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  • #322574
    Ed J
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    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:34)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,15:03)
    Just like 1 Tim 3:16 says,  When did God become Flesh, at birth.  Not at the Jordan.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    That is not what 1Tim 3:16 says.


    “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with
    power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were
    oppressed of the devil; for God was [within] him.” (Acts 10:38)

    #322576
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:34)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,15:03)
    Just like 1 Tim 3:16 says,  When did God become Flesh, at birth.  Not at the Jordan.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    That is not what 1Tim 3:16 says.


    “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with
     power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were
     oppressed of the devil; for God was [within] him.” (Acts 10:38)


    “the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)

    #322578
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:36)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,15:34)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,15:03)
    Just like 1 Tim 3:16 says,  When did God become Flesh, at birth.  Not at the Jordan.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    That is not what 1Tim 3:16 says.


    “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with
     power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were
     oppressed of the devil; for God was [within] him.” (Acts 10:38)


    “the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)

    Here is what 1Tim 3:16 is saying…

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh(John 1:14),
     justified in the Spirit(through Jesus resurrection), seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
     believed on in the world, (The Word remained in Jesus and was) received up into glory.”

    #322583
    Marlin1
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    According to you my brother.  

    The New Testament gave us three physical Divine orders.
    What were they?

    The Gospel is made up of the Word, not just those parts we like.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    You mean according to YOU.  –  so until you tell me I will be waiting for you answer.

    Brother Ed,

    Divine Orders.

    1)  Acts 2:38, MARK 16:16, Acts 2:41, ACTS 8:12, ACTS 8:38, ACTS 10:48, ACTS 19:5
    Water Baptism in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is one divine order.

    2)  LUKE 22:19, MARK 14:22, MAT 26:26, I COR 10:16, I COR 11:24
    Communion is divine order number two.

    3)  JOHN 13:14
    Footwashing is divine order number three.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322584
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    “the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)

    Brother Ed, This is true,  He is both MAN and GOD,  the GOD MAN.
    JOHN 6:63 † It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322585
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,16:02)

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    According to you my brother.  

    The New Testament gave us three physical Divine orders.
    What were they?

    The Gospel is made up of the Word, not just those parts we like.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    You mean according to YOU.  –  so until you tell me I will be waiting for you answer.

    Brother Ed,

    Divine Orders.

    1)  Acts 2:38, MARK 16:16, Acts 2:41, ACTS 8:12, ACTS 8:38, ACTS 10:48, ACTS 19:5
    Water Baptism in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is one divine order.

    2)  LUKE 22:19, MARK 14:22, MAT 26:26, I COR 10:16, I COR 11:24
    Communion is divine order number two.

    3)  JOHN 13:14
    Footwashing is divine order number three.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Is that what you believe?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322586
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,14:03)

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:57)

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    Brother Ed,

    why would you think the flesh man Jesus would not pray to God the Father.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    Can you please highlight your answer for me?


    Hi Bro Marlin,

    If you say Jesus was God, who was he praying to?         <– please do answer

    So is YOUR answer then:  He prayed to “God”, who is his Father ?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Marlin?

    #322587
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,16:11)

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    “the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.” (John 14:10)

    Brother Ed, This is true,  He is both MAN and GOD,  the GOD MAN.
    JOHN 6:63 † It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Is man 100% not God?     <– please answer

    Please: I no-one likes it when you dodge questions,
    or alter your answer to answer a question that is not asked.

    So please answer the actual question that I have asked. Waiting on two now.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322593
    Marlin1
    Participant

    Brothers, I can certainly see why Jesus said this.

    I have added words in CAPS.
    MAT 16:17 † And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed ,[TAUGHT], it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven, [HAS REVEALED IT TO YOU].

    God Himself became Flesh and dwelt among us.  It seems that some of you think for God to become Flesh would require Him to no longer be SPIRIT.

    God's own law required a blood sacrifice for sin.  Yet God almighty could not die and shed blood, for He was and is a SPIRIT.

    So God's Great Thoughts went out from Him as the LOGOS (the Word), that Word He called the Son of God.

    That same LOGOS, (Word), God in His Son-ship became FLESH with the birth of Jesus.

    This was not another God as some think, it was God projecting His self so as to become a saviour for mankind.

    It was a revelation then who Christ was and it still has to be revealed by God today.

    And Jesus went on to say, upon this revelation I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
    MAT 16:18

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322596
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,11:02)

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    According to you my brother.  

    The New Testament gave us three physical Divine orders.
    What were they?

    The Gospel is made up of the Word, not just those parts we like.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    You mean according to YOU.  –  so until you tell me I will be waiting for you answer.

    Brother Ed,

    Divine Orders.

