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EDJ…..SHOW US WHERE THE ANGEL SAID HE WAS “ALREADY” A MESSIAH, YOU CAN’T, THE ANGEL WAS TELLING THEM THAT JESUS WAS THE ONE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, WHO WOULD BE THE MESSIAH, HE COULDN’T HAVE BEEN THE ACTUALL MESSIAH, BEFORE HE WAS A MAN AND THEN ANOINTED, NO “MESSIAH” WAS EVER ANOINTED AS SUCH AT BERTH. SAYING A PERSON IS BORN AS A MESSIAH IS DENYING , THE WHOLE ROLL OF A MESSIAH, ASK ANY JEW.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
EDJ…..SHOW US WHERE THE ANGEL SAID HE WAS “ALREADY” A MESSIAH, YOU CAN’T
Hi Gene,
“For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord.” (Luke 2:11)
“And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith,
And let all the angels of God worship him.” (Hebrews 1:6)____________
God bless
Ed JEDJ…..JESUS WAS INDEED THE MESSIAH, “THAT WAS FOR TOLD TO COME”, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHEN DID HE “ACTUALLY” BECOME THE MESSIAH, AT BERTH OR WHEN HE RECIEVED THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD ON HIM. SAYING JESUS WAS ACTUALL BORN A MESSIAH, DENIES THE WHOLE PROCESS and description of what a MESSIAH is. JESUS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN A BORN MESSIAH HE BECAME ONE, JUST AS MOSES COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BEFORE HIS BERTH, MOSES WAS ALSO A MESSIAH. YOU PEOPLE TRY TO MAKE JESUS DIFFERENT THEN MOSES, BUT THE WORDS OF MOSES SAYS “THE LORD SHALL RAISE UP FRON AMONG YOUR BRETHERN, A PROPHET LIKE UNTO ME, MOSES LIKENED JESUS LIKE HIM, A MESSIAH OR ANOINTED ONE OF GOD.
WHILE ANGELS WERE TOLD TO WORSHIP HIM, WE SURE WERN’T. WE INSTEAD WERE TOLD TO HNOR AND BOW OUR KNEE TO HIM “TO THE GLORY OF GOD”, NOT TO THE GLORY OF JESUS.
WHAT YOU AN OTHERS DO NOT UBDERSTAND IS THAT THE ANOINTING “IS GOD”, THE FATHER HIMSELFS PRESENCES IN A MAN AND EVEN NOW, JESUS HAS ALL SEVEN SPIRITS “OF GOD”, IN HIM. BUT NONE OF THAT MAKES HIM THE SEVEN SPIRIT THAT ARE IN HIM. IT WAS GODS SPIRIT THAT WAS THE ANOINTING SPIRIT IN JESUS. NOT A SINGLE SCRIPTURE SHOWS ANY ACTIVITY “OF GOD”, WHO IS the SPIRIT THAT JESUS RECIEVED, DOING ANYTHING, TILL AFTER HIS WAS BAPTIZED.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
NICK…..SPIRIT CAN BE SEEN AS single IN A GENERAL SENSE, AS SPIRIT “IS” SPIRIT, MUCH LIKE MAN CAN BE CONCIDERED MAN in a “general sense”, also, but to say all men are the same is not true, the same applies with spirits. THE LORD,USES SEVEN DESTINCT SPIRITS, THAT GO BEFORE HIS THRONE AND THEY EACH PRODUCE THEIR DESTINCT INTELLEGENCES, MUCH LIKE OUR FIVE SENSES PRODUCE THERE OWN DESTINCT IMPUTS TO US. WE ARE ONE BUT HAVE FIVE INPUTS EACH GIVING THEIR OWN DESTINCT IMPUTS INTO US WHICH OUR MIND USE TO GATHER IT’S INTELLEGENT DECISIONS, THE SAME WORKS WITH THE SEVEN SPIRITS THAT GO “BEFOR’ THE THRONE OF GOD.
AS IN FLESH BEGETS FLESH, SO ALL FLESH IS FLESH, BUT NOT ALL FLESH IS EXACTLY THE SAME FLESH EACH OF US HAS OUR OWN DESTINCT QUALITY. SO WE ARE NOT ALL EXACTLY THE SAME PERSON BUT EACH DESTINCT FRON THE OTHER, SO IT IS WITH SPIRIT.
THE SPIRIT “OF TRUTH” IS A DESTINCT “COGNISITY” THAT IMPUTS IT DESTINCT ATTRIBUTE INTO OUR MINDS INABLING US TO “percieve” , THE TRUTH FROM UNTRUTH.
peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Hi GB,
You rely on your own insights to try and show this.
Why do you not show it from scripture?
You have to align the verses from Ephesians and 1 Cor 12 that state the Spirit is one.
