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    terraricca
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    He came in the *SPIRIT OF ELIJAH*.

    what iS THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH ???? (MEANING )


    Terra.

    When you go preaching the gospel.
    Do you preach in the **spirit of Christ** or
    in the spirit of **mans teachings**?

    This is what I mean. That spirit;not the spirit as the soul.

    Elijah has his own soul and John has his own soul.
    But both are in the same spirit of Christ.
    We true believers preach in the spirit of Christ.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NO ANSWER ;THIS LOOKS LIKE POLITICS;

    I DO NOT DO WORLD POLITICS ;

    SO ANSWER THE QUESTION OR IGNORE IT ;

    IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WELL SAY SO ,WE CAN LOOK AT IT ;BUT DO NOT GIVE ME THOSE REPHRASED QUESTIONS ,


    Pierre,

    John came in the “spirit of Elijah” meaning, John has the same spirit as Elijah.  John worships the God of Elijah.  They have that same spirit, the same God.


    J42

    YES ;AGREE ;BUT MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS THE “SPIRIT OF ELIJAH ???


    Hi Pierre

    I just told you.


    The same Spirit that worships and trusts in God.

    Elijah was a prophet of old,
    & John the baptist was the last prophet under the old law.
    John was used by God to prepare the way for Christ (announce him)
    Johns spirit was of God,
    so was elijah's
    So John came in the spirit of Elijah, the same spirit that publicly declares God's truth, the spirit of a prophet sent by God.


    j42

    the “spirit of Elijah “” as a meaning and special reason why the scriptures are using that toward John the baptist ,

    just as “the spirit of prophecy ” = is THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS “

    IF WE NEGLECT THOSE UNDERSTANDING THEN WHO ARE WE FALLOWING HERE ???

    #358089
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:08)

    Quote (journey42 @ Sep. 16 2013,16:50)

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,04:56)
    wakeup

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    He came in the *SPIRIT OF ELIJAH*.

    what iS THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH ???? (MEANING )


    Terra.

    When you go preaching the gospel.
    Do you preach in the **spirit of Christ** or
    in the spirit of **mans teachings**?

    This is what I mean. That spirit;not the spirit as the soul.

    Elijah has his own soul and John has his own soul.
    But both are in the same spirit of Christ.
    We true believers preach in the spirit of Christ.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NO ANSWER ;THIS LOOKS LIKE POLITICS;

    I DO NOT DO WORLD POLITICS ;

    SO ANSWER THE QUESTION OR IGNORE IT ;

    IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WELL SAY SO ,WE CAN LOOK AT IT ;BUT DO NOT GIVE ME THOSE REPHRASED QUESTIONS ,


    Pierre,

    John came in the “spirit of Elijah” meaning, John has the same spirit as Elijah.  John worships the God of Elijah.  They have that same spirit, the same God.


    J42

    YES ;AGREE ;BUT MY QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS THE “SPIRIT OF ELIJAH ???


    Hi Pierre

    I just told you.


    The same Spirit that worships and trusts in God.

    Elijah was a prophet of old,
    & John the baptist was the last prophet under the old law.
    John was used by God to prepare the way for Christ (announce him)
    Johns spirit was of God,
    so was elijah's
    So John came in the spirit of Elijah, the same spirit that publicly declares God's truth, the spirit of a prophet sent by God.


    j42

    the “spirit of Elijah “” as a meaning and special reason why the scriptures are using that toward John the baptist ,

    just as “the spirit of prophecy ” =  is THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS “

    IF WE NEGLECT THOSE UNDERSTANDING THEN WHO ARE WE FALLOWING HERE ???


    Hi Pierre

    I don't know what you mean?

    Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

    The above tells me that that if one has the spirit of prophecy, then he is a true witness of Jesus.
    or if one is a true witness of Jesus,
    then he will have the spirit of prophecy.
    John was definately one of those belonging to Christ.

    Why do I think that? Because those that are Christ's true witnesses have taken the time to feed on his flesh (his word) and have found the full truth even of things to come (the prophecy's)

    #358092
    terraricca
    Participant

    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???

    #358200
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.

    #358208
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,

    #358284
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,00:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,


    You said once that every man sin he carries for himself.
    One person can not put on another person's righteousness.

    Now you say that is being selfish?

    wakeup.

    #358291
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 21 2013,17:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,00:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,


    You said once that every man sin he carries for himself.
    One person can not put on another person's righteousness.

    Now you say that is being selfish?

    wakeup.


    is that the true reason to believe in God and his son ;TO GAIN FOR YOURSELF EVERLASTING LIFE ??? IF YES THEN YOU MAY LOSE YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYING ,

    #358312
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 21 2013,17:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,00:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,


    You said once that every man sin he carries for himself.
    One person can not put on another person's righteousness.

    Now you say that is being selfish?

    wakeup.


    is that the true reason to believe in God and his son ;TO GAIN FOR YOURSELF EVERLASTING LIFE ??? IF YES THEN YOU MAY LOSE YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYING ,


    Terra.

