Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church

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  • #812209
    terraricca
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    Nick

    you are a fake believer for the real reason why you don’t quote the scriptures is only because you cannot explain them in the truth ,so you don’t use them

    your faith is with the unbelievers ,

    and for your info I am not confused ;but you try to confuse me but i am not confused

    Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.
    Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

    in those two verses John made two claims 1) Jesus was with God in the beginning ;do you believe that Jesus was with God as a being ,for John specically talks about the man Jesus ,not a spirit

    2) he tells that “ALL THINGS WERE MADE THROUGH HIM ” DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT jOHN SAYS HERE ?

    #812218
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    Indeed all things were made through the Spirit.

    Ps 104.30

    #812225
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick
    why are you changing what scriptures says ,and quote scriptures that have nothing to do with the ones i showed you

    are you a false teachers the ones that Peter talk about ,those that twist the truth of God ?

    #812238
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    27.000 negative posts.

    That has got to be some sort of record.

     

    You cannot know joy.

    #812240
    terraricca
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    Nick

    i am seeing you have over 66000 of them ,you beat me by the double amount what is your complaint ?

    I always rejoy in the truth ,not in deception or false teachings the reward for those are rejection from God ,not for me

    #812245
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terraricca…..The one changing scripture is you, there is no mention of JESUS IN ANY OF THOSE SCRIPTURE YOU QUOTED, You simply force the text to say that. Those scriptures are speaking about GOD HIMSELF. NEED PROOF?

    Gen 1:1-3 , in THE BEGINNING “GOD CREATED”, the heaven AND the earth. 2, and the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the “SPIRIT OF GOD”, moved upon the face ofthe waters. 3, AND “GOD SAID”, let there be light: and there was light.

    Where is JESUS mentioned there? Are not those scriptures in your bible also, and if they are do you just change them to say something different as you have with John 1:2&3.? Why is it that people who preach a false JESUS have to force texts to say what they “specifically” do not say, they try to make us believe some type of “mysterious religion”, based on suppositions they have conjured up.

    peace and love to you and yours ……..gene

    #812247
    terraricca
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    Gene

    Gen 1:1-3 , in THE BEGINNING “GOD CREATED”, the heaven AND the earth. 2, and the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the “SPIRIT OF GOD”, moved upon the face of the waters. 3, AND “GOD SAID”, let there be light: and there was light.

    tell me what you learning in those scriptures ?

    #812268
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    And if he replies will we hear

    no

    no

    no

    from you?

    #812273
    terraricca
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    Nick

    i cannot deny the truth of God for if i do , then I forfeit my own faith ,

    #812282
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    How do you decide what is the truth of God?

    how do you prove it?

    #812294
    terraricca
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    Nick

    all what you think and say must be in accordance with the whole scriptures written word and the spirit thereof,

    and you have to also walk accordingly to that knowledge with all your mind.heart.and strength, so that it is God that walks through you ,and not your own ,in this way you can be called a man of God /Christ

    it is not easy to do but as you go it becomes more and more easier and enjoyable because the miracle that comes with it ;

    #812298
    GeneBalthrop
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    Terraricca…..question was how do you get JESUS DOING THE CREATING IN Gen 1:1-3, what i kbow is this that GOD ALMIGHTY SAID LET THERE BELIGHT AND IT WAS SO, and i seeno mention of JESUS SAYING THAT AS YOU FALSELY TEACH. AND JOHN 1: 1-3 isnot talking about JESUS BUT GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF. Anyone who does not understand this is not abiding in the truth.

    Terraricca…tell us what is the difference between you religion you teac and nearlt all Christendom teaches. You are decieved just as much as they are, no diffetence,, because you believe and preach the same things the do. But we are told to come out of her that we recieve not of her plegues. Youhavebought into tgebiggest LIE TO TO HUMANITY 2Ths 2, and becauseof not loving the truth GOD HAS SENT YOU A “DELUDING” SPIRIT INORDER FOR YOU TO “BELIEVE” A “LIE”. THAT LIE IS THAT JESUS IS A GOD AND THAT HE PREEXISTED HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH AND THING LIKE HE CREATED EVERY THING,WHICH is also a LIE.

