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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
T8…..Go do a study on the Greek word “dia” , better yet, I have did it for you, go back and read reply 845524.
Your using a word “wrongly” applied to that scripture, for an entrapment. You yes/no tory only works if the words used I the text is indeed the right word, “through” is not the right words, unless you apply it as a resonance why he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Anthony, I have studied scriptures for over 50 years, and read many books by scholars over the years, and even had a magazine publish something I wrote on the false teachings of the “trinity” and I still learn new things as God reveals them to me.
Jodi is not my teacher, we agree because we both have the spirit of truth guiding us. That is w…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
ANTHONY, if you don’t see Jesus as a fellow flesh human being , you simply don’t see him. IMO. By the was Anthony, where did I say he was “just” a man, it is you who deny he was a real human being , trying to make him out to be a God. In that you deny his flesh existence, and put yourself in the position of an Antichrist. I completely beli…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
TC….First of all Heb 2:6, is dealing with all mankind in a “general” sense, it was not talking specifically about Jesus till Heb 2:9. Jesus is being shown as already given what God has “purposed” for all of mankind.
Why are you always trying to change simple scriptures to say or mean something else all the time.
Heb 2:5-11, is one of the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
To all, do search on the Greek word “pro”
“pro”, is a primary preposition; “fore”, that is, in front of, prior (figuratively superior) to. Another words, Jesus was telling them he was “fore” that is, in front of, Abraham in “importance”.
Why would Abraham look forward to the day of Jesus and saw it, if Jesus already was alive, at the time…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
T8……Your problem is with the word “through”. Why not make a study of that word. More accurate should be ” for the sake of”. YOU want us to become entrapped by the word ““through” which can be equally translated as a “by, for, “because of”, a preposition denoting the channel of an act; like for the “purpose of”. That word can be bounced…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Jodi…..I say again, they simply don’t get it, because it is not “in” them.
None of those who hold Jesus as a prexisting being, or a God, or a Deity of somekind, before his birth on this earth will ever understand, and as long as they hold onto that point of view, they simply are blind guides leading the blind.
Peace and love to you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Jodi……You got that right, it is “bizarre” and “fusstrating”, they are so blind they can’t even get the simple things right.
It would even be humorous, if it weren’t damaging, but it sure does prove a point, unless the Lord shall build the house the weary builders build in vain.
Thats why Jesus and the deciples never tried to convien…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 10 months ago
Truthcomber. …. right , the word was “in” Christ (Jesus) , via the anointing he recieved, That is right, but that never made the (anointed one ) the man Jesus the word “himself” . You have that the exactly right, If I follow what you are saying correctly.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Anthony…..let me put it in a real simple terms for you, in the beginning (of creation) was GOD (who is spirit, as well as his words that comes from him) . ACCORDING TO JESUS. Jesus told us “the words he was telling us were “not” his words, but the words of him who sent him, and they were Spirit and life. Jesus was quoting God the Fath…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
T8…..scripture says Jesus came in the flesh, so Jesus himself was a flesh person, “right”? , but you say he was the word, who was another being who came in the flesh, a morphed being of somekind right?. , in that way you are denying, his only true existence as flesh?
John was not saying Jesus was a alien who came in the flesh of a human…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Anthony…..Again you switch and bate, “Only” one true God, has “nothing” to do with being at one with God or anyone else for that matter, it just means, “being in agreement with” nothing more nothing less. It’s just another twist you apply to scriptures to force the text to say what in fact it does not truly say. Jesus was in total “agreement”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Anthony……Are you not also one of those decievers yourself?, you have stated, Jesus is God, Scripture says,”God is not a man, that he should lie,”nor” a son of man, that he should repent. So, you are denying Jesus came in the flesh , by saying he was and is a God. Jesus clearly said over over, and over, he was a “son” of man, but scrip…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop posted a new activity comment 6 years, 10 months ago
Nick what does that have to do with, Jesus not having a physical body? No scripture say that.
And wher is says the LORD is the spirit, that not saying Jesus is a spirit being. Jesus has a visible body even revelation describes it and how he is dressed.When God made mankind , he certainly did not do it with mind to destory his creation of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
T8……Jodi and I are telling you the truth brother, time for you to take a hard look and give up you false assumptions you aquired many, many, years ago. I am telling you, and others here also, if you can’t, “IDENTIFY ” with Jesus on a human level, you simply do not know the real Jesus, of scriptures.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
T8…..Your still stuck in false religion, you quote only part of what is says as Jesus being the only mediator between man and God, it says, “the man” Jesus, the “anointed ” ,
Tell us what does these scriptures mean to you.
Mat 10:23, 16:13, 19:28, 25:31, 8:38, 15:39,
Luk 6:22, 7:12, 9:26, 12:40, 17:22, 17:30, 18:8,
John 8:28, 13:…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
To all…… If Adam and Eve never sinned they would still be alive with the same body the were created with even until this very day. OUR BODIES can reproduce themselves over and over, if the right Genetic codes are used. Our complete bones are reproduced ever ten years , I just read , and a lizard can lose an apendage and regrow it, many sp…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop posted a new activity comment 6 years, 10 months ago
Nick…. yes it is written,
Psa 16:10 , for thou will not leave my soul (a body with the breath of life in it) in hell (the grave); neither will you suffer thy Holy one to see corruption. That is exactly what happens in the grave our bodies corrupt and turn to dust, and unless God regenerates it by a resurection it would remain that way for…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 10 months ago
TC…..Yea like you refer to all the many scriptures I have posted, right. You put a twist on all kinds of scriptures by putting your own spin on them, and then you accuse others of doing exactly what you do, you pick and choose words and insert them into your conclusions.
I will give you my understanding of what spirit is seening you are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 10 months ago
Edj……if Jesus’ flesh “never”, saw corruption, he obvisely still has it. JUST THAT SIMPLE, no “mystery religion” needed.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
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