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[Marlin1]

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JOHN 14:23 † Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: AND WHAT ARE THEY scriptures not opinions ————– Pierre

Brother Pierre,

Did you not read both scriptures.

In the first scripture I showed,  He Keep his Commandments,  right?   LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF
fulfills the commandments.

In the second scripture, He says keep my Words

Acts 2:38, Would you say that this is His Words?

LUKE 22:19 † And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.

Would you say this is His Words?

JOHN 13:14 † If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.

Would you say this is His Words?

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,06:58)

Quote JOHN 14:23 † Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: AND WHAT ARE THEY scriptures not opinions ————– Pierre Brother Pierre, Did you not read both scriptures. In the first scripture I showed,  He Keep his Commandments,  right?   LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF fulfills the commandments. In the second scripture, He says keep my Words Acts 2:38, Would you say that this is His Words? LUKE 22:19 † And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Would you say this is His Words? JOHN 13:14 † If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. Would you say this is His Words? God Bless bro. Marlin

m1

yes i know those scriptures very well ,so now are those scriptures to be taken literally as said or did Christ had a meaning to what he said

what do you think

( you did not quote them in full)

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,10:24)

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,18:40) Hi Marlin, Man is not God    <– is this statement true or false? Since I have not asked you about Jesus, please try to resist incorporating him into your answer this time; OK? God bless Ed J Brother Ed, Does a Son's DNA makeup Who He Is? God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

Yes, now will you answer my question without further diversions.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Marlin1]

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Man is not God    <– is this statement true or false? Since I have not asked you about Jesus, please try to resist incorporating him into your answer this time; OK? God bless Ed J Brother Ed, Does a Son's DNA makeup Who He Is? God Bless bro. Marlin Hi Marlin, Yes,

Brother Ed,

You answered the question, Jesus (a man) was GOD.  For His DNA was of GOD alone.

bro. Marlin

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,13:55)

Brother Ed, For His DNA was of GOD alone. bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin, not so.

How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother?

“Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of
  the seed of David according to the flesh;” (Romans 1:3)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Marlin1]

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Acts 2:38, Would you say that this is His Words? LUKE 22:19 † And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Would you say this is His Words? JOHN 13:14 † If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. Would you say this is His Words? God Bless bro. Marlin m1 yes i know those scriptures very well ,so now are those scriptures to be taken literally as said or did Christ had a meaning to what he said what do you think ( you did not quote them in full)

Brother Pierre,

I expect you will read all of the scripture , but sometimes when I show the whole quote, the reason for showing it is not seen.

Now with your question, Do you think it was symbolic?

Acts 2:38, was it symbolic or did they do it that way in the true church.

Luke 23:19, was it symbolic or did He do it.

John 13:14, was it symbolic or did He wash their feed and say for us to do the same.

He wasn't speaking in symbolism, He knew that those that loved Him would do what He ask them to do.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother? “Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of  the seed of David according to the flesh;” (Romans 1:3) God bless Ed J

Brother Ed,

Let all things be confirmed with two or three witnesses.

LUKE 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

Because He was born to Joseph and Mary, that is how.

Not ONE person on the earth at the time before Jesus birth was without sin, when BORN. And not one person, other then Jesus after His birth is BORN without SIN.  

So you make Jesus a SINNER and of NO USE to YOU.

Even if I can not explain your scripture, I do understand the SIN NATURE of MAN, it is passed with the flesh, from flesh to flesh to flesh.

You were born in Sin, Shaped in iniquity, come to the world speaking LIES.

If you understood why you and I are BORN sinners, then you would understand this.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,09:22)

Quote Acts 2:38, Would you say that this is His Words? LUKE 22:19 † And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Would you say this is His Words? JOHN 13:14 † If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. Would you say this is His Words? God Bless bro. Marlin m1 yes i know those scriptures very well ,so now are those scriptures to be taken literally as said or did Christ had a meaning to what he said what do you think ( you did not quote them in full) Brother Pierre, I expect you will read all of the scripture , but sometimes when I show the whole quote, the reason for showing it is not seen. Now with your question, Do you think it was symbolic? Acts 2:38, was it symbolic or did they do it that way in the true church. Luke 23:19, was it symbolic or did He do it. John 13:14, was it symbolic or did He wash their feed and say for us to do the same. He wasn't speaking in symbolism, He knew that those that loved Him would do what He ask them to do. God Bless bro. Marlin

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Ac 2:36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
Ac 2:37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Ac 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

first it is not Jesus that speaks ,secondly Peter call them all his brothers why

because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites,

Lk 22:14 When the hour came, Jesus and his apostles reclined at the table.
Lk 22:15 And he said to them, “I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.
Lk 22:16 For I tell you, I will not eat it again until it finds fulfillment in the kingdom of God.”
Lk 22:17 After taking the cup, he gave thanks and said, “Take this and divide it among you.
Lk 22:18 For I tell you I will not drink again of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”
Lk 22:19 And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”
Lk 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.
Lk 22:21 But the hand of him who is going to betray me is with mine on the table.
Lk 22:22 The Son of Man will go as it has been decreed, but woe to that man who betrays him.”

