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Hi KW,
Heb 12
You have not yet resisted to the point of shedding blood in your striving against sin; 5 and you have forgotten the exhortation which is addressed to you as sons,
“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
Nor faint when you are reproved by Him;
6 For those whom the Lord loves He disciplines,
And He scourges every son whom He receives.”7 It is for discipline that you endure; God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom his father does not discipline? 8 But if you are without discipline, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. 9 Furthermore, we had earthly fathers to discipline us, and we respected them; shall we not much rather be subject to the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. 11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
Righteousness is the fruit of submission to godly discipline
Hi,Soak up the rain of grace.For ground that drinks the rain which often falls on it and brings forth vegetation useful to those for whose sake it is also tilled, receives a blessing from God;Hi T8,
In trying to expose error you show you are in error.
You cannot hear the voice of the Spirit in the words of Jesus and this is why you teach a SUPERMAN that we cannot follow.
Is that the same superman you use to teach for years on this site when according to you, you were also correct then.
It is obvious by now with the scriptures that have been quoted that Jesus is no ordinary man. He became a man and once existed in the form of God. He was born the Christ, Lord, and son of God as attested to by the angel of God. He is called the ‘Word of God’. He is the firstborn of all creation and the image of the invisible God.
These points are all provable by scripture and thus clearly show us that Jesus was no ordinary man. Time to finish up this thread and move on if you thought otherwise. Don’t let your pride motivate you to fight the truth. You are not fighting me, but scripture. Be wise.
Hi T8,
Only OBVIOUS to those who do not know the Spirit.
There is more than what your eyes currently can see.
T8…..NICK, IS RIGHT, you are stuck in tradition. I know you say you are not a trinitarian, like TERRARICCA, but you both believe and teach much of what they believe, like the prexistence of JESUS, AND MANY OTHER FALSE TEACHINGS THEY ASCRIBE TO. Seek and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH FROM GOD THE FATHER, perhaps by chance he will enlighten you brother.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
t8,
He became a man and once existed in the form of God.
The idea that God has an outward form is an absurd teaching as God created the universe that allows outward forms, whether that of angels, humans, or others, to exist.
Its either God created the heavens and the earth or he did not.
Humanity was created in the form of God but went in search of schemes.
Through faith in Jesus Christ, who bears that express form, those that believe will be restored to the form of God.
Why follow a teaching that is at odds with the first verse of the Bible?
Hi t8,
If Jesus was born anointed and was led by the Spirit from birth
why does scripture say he was born under the Law?
gal 5.18
T8…..YOU SIMPLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE CHRISTO’S, CAME IN THE FLESH MAN JESUS, YOU BELIEVE JESUS WAS BORN A CHRISTO’S, THEREFORE YOU ARE A ANTICHRISTO’S. THAT IS WHAT JOHN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THOSE THAT ARE ANTICHRISTS ARE NOT THOSE AGAINST THE MAN JESUS, BUT AGAINST THE ANOINTING OR CHRISTO’S OF THE MAN JESUS, YOU ARE IN THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, IS THE WAY IT APPEARS T8.
peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Gene, I believe this. So believing this angel makes me an Antichrist?
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Clearly he was the savior, the messiah, and the Lord.
Amen!
The Antichrist is the one who denies that this Jesus in the manger was the Christ.
T8…. THE WORD ANTICHRIST, IS MORE THEN DENYING JESUS WAS ALREADY A CHRISTOS IN THE MANGER, it has to do with, what a Christo’s is, and how it is recieved. IT MUST BE understood as recieving of (the anointing spirit of God), no “FLESH” is born with THE ANOINTING, not even JESUS. NOTICE, JOHN DID NOT SAY a person that believes not, that Jesus came in the flesh, is ANTI-JESUS, “but’, ANTI-CHRIST, or against the ANOINTING OR CHRISTO’S WHICH COMES “INTO” THE “FLESH”.
John’s not talking about JESUS’ the man, but about the ANOINTING COMMING “INTO” THE “FLESH” MAN JESUS. Those Who believed JESUS was already a GOD OR DEVINE BEING, were rejecting him comming into existence as a ordinary “FLESH” man, who had to be ANOINTED by GOD, SO THEY WERE NOT ANTI-JESUS’, BUT “ANTI-CHRISTO’S”. ANOTHER WORDS, THOSE AGAINST THE ANOINTING PROCESS OF THE “FLESH” MAN JESUS, which humanizes him, JOHN was addressing the Gnostic’s, who believed Jesus preexisted as a GOD, and was not an actual “flesh” human who needed to become “anointed” as such by God, as all “flesh” born humans beings have to, in order to be called a CHRISTO’S.
JOHN WAS SIMPLY ADDRESSING THE ANTI-ANOINTING PROCESS PEOPLE WHO BELIEVED HE WAS ALREADY ANOINTED AT HIS COMMING INTO EXISTENCE ON THIS EARTH, Question is T8 who’s camp are you in brother? IMO
peace and love to you and yours… ……..gene
@t8,
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.
Have you considered the flaws in these words of your?
Matthew 1:21Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Your words imply that those are saved are not saved by Jesus’ choice to die on the cross.
Those that believe that Jesus’ choice to sacrifice himself in his mercy know he did not become our Savior until he died on the cross, was resurrected, and ascended to heaven in order to mediate the new covenant.
kerwin, that is right, even though that was JESUS DESTNY from his berth, it didn’t happened untill it took place.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
T8…. THE WORD ANTICHRIST, IS MORE THEN DENYING JESUS WAS ALREADY A CHRISTOS IN THE MANGER, it has to do with, what a Christo’s is, and how it is recieved. IT MUST BE understood as recieving of (the anointing spirit of God), no “FLESH” is born with THE ANOINTING, not even JESUS. NOTICE, JOHN DID NOT SAY a person that believes not, that Jesus came in the flesh, is ANTI-JESUS, “but’, ANTI-CHRIST, or against the ANOINTING OR CHRISTO’S WHICH COMES “INTO” THE “FLESH”.
The Antichrist spirit denies Jesus came in the flesh. When he was born in that manger, was he in the flesh? The angel also declared the truth when he said:
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger
The Antichrist spirit also denies that Jesus is the Christ. Some here say he was not the Christ when born in that manger. That is an opposite message that the angel of God preached. Are such people also Antichrist?
Your words imply that those are saved are not saved by Jesus’ choice to die on the cross.
Those words are scripture kerwin. I cannot take credit for them.
t8,
Denial is a powerful enemy but your interpretation of the words you quoted because Scripture.
Luke 2:11Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Jesus was not the Savior yet but he was also chosen by God to be one. It is just a way of speech.
kerwin..is right T8, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE HE WAS THE SAVIOR BEFOR HE BECAME IT, NOR WAS HE A CHRISTO’S UNTILL HE BECAME ANOINTED no scripture shows and anointing of the spirit until he recieved it at the Jordan river. Yes that was his destiny even befor he came into existence it was his destiny, even from the foundations ofthe earth was that his destiby , but none of that happened not even his existence, until it actually happened. all the prophesies had tobe fulfilled before they actually took place. surely you know that right?
THE one who doesnt believe the GROWN “man” JESUS, did not have to recieve the anointing spirit on him is the one who does not believe in a CHRISTO’S process and therefore is a ANTICHRIST. YOUR BELIEF OF JESUS COMMING INTO EXISTENCE WITH THE ANOINTING SPIRIT ALREADY ON HIM IS DENYING THE REQUIRED PROCESS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A CHRISTO’S, AND THEREFORE IS A PERSON WHO IS ANTICHRISTO’S or against the ANOINTING PROCESS.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
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