How could you imagine that the Spirit of God is SEPARATE from Him in front of His throne.
The doctrine of separation??
Nike, follow what i wrote, it explains it, there are many if not billions of different spirits, but they “all” are spirit, just as there are billions of people, but they are “all” human being sons and daughters “of” man “kind” even so there are possible billion of spirits, which come in “types and kinds”, of spirits. SPIRIT IS NOT LIMITED TO JUST ONE, YOU KNOW THAT NICK I BELIEVE. what does GOD MEAN WHEN HE SAYS “HE GIVES “IT” A BODY JUST AS HE PLEASES, WHAT IS THE “IT” MENTIONED THERE?
There is a parallel between flesh kind of existence and spirit existences. in fact it is spirits that give everything physical their destinct cherateristics of their behaviors. NO FLESH COULD EVEN EXIST WITHOUT SPIRITS IN IT., BECAUSE SPIRITS GIVES THEM THE VERY LIFE IN THEM ANDUS ALSO,
THERE ARE SEVEN “SPIRITS” BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD , WE ARE TOLD IN THREE PLACES, NO SCRIPTURE SAYS OR EVEN HINTS AT THEY ARE SEVEN ANGELS, AS SOME ASSUME. NICK ANGELS ARE “NOT” SPIRITS AS MANY ASSUME THEY ARE BEING WHO HAVE SPIRITS THAT MAKES FOR THEM “IN” THEM.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi GB,
You have drifted back into reliance on your own weak human wisdom.
Scripture is divine wisdom and you should depend on it.
NICK….IT IS “SCRIPTURE” THAT SAYS THERE “ARE” SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, that not my words but scriptures, do i need to quote them to you, I believe you know that “is” what “scripture”say not me brother. NO SCRIPTURE SAY ANGELS ARE THEMSELVES SPIRITS. There is one place in Hebrews where that is falsely applied. But what is actually said is God creates the angels spirits,just as he does ours, in no way is it saying angels are SPIRITS NO MORE THEN IF we say, we are spirits. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Hi t8,
2 peter 1
21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Do you believe this was true of Jesus Christ?
NICK….There are many scriptures that show there are more then one kinds and types of spirits. YOU make the claim that the seven spirits of God are angels, so it is your responsibility to produce scriptures that says that, the seven spirits are seven angels of God, right?
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
NICK….1 COR 12:10 where it says the decerning of “spirits” , what does that mean to you? why is the plural from of spirits used if there is only “one” spirit? NEITHER HAVE I SEEN ANYTHING IN EPHESIANS, SUJESTING THERE IS “ONLY” ONE SPIRIT, IN EXISTANCE.
While it is true there is one christos, i.e. “anointing spirit” of GOD , MAKING US ALL OF ONE BODY OF BELIEVERS and administering diverious gifts in that body, THAT IS NOT SAYING THERE IS ONLY “ONE” KIND OR TYPE OF SPIRIT in existence Nick. NEITHER does any of those scriptures even remotely say spirits are angels Nick.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
NICK….Please present the scriptures that say angels “are” spirits, I have yet to see that written in scriptures brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Hi GB,
And you explain how God could be on His throne but separate from what you say are multiple spirits.
That is clearly false.
NICK….Consider this, JESUS HAS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, along with the seven horns (powers) that go with them.
REV 5:6 “and I beheld, and lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and SEVEN EYES, WHICH “ARE” THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, sent forth into all the earth.
Now consider what eyes do, they supply us with the means to acquire information, the seven spirits of GOD do the same thing for him. they input into his mind, the information needed for him to make his decisions. ALSO the seven spirits are called seven lamps of fire burning before the throne of GOD.
Rev 4:5 “and out of the throne proceeded lightinings and thundering and voices: and SEVEN LAMPS OF FIRE , burning before the throne which “are” the SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.
Fire in scripture implys intense judgements, THE LORD uses those seven destinct types of judgements to judge all thing with, they act as his eyes of judgement, the are spirits just as it says they are.
YOU should be able to understand this Nick.
No scripture call angels spirits NICK.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
NOW CONSIDER that they are the complete God, residing “in” him, that is why the LORD said to the son “THY KINGDOM “O” GOD IS AN EVERLASTING KINGDOM.”
NICK…..ARE YOU SAYING THE SCRIPTURES I POSTED IS CHEAP TALK? I HAVE READ THOSE SCRIPTURES YOU ASK ME, AND NOT ONE SAYS SPIRITS “ARE” ANGELS Nick. PLEASE PRESENT SCRIPTURES THAT SAYS “ANGELS “ARE” SPIRITS. IF YOU CAN’T, THEN I MUST CONCLUDE YOUR “ASSUMPTIONS” ARE NOT BASED ON SCRIPTRUAL FACTS, BROTHER.
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
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