    IF YOU HAVEN’T COME TO SEE THESE THING YOU HAVEN’T EVEN BEGUN TO KNOW TGE TRUTH OF GOD.IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

    #812299
    terraricca
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    Gene

    how did you created your children ? or was it God that created them through you and your wife ?

    scriptures don’t say that Jesus created anything ;it say that God created all things THROUGH HIM ,can you understand this ?

    #812300
    terraricca
    Participant

    Gene
    Terraricca…tell us what is the difference between you religion you teac and nearlt all Christendom teaches. You are decieved just as much as they are, no diffetence,, because you believe and preach the same things the do. But we are told to come out of her that we recieve not of her plegues. Youhavebought into tgebiggest LIE TO TO HUMANITY 2Ths 2, and becauseof not loving the truth GOD HAS SENT YOU A “DELUDING” SPIRIT INORDER FOR YOU TO “BELIEVE” A “LIE”. THAT LIE IS THAT JESUS IS A GOD AND THAT HE PREEXISTED HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH AND THING LIKE HE CREATED EVERY THING,WHICH is also a LIE.

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    your opinion is not good enough ,so show scriptures and show what i teach is wrong in them ;

    if you cannot do this this will show where you stand right ? yes

    #812301
    GeneBalthrop
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    TERRARICCA. …. NO SCRIPTURE IN Genesis says GOD created any thing “through” anyone. BUTWE DOHAVE SCRIPTURES THAT SAY THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING “BY HIMSELF” AND “ALONE” NEED PROOF? READ Isa 44:24..Thus says the LORD,thy redeemer, and he that formed you form the womb, I am the LORD THAT MAKES “ALL” THINGS; THAT SCREACHED forth the heaven “ALONE” that spreads abroad the earth, “BY MYSELF”.

    WHY DO YOU TRY TO STILL GLORY FROM THE FATHER AND APPLY IT TO A MAN, JESUS? YOU ARE COMMITING “IDOLATRY” AND DON’T EVEN KNOW IT PIERRE.

    Robbing GOD THE FATHER AND PAYING JESUS, IS SOMETHING JESUS NEVER DID. JESUS, While in the form (“nature” of GOD WHEN HE WAS ON THIS EARTH through the anointing spirit of God ), THOUGHT NOT TO ROB GOD TO MAKE HIMSELF EQUAL WITH HIM, BUT YOU AND ALL FALSE TEACHER DO TRY TO ROB GOD AND MAKE JESUS EQUAL WITH HIM.

    YOU HAVE MADE HIM YOUR OBJECT OF WORSHIP, JUST AS 2Ths2 says, and you are suffering the consequences of a deluded mind sent to you from GOD, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BELIEVE THE “LIE”, BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT RECIEVED THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, JUST AS IT SAYS, YOU HAVE BOUGHT INTO SATAN’S LIE AS NEARLY “ALL” CHRISTENDOM HAS. HIS “DOCTRINE OF SEPERATION” WHICH YOU PREACH. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

    #812302
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    So you must decide what the whole of scripture says.

    Then you must decide how to walk in this light.

     

    Is it really all about you?

    #812307
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    you are hard to show truth ;

    you have the scriptures right ? I hope so ,but do you believe them ?

    are you believe them with reserve ? like only what you want ? this cannot be their is no such a thing than only believing half way

    do you so understand the whole scriptures or do you only understand what you have chosen to believe ?

    this is your decision not mine ,I already did my home work

    #812308
    NickHassan
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    Hi t,

    But has the right foundation been laid?

    #812322
    terraricca
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    Nick

    But has the right foundation been laid?
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    1CO 3:11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    EPH 2:20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,
    1TI 6:19 storing up for themselves the treasure of a good foundation for the future, so that they may take hold of that which is life indeed.

    2TI 2:19 Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, “ The Lord knows those who are His,” and, “ Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness.”

    LK 6:48 he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built.

    #812323
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    The rock is the Spirit.

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