so it was Jesus at this supper that intentionly made a new covenant with his 11 disciples no one else it seems so now you generalize this covenant to us but we are the fruits of that covenant not the other party

Jn 13:13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am.
Jn 13:14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet.
Jn 13:15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you.
Jn 13:16 I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
Jn 13:17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

Mt 20:25 Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.
Mt 20:26 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,
Mt 20:27 and whoever wants to be first must be your slave—

what you think his the message in John 13 and mat 20

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,14:41)

Quote How can Jesus be of the lineage of David if Mary is not his biological Mother? “Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of  the seed of David according to the flesh;” (Romans 1:3) God bless Ed J Brother Ed, Let all things be confirmed with two or three witnesses. LUKE 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

Of course Joseph wasn't Jesus father.
But Mary clearly was Jesus' Mother.
The Lineage in Luke 3 is Mary's.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,14:41)

Brother Ed, So you make Jesus a SINNER and of NO USE to YOU. God Bless bro. Marlin

You do know that bearing false witness is a sin, right?
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Ac 2:36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” Ac 2:37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” Ac 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. first it is not Jesus that speaks ,secondly Peter call them all his brothers why because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites,

Brother Pierre,

Is not God the author of all the bible.  So you can only use some of the writing in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.  Only the words that Jesus spoke. The rest you can not use, because, TO YOU, it was written by man.

You said, because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites
This statement is not TRUE, it is a bad teaching.

The very next verse says who it is for.
ACTS 2:39 † For the promise is unto you(JEW), and to your children(THEIR CHILDREN), and to all that are afar off(THE GENTILES), even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

And He is still calling, for a very short time longer.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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Brother Ed, So you make Jesus a SINNER and of NO USE to YOU. God Bless bro. Marlin You do know that bearing false witness is a sin, right?

Brother Ed,

It is not me, that is trying to make Him born of Sinful Flesh.  It is YOU.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Ed J]

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Hi Marlin, Man is not God    <– is this statement true or false? God bless Ed J

Hi Marlin,

“(1)God is not a man, that he should lie;
 (2)neither the son of man” (Num 23:19)

                      1) God is not a man
                      2) neither the son of man

Did Jesus not in FACT call himself  “The Son of Man”?
How do you incorporate these FACTS into your doctrine?

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                     Jesus of the seed of David

“Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed
  of David according to the flesh (Mary being Jesus' biological Mother);” (Rom.1:3)

Shall we just pretend that these verses don't exist, and continue
with the traditions of men that the systems of religion have taught?    (See Col.2:22)

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 30 2012,17:22)

Quote Brother Ed, So you make Jesus a SINNER and of NO USE to YOU. God Bless bro. Marlin You do know that bearing false witness is a sin, right? Brother Ed, It is not me, that is trying to make Him born of Sinful Flesh.  It is YOU. God Bless bro. Marlin

Hi Marlin,

When are you going to stop trying to put words in my mouth.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 30 2012,17:26)

Marlin1,Nov. wrote: Quote Brother Ed, It is not me, that is trying to make Him born of Sinful Flesh.  It is YOU. God Bless bro. Marlin Hi Marlin, When are you going to stop trying to put words in my mouth.

Hi Marlin,

Here is what Shaool (The Apostle Paul) said: (I did NOT say this, he did)

“For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin,
condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might
be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”    (Rom 8:3-4)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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You said, because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites This statement is not TRUE, it is a bad teaching

JN 1:31 “I did not recognize Him, but so that He might be manifested to Israel, I came baptizing in water.”

is it bad teaching

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You said, because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites This statement is not TRUE, it is a bad teaching. The very next verse says who it is for. ACTS 2:39 † For the promise is unto you(JEW), and to your children(THEIR CHILDREN), and to all that are afar off(THE GENTILES), even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

I hope you can see how you interpreting words that are not even in scriptures right

Peter did not have yet encounter Cornelius

[Marlin1]

Brother Ed,

…..God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh

This says it all to the spiritual minded, THE LIKENESS of sinful flesh   Not sinful flesh, but the likeness of.

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1) God is not a man                      2) neither the son of man Did Jesus not in FACT call himself  “The Son of Man”? How do you incorporate these FACTS into your doctrine?

Brother, if you don't know the different between a prophet (son of man) and THE PROPHET (Jesus Christ, THE SON of MAN), I don't know what to tell you.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

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You said, because all the words he said were addressed to Israelites This statement is not TRUE, it is a bad teaching. The very next verse says who it is for. ACTS 2:39 † For the promise is unto you(JEW), and to your children(THEIR CHILDREN), and to all that are afar off(THE GENTILES), even as many as the Lord our God shall call. I hope you can see how you interpreting words that are not even in scriptures right Peter did not have yet encounter Cornelius ————– Pierre

Brother Pierre,

So what, it was not Peter speaking, but God in Peter. And I assure you that God did know about US.

Cornelius is just one of the proofs that Acts 2:39 speaks of the Gentiles too, just as it says.

Sorry you don't believe it to be true, but that doesn't change the facts.

God Bless
bro. Marlin

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Dec. 01 2012,05:42)

Brother Ed, …..God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh This says it all to the spiritual minded, THE LIKENESS of sinful flesh   Not sinful flesh, but the likeness of.

Agreed!  

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