    1 Corinthians 12:31 ***But covet earnestly the best gifts***: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    **COVET THE BEST GIFTS** LOVE COVERS ALL THE GIFTS
    WE NEED TO COVET THAT TOO.

    TO YOU TERRA,THIS IS BEING SELFISH.

    wakeup.

    #358334
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 22 2013,03:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 21 2013,17:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,00:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,


    You said once that every man sin he carries for himself.
    One person can not put on another person's righteousness.

    Now you say that is being selfish?

    wakeup.


    is that the true reason to believe in God and his son ;TO GAIN FOR YOURSELF EVERLASTING LIFE ??? IF YES THEN YOU MAY LOSE YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYING ,


    Terra.

    1 Corinthians 12:31   ***But covet earnestly the best gifts***: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    **COVET THE BEST GIFTS** LOVE COVERS ALL THE GIFTS
    WE NEED TO COVET THAT TOO.

    TO YOU TERRA,THIS IS BEING SELFISH.

    wakeup.


    IT SEEMS YOU ONLY PICK AND CHOSE YOUR PARTS OF VERSES THAT YOU LIKE ,

    AND THEN THINK THAT,THIS IS THE WAY ;

    WHY DO YOU NOT SHOW ALL OF THE VERSES IN CONTEXT ;AND LEARN

    #358342
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,10:45)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 22 2013,03:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,01:24)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 21 2013,17:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 21 2013,00:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 20 2013,18:35)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 19 2013,20:24)
    Why are you always looking for men benefit in God spirit ???


    Terra.

    Is gaining everlasting life not for your benefit?
    Was Jesus crucified not for mens benefit?
    Are you not searching the scriptures for your benefit?

    wakeup.


    SELFISH VIEW,CORRUPTED MIND ,NOT OF CHRIST OR HIS FATHER ,


    You said once that every man sin he carries for himself.
    One person can not put on another person's righteousness.

    Now you say that is being selfish?

    wakeup.


    is that the true reason to believe in God and his son ;TO GAIN FOR YOURSELF EVERLASTING LIFE ??? IF YES THEN YOU MAY LOSE YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYING ,


    Terra.

    1 Corinthians 12:31   ***But covet earnestly the best gifts***: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

    **COVET THE BEST GIFTS** LOVE COVERS ALL THE GIFTS
    WE NEED TO COVET THAT TOO.

    TO YOU TERRA,THIS IS BEING SELFISH.

    wakeup.


    IT SEEMS YOU ONLY PICK AND CHOSE YOUR PARTS OF VERSES THAT YOU LIKE ,

    AND THEN THINK THAT,THIS IS THE WAY ;

    WHY DO YOU NOT SHOW ALL OF THE VERSES IN CONTEXT ;AND LEARN


    Terra.

    You are trampling on pearls given to you,
    then turn around and attack.

    wakeup.

    #358359
    terraricca
    Participant

    you are interpreting the words of Paul ,as for the gift of Prophecy

    1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
    1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
    1Co 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

    you believe that because you come up with some type of understanding ,it will elevate you some how ,or show something i do not know what ;

    it is called DECEIT not because it can corrupt the truth or true believers but both ,

    but enough said YOU NOW CAN SPREAD YOUR DECEIT ,I WILL STOP RESPONDING ;

    #358662
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,15:10)
    you are interpreting the words of Paul ,as for the gift of Prophecy

    1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
    1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
    1Co 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

    you believe that because you come up with some type of understanding ,it will elevate you some how ,or show something i do not know what ;

    it is called DECEIT not because it can corrupt the truth or true believers but both ,

    but enough said YOU NOW CAN SPREAD YOUR DECEIT ,I WILL STOP RESPONDING ;


    So you dont *DESIRE* SPIRITUAL GIFTS.
    Because it is just being selfish.
    Is that it??
    You dont *DESIRE* EVERLASTING LIFE,BECAUSE THAT IS JUST BEING SELFISH?
    What sort of faith have you picked up during your years
    of reading?

    wakeup.

    #359058
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,17:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,15:10)
    you are interpreting the words of Paul ,as for the gift of Prophecy

    1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
    1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
    1Co 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

    you believe that because you come up with some type of understanding ,it will elevate you some how ,or show something i do not know what ;

    it is called DECEIT not because it can corrupt the truth or true believers but both ,

    but enough said YOU NOW CAN SPREAD YOUR DECEIT ,I WILL STOP RESPONDING ;


    So you dont *DESIRE* SPIRITUAL GIFTS.
    Because it is just being selfish.
    Is that it??
    You dont *DESIRE* EVERLASTING LIFE,BECAUSE THAT IS JUST BEING SELFISH?
    What sort of faith have you picked up during your years
    of reading?

    wakeup.


