behold, I am alive for evermore”.

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    NiCk….I THINK HEB WAS REFERING TO THE FACT MELCHIZEDEK JUST DID NOT HAVE A RECORDED HISTORY FOR US TO KNOW HIS TIME OF EXISTENCE. No “known” beginning or ending of days is recorded. I really dont think it saying he always existed. He was called a man, so that should imply a begining of existence,but perhaps just not recorded.

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    Nick….I do agree, what some think is humourous can be hertfull and even harmful, to me thats not humor. Anything that herts anything is not humourous to me. But there is humour that doesn’t hert anything, a good laugh, even about ourselves can be good for us sometimes.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    T8….Your trying to make it appear JESUS ALREADY DIED TO SAVE US AT HIS BERTH, HE WAS NOT OUR SAVIOR BEFORE HE DIED FOR OUR SINS WHICH SAVED US. NAME ONE THING THAT WAS SAVED AT HIS BERTH. TO QUALIFY AS THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD AND BECOME A MESSIAH IT ACTUALLY HAD TO HAPPEN FIRST. THAT IS SO SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND T8.

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    Nick….Yes i believe Jesus was displind by the laws of God, and his human parents. But even like us he still lacked the ability to direct his steps, “for it is not within a man to direct his stepts”, untill he and we recieved the spirit of God, when God the Father puts his laws in his inward parts, as he does us also. Exactly what had to…[Read more]

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    T8….You need to rethink your stand, MOSES saif God would raise up from among the Israelites a prophet “LIKE HIM”, SO JESUS had to have come ibto his existence at his berth on this earth exactly as we had to. Because the God the father was the one who himself begot him, does not change a thing in with reguards to his human DNA existence. WHY…[Read more]

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    Edj… changing subject matter, simply show us where Jesus was anointed twice, in scripture, or you simply have no proof, just supositions of your thinking, while Jesus was certainly blessed and kept by God from berth, he was not anointed by God as the Messiah umtill it actually happened. God can bless and keep us, as the prayer says, but even…[Read more]

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    Edj….No priest is a priest untill he takes that office as such, just as a king is not a king untill he actually takes that office even though he was born to be a king. I am not saying that was not their destiny.

    Please answer my question where is there any scripture that says, The man Jesus was anointed as a messiah twice? IF JESUS WERE…[Read more]

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    Edj….Show us a scripture that says he was anointed twice then. Jesus was the prophesied messiah to come anointed like Moses was, according to Moses. But he like Moses, he was not that messiah untill he was baptized and recieved the Spirit from the Father above, and then he was sent out into the world, by that same spirit to preach the gospel of…[Read more]

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    Edj….so are we equal with God, “know you not, that you (are now) sons of the living God”? The jews told jesus they have but onefather even God,did that make them equal with God? If JESUS was equal with God ,then why did he say “the Father is greater then him?

    Show us a scripture saying Jesus is equal to God.

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    Diane……thats a good start. There is no trinity, JESUS came into his existence when he was born through a human mother, Mary. He is a real son of man. He never actually existed befor his berth on this earth, he was only prophecied to come into his existence before he actually did.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    Nick….Good humor is not sinfull, and yes I do think we can be like him, in fact that is exactly what he desires us to become, haven’t you ever read, “Be you holy because I (God) am holy”, be you perfect because I (God) am perfect”.

    Nick, surely you don’t believe God desires us to go around all negative all the time. knowing what we know, we…[Read more]

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    Edj…if JESUS WAS THE CHRIST AT BERTH , WHY NO MIRACLES OR EVIDENCE OF IT UNTILL AFTER HE WAS BAPTIZED AT THE JORDAN RIVER.

    GIVE US YOU SO-CALLED “PROOFS”. IS IT SOMETHING LIKE , “BEFORE” ABRAHAM I AM? (I am what?) The christos?, born?, mentioned?, more important? Do you believe Jesus was so ignorant he would not have said ” I WAS ALIVE OR…[Read more]

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    Edj….that was Jesus’ destiny, to be the messaih, he was not the anointed one untill he was anointed even though that was his destiny. Moses also was born to be a messiah or christo”s, but he wasn’t until God put his spirit on him. The word “born” means coming into existence, not prexisting like the being morphed from one existence into another,…[Read more]

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    Edj….Jesus was not born a messiah, he became one when he recieved the spirit of God, no messiah could be a preexisting being. Ask any Jew and they will tell you a messiah has to be a human being who was anointed with the spirit of God, just as Moses was. John saw the spirit decend on him like a dove after he was baptized. NOW IF HE WAS ALREADY…[Read more]

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    T8….Your problem is your lack of understanding that JESUS HIMSELF, is not the Word that came to be “in” him, that WORD WAS GOD THE FATHER, HE CAME TO BE IN JESUS, WHEN JESUS WAS BAPTIZED, by John the baptist at the Jordan river. God is a spirit, the (christo’s) or anointing spirit, that came to be “in” Jesus and can be in us also. Remember what…[Read more]

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    Nick….You sure can, did he not make us in his likeness. Does scripture not say, “the hidden atributes of God, are seen by the things created?
    There is humor in the creation, as well as severity.

    Peace and love to you and yours……gene

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    Nick….Remember the labors in the vinyard parable. the land owner has hired us to work in his vinyard till he tells his Steward to call in the workers and pay them their wages, even if it’s the last hour and we haven’t born the heat of the day as the first have, we still must continue till the Steward says it’s time to quite working, But i do…[Read more]

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    Miia…The things that have changed in my lifetime, i remember when the ditch tenders were still using a team of horeses to mow the ditch banks, and pull out vines in vinyards. Our neighborhood had a ten party phone line, no televisions, just radios, no computers or electric typewriters, or jet airplanes, no autonatic wash machines, and dryers.…[Read more]

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    Nick, Yes, but it also helps us to understand what scriptures are “actually” saying right? Why do you say the truth is irrelevant? The spirit of God rejoices in the truth, AND IT EXPOSES FALSE TEACHINGS. ” Wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many go in threat, narrow is the gate and straight is the way that leads…[Read more]

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