    1)  Acts 2:38, MARK 16:16, Acts 2:41, ACTS 8:12, ACTS 8:38, ACTS 10:48, ACTS 19:5
    Water Baptism in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ is one divine order.

    2)  LUKE 22:19, MARK 14:22, MAT 26:26, I COR 10:16, I COR 11:24
    Communion is divine order number two.

    3)  JOHN 13:14
    Footwashing is divine order number three.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    so we are now back into the law ,with those rituals you tell us ???

    how is it that the ritual of circumcision did not save the Israelites why you think this rituals will save you ???

    #322597
    terraricca
    Participant

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    And Jesus went on to say, upon this revelation I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
    MAT 16:18

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    what that mean ???

    #322598
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    So is YOUR answer then:  He prayed to “God”, who is his Father ?

    Brother Ed, this is true, as I have already told you, flesh will always be in subjection to Spirit.

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    Is man 100% not God?     <– please answer

    If a man is not the fullness of God in Flesh, then He is not Jesus.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322602
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    o we are now back into the law ,with those rituals you tell us ???

    how is it that the ritual of circumcision did not save the Israelites why you think this rituals will save you

    Brother Pierre,

    If your master tells you to do something in remembrance of Him,  Do you do it because it is a law or because you Love Him.   Or do you just ignore Him

    If you serve God because it is a law then you are still under the law.
    Those that are His serve Him because they LOVE Him and OBEY what He ask them to do.

    If we don't then we prove we are not His at all.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322607
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,16:17)
    Hi Marlin,

    Is man 100% not God?     <– please answer

    Please: I no-one likes it when you dodge questions,
    or alter your answer to answer a question that is not asked.

    So please answer the actual question that I have asked. Waiting on two now.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Here is what I said before, which needs repeating.

    Waiting only on one now.

    #322608
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,18:03)

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    (Q:1)So is YOUR answer then:  He prayed to “God”, who is his Father ?

    (A:1)Brother Ed, this is true, as I have already told you, flesh will always be in subjection to Spirit.

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    (Q:2)Is man 100% not God?     <– please answer

    (A:2)If a man is not the fullness of God in Flesh, then He is not Jesus.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    Hi Marlin,

    Great you actually answered question #1.

    I did NOT ask about the fullness of God in Flesh.
    So clearly you have invented your own question to answer

    Now you please also answer question #2?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322610
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Marlin,

    I will make my question easier for you to answer:

    Man is not God    <– is this statement true or false?

    Since I have not asked you about Jesus, please try to resist incorporating him into your answer this time; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #322630
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 29 2012,13:16)

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    o we are now back into the law ,with those rituals you tell us ???

    how is it that the ritual of circumcision did not save the Israelites why you think this rituals will save you

    Brother Pierre,

    If your master tells you to do something in remembrance of Him,  Do you do it because it is a law or because you Love Him.   Or do you just ignore Him

    If you serve God because it is a law then you are still under the law.
    Those that are His serve Him because they LOVE Him and OBEY what He ask them to do.

    If we don't then we prove we are not His at all.

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    but what about obeying these words of Christ ;
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    if you have the above you will practice the love in your heart,no doubts about it

    #322663
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    I will make my question easier for you to answer:

    Man is not God    <– is this statement true or false?

    Brother Ed,

    This Question I will answer with a question.

    Does a Son's DNA makeup Who He Is?

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322665
    Marlin1
    Participant

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    but what about obeying these words of Christ ;
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    if you have the above you will practice the love in your heart,no doubts about it

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    Does it not prove that a man that will not obey His masters requests is NOT worshiping in SPIRIT or TRUTH.

    Which then the Master says,
    MAT 15:9 † But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    This means, that they TRULY WORSHIP HIM, but it is WASTED, because they do not keep HIS WORDS, but have their own words.

    Jesus said those that LOVE HIM will keep His Words.
    JOHN 14:15 † If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    JOHN 14:23 † Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin

    #322667
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,05:38)

    Quote
    but what about obeying these words of Christ ;
    Jn 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.
    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    if you have the above you will practice the love in your heart,no doubts about it

    ————–
    Pierre

    Brother Pierre,

    Does it not prove that a man that will not obey His masters requests is NOT worshiping in SPIRIT or TRUTH.

    Which then the Master says,
    MAT 15:9 † But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    This means, that they TRULY WORSHIP HIM, but it is WASTED, because they do not keep HIS WORDS, but have their own words.

    Jesus said those that LOVE HIM will keep His Words.
    JOHN 14:15 † If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    JOHN 14:23 † Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:

    God Bless
    bro. Marlin


    m1

    JOHN 14:15 † If ye love me, keep my commandments.
    JOHN 14:23 † Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:

    AND WHAT ARE THEY ??? scriptures not opinions

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