    My prayer to my heavenly father was always to become usefull to him,

    To be part of any usefull work I would be good for,

    And that under any circumstance he would not abandon me,but always show me his truth in scriptures,so I may never be deceived ,

    #359068
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,14:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,17:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,15:10)
    you are interpreting the words of Paul ,as for the gift of Prophecy

    1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
    1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
    1Co 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

    you believe that because you come up with some type of understanding ,it will elevate you some how ,or show something i do not know what ;

    it is called DECEIT not because it can corrupt the truth or true believers but both ,

    but enough said YOU NOW CAN SPREAD YOUR DECEIT ,I WILL STOP RESPONDING ;


    So you dont *DESIRE* SPIRITUAL GIFTS.
    Because it is just being selfish.
    Is that it??
    You dont *DESIRE* EVERLASTING LIFE,BECAUSE THAT IS JUST BEING SELFISH?
    What sort of faith have you picked up during your years
    of reading?

    wakeup.


    My prayer to my heavenly father was always to become usefull to him,

    To be part of any usefull work I would be good for,

    And that under any circumstance he would not abandon me,but always show me his truth in scriptures,so I may never be deceived ,


    Matthew 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that
    ***thy brother hath ought against thee***;

    Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way;
    ****first be reconciled to thy brother****,
    and then come and offer thy gift.

    FIRST RECONCILE TO YOUR BROTHER, AND THEN PRAY.
    YOU GET IT?

    wakeup.

    #359074
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,14:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 30 2013,14:50)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 25 2013,17:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 22 2013,15:10)
    you are interpreting the words of Paul ,as for the gift of Prophecy

    1Co 14:1 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy.
    1Co 14:6 Now, brothers, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction?
    1Co 14:22 Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.

    you believe that because you come up with some type of understanding ,it will elevate you some how ,or show something i do not know what ;

    it is called DECEIT not because it can corrupt the truth or true believers but both ,

    but enough said YOU NOW CAN SPREAD YOUR DECEIT ,I WILL STOP RESPONDING ;


    So you dont *DESIRE* SPIRITUAL GIFTS.
    Because it is just being selfish.
    Is that it??
    You dont *DESIRE* EVERLASTING LIFE,BECAUSE THAT IS JUST BEING SELFISH?
    What sort of faith have you picked up during your years
    of reading?

    wakeup.


    My prayer to my heavenly father was always to become usefull to him,

    To be part of any usefull work I would be good for,

    And that under any circumstance he would not abandon me,but always show me his truth in scriptures,so I may never be deceived ,


    Matthew 5:23   Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that
    ***thy brother hath ought against thee***;

     Matthew 5:24   Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way;
    ****first be reconciled to thy brother****,
    and then come and offer thy gift.

    FIRST RECONCILE TO YOUR BROTHER, AND THEN PRAY.
    YOU GET IT?

    wakeup.


    the temple has been destroyed ,so no more altar ;

    you quoting scriptures and use them for your own benefit ,THE BELIEVERS ARE NOT STIMULATED BY IT THEY SEE FALSE CONCEPT AND DECEIT IN THEM

    YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT ADDRESSED THOSE SCRIPTURES TO HIMSELF MANY RELIGION DENOMINATION DO THIS ;AND HAVE BEEN PROVEN LIARS AND FALSE PROPHET ,

    IT IS EASY TO SELF CLAIM THIS AND THAT ……. BUT THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT GOES TRUTH AND GODLY LOVE HAVE TO BE PART OF IT ,

    #359077
    Wakeup
    Participant

    You are a self centred proud old man,
    What is your use to put your
    hands togeter and pray?

    We are suppose to be like children.

    wakeup.

    #359089
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,20:00)
    You are a self centred proud old man,
    What is your use to put your
    hands togeter and pray?

    We are suppose to be like children.

    wakeup.


    :D :D

    Quote
    We are suppose to be like children.

    NO, WHAT YOU MEAN IS ALL OTHER ARE TO BE LIKE YOUR CHILDREN AND SO YOU WOULD BE LIKE A FATHER TO THEM ,THIS IS MORE LIKE IT OF WHAT YOU MEAN ;

    DO NOT FORGET TO ANSWER ME MY QUESTIONS ON ISRAEL ,

    #359103
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2013,05:31)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,20:00)
    You are a self centred proud old man,
    What is your use to put your
    hands togeter and pray?

    We are suppose to be like children.

    wakeup.


    :D  :D

    Quote
    We are suppose to be like children.

    NO, WHAT YOU MEAN IS ALL OTHER ARE TO BE LIKE YOUR CHILDREN AND SO YOU WOULD BE LIKE A FATHER TO THEM ,THIS IS MORE LIKE IT OF WHAT YOU MEAN ;

    DO NOT FORGET TO ANSWER ME MY QUESTIONS ON ISRAEL ,


    I have answered it on the other post,
    where you put the question.

    wakeup.

    #359105
    Wakeup
    Participant

    In prophesy on page 6.
    You are asking me the same question on every
    subject posts just to confuse me.

    wakeup.

    #359137
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 01 2013,03:35)
    In prophesy on page 6.
    You are asking me the same question on every
    subject posts just to confuse me.

    wakeup.


    no i do not want to confuse you ,i am looking for an answer ,

    but it seems you can not answer those question and so what you are saying about today's Israel is false ;

    this I agree with

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