Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

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  • #800329
     NickHassan 
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    Hi 94,

    Yes.

    #800330
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidl,

    So you only have two deities?

    #800331
     dL 
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    ..goodnight.

    #800332
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidl,

    So you really do not believe in your trinity?

    The false roman church has tortured and killed millions in defence of this nonsense.

    Come out of her lest you suffer for her sins.

    #800333
     dL 
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    ..grow up.

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     kerwin 
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    DavidL,

    You take certain verses that on there own make you think they deny the Deity of Christ – when in fact they simply don’t. The problem is with your understanding, which is obvious when you’re born again – but to the carnally minded..you think you see the whole picture, when in reality all you see is the tiny walls of the theological rut you’ve dug yourself into.

    This is a bunch of speech to back up a false accusation.

    First of all Scripture quotes one passage, verse, or even part of a verse to make a point as do you.
    Second: Your assertion that something is or is not the case is of no import.
    Third: In a conversation you have the right and duty to counter if you have an honest counter.

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     kerwin 
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    DavidL,

    The Three are One in Unity…Tri-Unity
    You simply cannot have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit..period.

    You misuse the words of Scripture.

    You can come to God but through Jesus Christ the Son of God’s Spirit
    God sends his Spirit in Jesus’ name.
    You must live by the Spirit in order to inherit the reign of God.

    You cannot go to God unless you have the Son and he gives you the Spirit.

    God did exist without the Son until he caused Jesus of Nazareth to be made of the Seed of David. (Romans 1:3)

    God has always had his own Spirit.

    #800340
     kerwin 
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    DavidL,

    DavidL,

    Who or what is the rock the out assembly of Christ is based on?

    You did not answer my question.

    #800343
     dL 
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    Your question avoids a simple fact..

    A person cannot have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit.

    The Three are ONE in Unity.

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     kerwin 
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    DavidL,

    You are using vague words that resemble the word of John but do not have the same spirit.

    1 John 2:23New English Translation (NET Bible)

    23 Everyone who denies the Son does not have the Father either. The person who confesses the Son has the Father also.

    You are denying the Son of God by calling him the one true God. Jesus called the Father the one true God.

    God spoke of Jesus and said:

    Matthew 12:18New English Translation (NET Bible)

    18
    “Here is my servant whom I have chosen,
    the one I love, in whom I take great delight.
    I will put my Spirit on him, and he will proclaim justice to the nations.

    The words “I will put my Spirit on him” means he did not have the Spirit already and you know God does not lie.

    Galatians 4:6New English Translation (NET Bible)

    6 And because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, who calls “Abba! Father!”

    As of human beings Jesus Christ received the Spirit first and then after Jesus ascended God sent into believers in the name of Jesus Christ.

    #800350
     dL 
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    Oh come on Kerwin..

    Not vague words – just basic logic…

    Can a person have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit..?
    Simple answer – no..
    The Three work together as One.

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     942767 
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    Well, the truth is that you cannot have “the Son” without the Father. The Holy Spirit is God’s Spirit, not some “third person of a “tri-une God.

    1 Co 2:
    9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

    10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

    11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

    Psalm 139:

    7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

    8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

    #800354
     kerwin 
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    DavidL,

    Oh come on Kerwin..

    Not vague words – just basic logic…

    Can a person have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit..?
    Simple answer – no..
    The Three work together as One.

    English is often vague which is one reason why miscommunication occurs.

    In what way do you mean have?

    If you are speaking Spiritually then God lives in a believer through the Spirit and in some manner Jesus does too.

    That is the unity of faith but it is not the unity of being the one true God.

    Only the Father is called the one true God in Scripture.

    #800355
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidl,

    Basic logic?

    I thought you claimed to be following Jesus.

    #800363
     kerwin 
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    942767,

    God has many children in reference to the Spirit.

    #800364
     NickHassan 
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    Hi davidl,

    The Spirit of God is not another deity.

    Your trinity has imploded.

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     t8 
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    Yes, you miss a lot when you rely on your own understanding

    True faith is based on the revelation of Jesus Christ

    not the dead doctrines of uninspired men – which you promote.

    You are entitled to your opinion of course, but to convince those who love the truth, we only ask for scripture. Then we will take a look.

    We hold to the truth that the Father is the one true God and Jesus is the son of the one true God.

    Please point out there this is wrong so myself and Jesus can be corrected.

    Jesus said: “eternal life is this, to know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent” and you say this is wrong.

    Show us why.

    Thanks in advance.

    #800530
     t8 
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    lol. Basic logic is this, ‘if we accept God has a son, that means God is the Father’.

     

    #800581
     t8 
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    Yes, you miss a lot when you rely on your own understanding

    True faith is based on the revelation of Jesus Christ

    not the dead doctrines of uninspired men – which you promote.

    The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,

    Oh the irony. Who is God in the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Clue: It isn’t Jesus Christ. Have a guess DavidL Be honest though. At least be honest to yourself. That would help you.

     

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     terraricca 
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    hi Davidl

    Your question avoids a simple fact..

    A person cannot have the Father without the Son or the Holy Spirit.

    The Three are ONE in Unity.

    who is the father ? who is the son ? what/who is the holy spirit ? answer all according to scriptures ths

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