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- May 24, 2016 at 11:18 am#814388NickHassanParticipant
Hi GB,
Align the verses and rely on what is written, not your opinion of what is written
May 25, 2016 at 12:41 am#814414GeneBalthropParticipantNICK….ALIGN A SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS. NOT A SINGLE SCRIPTURE YOU AS ME TO READ SAYS ANGELS ARE SPIRITS. The ball is in your court. please address the issue, stop skirting it brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
May 25, 2016 at 8:51 am#814419NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
1cor 12
For there are varieties of gifts but the same Spirit..
but to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit..
and to another faith by the same Spirit..
and to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit..
But one and the same Spirit works all these things..
Eph 4
Being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace
There is one body and one Spirit..
1Cor 12
For by one Spirit we were all baptised into one body..
and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.
May 25, 2016 at 11:12 am#814426GeneBalthropParticipantNICK…..No where does that say that there is “only” one spirit that exists, even though it is by the one and same spirit we are all in christ. AND NON OF THAT SAYS THAT THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD “ARE” ANGELS OF ANYKIND. Again youmust showfroms ripture thatthose sevenspirits of God are a tually angels. You have no scriptural support for saying that angels “are” spirits that ihave seen you produce. reading into scriptures and forcing text tosay what is not specifically said, is not good scholarship NICK.
peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
May 25, 2016 at 11:38 am#814428NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Boast of your scholarship if you must.
But spirits are intellects?
May 25, 2016 at 2:27 pm#814440ProclaimerParticipant- Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
- “Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?”
May 26, 2016 at 1:51 am#814471GeneBalthropParticipantT8….FIRST OF ALL, NICK IS SAYING, THERE IS ONLY “ONE” SPIRIT, I AM SAYING THERE ARE MANY SPIRITS, HE IS ALSO SAYING, WHERE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD MENTIONED IN REVELATIONS, IN THEEE PLACES ARE THE SEVEN ANGELS OF GOD.
ALSO YOU ARE MISQUOTING SCRIPTURE, HEBREWS IS SAYING, GOD MAKES HIS ANGEL’S SPIRITS AND SENDS THEM OUT TO MINISTER, IT IS NOT SAYING HIS ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS, THAT IS A FALSE ASSUMPTION, IT IS SAYING HE MAKES THEIR SPIRITS IN THEM, IF ANGELS WERE SPIRITS THEN WHY WOULD THEY NEED MANNA, FOOD TO EAT.
GOD MAKES ALL SPIRITS THAT EXIST, WHETHER IN OR OUT OF BODIES, EVERYTHING THAT HAS LIFE HAS SPIRIT IN IT, NO LIFE FORMS CAN EXIST WITHOUT SPIRIT.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
May 26, 2016 at 8:53 am#814480NickHassanParticipantHi T8.
So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.
He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written
May 26, 2016 at 8:54 am#814481NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
If you do not believe what is written who can reach you?
May 26, 2016 at 9:34 am#814482Ed JParticipantHi T8.
So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.
He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written
Hi Nick,
REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?
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God bless
Ed JMay 26, 2016 at 9:38 am#814483NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
step by step
Rev 1.4
John to the seven churches that are in asia; Grace to you and peace from Him Who is and Who was and Who is to come; and from the seven spirits who are before His throne: and from Jesus Christ…
God is eternal.
The verse separates Him from Jesus Christ but also from the seven spirits.
May 26, 2016 at 9:52 am#814485NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Rev 1.20 explains the vision of Jesus Christ with the the stars and the lampstands .
The stars are the angels of the churches.
So everything is not as first seen.
There is much symbolism.
May 26, 2016 at 9:55 am#814486NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Note that scripture says several times
He who has an ear let him hear what THE SPIRIT says to the churches
ONE SPIRIT
Rev 3.2
He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars….
This separates the seven angels of the churches from the seven other spirits
May 26, 2016 at 10:17 am#814487NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Rev 4.5
..and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven spirits of God;
Rev 5.6
…a lamb standing , as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God , sent out into all of the earth.
The Spirit of the living God is never separate from He Who is on the throne
May 26, 2016 at 10:36 am#814488Ed JParticipantHi T8.
So if scriptures are shown to Gene he rationalises about them and believes he still can justify his own ideas.
He seems to believe his thoughts are greater than what is written
Hi Nick,
REALLY? You mean like you do with the prophecy given in Micah 5:2 and its fulfillment in Luke 2:11 ?
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God bless
Ed JHi Nick,
Not sure if you seen this post or not
May 26, 2016 at 10:54 am#814489NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Everything good and spiritual happens by the Spirit of God.
Whether or not the Spirit is embodied in servant angels or men is not that important
May 26, 2016 at 11:25 am#814490NickHassanParticipantHi ED,
You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.
The Spirit are not a like man needing to be born
Such is the folly of the Trinitarians
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.
May 26, 2016 at 12:19 pm#814493Ed JParticipantHi ED,
You seem to want the Spirit of Christ to be a person.
Hi Nick,
“The Spirit of Christ” IS A PERSON – and his name is Jesus (YA-shu-a)!
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God bless
Ed JMay 26, 2016 at 12:21 pm#814494Ed JParticipantWhy do you think the Church was built upon this rock! ?
May 26, 2016 at 12:26 pm#814495NickHassanParticipantHi Ed,
You go through these mental gymnastics because you cannot grasp the prophetic word.
- Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
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