The Ordinary Jesus Brigade

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Kerwin

that is only your opinion ;it does not do any good either to know it or not to know it for it does not make real sense ;

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Do you read Scripture? If so then why make a statement that reveals such a lack of knowledge.

Matthew 6:25-34New English Translation (NET Bible)

25 “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Isn’t there more to life than food and more to the body than clothing? 26 Look at the birds in the sky: They do not sow, or reap, or gather into barns, yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Aren’t you more valuable than they are? 27 And which of you by worrying can add even one hour to his life? 28 Why do you worry about clothing? Think about how the flowers of the field grow; they do not work or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his glory was clothed like one of these! 30 And if this is how God clothes the wild grass, which is here today and tomorrow is tossed into the fire to heat the oven, won’t he clothe you even more, you people of little faith? 31 So then, don’t worry saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’ 32 For the unconverted pursue these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But above all pursue his kingdom and righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 So then, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.

and

Jeremiah 29:11New International Version (NIV)

11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

[kerwin]

Terraricca,

Here is another one.

Romans 8:28-29New English Translation (NET Bible)

28 And we know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose, 29 because those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.

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Kerwin

Ro 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
Ro 8:29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Ro 8:30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
Ro 8:31 What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us?
Ro 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?
Ro 8:33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies.
Ro 8:34 Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.
Ro 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?
Ro 8:36 As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”
Ro 8:37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
Ro 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,
Ro 8:39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

do you think this is addressed to you Kerwin ?

and what about this ;?

Mt 6:19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
Mt 6:20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
Mt 6:21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Mt 6:22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light.
Mt 6:23 But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
Mt 6:24 “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.

Mt 6:32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.
Mt 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
Mt 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

you say;Part of faith is to believe that all things that happen, whether good or bad, happen for the good of those that Love God. In part that piece of faith is based on God’s foreknowledge.

I don’t see that in those scriptures you showed me ;

[kerwin]

Terrarica,

Romans 8 is true of “those who love God”. It does not apply to those that do not.

[kerwin]

Terrarica.

You are correct, Matthew 6 is the wrong passage except for the words ” these things will be given to you as well” and they are better understood if the hearer also knows some other words of Jesus.

The one I was thinking of is:

Matthew 10:29New English Translation (NET Bible)

29 Aren’t two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.

They are also the words I spoke of earlier in this post.

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Kerwin

those who love God” those are a group of people ;and yes God as that foreknowledge that all those that will come in that group will be saved ,

but it is for every man choice to be in that group ,got it ?

[Ed J]

Ed,

I think you have a libertarian idea of free will

Hi Kerwin,

Can you please explain what that is suppose to mean?

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God bless
Ed J

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Kerwin

Jesus spoke those word to show the value and knowledge of God or awareness of God ;trying to use those word in a different screen would make you go off course

[Ed J]

Hi Ed’

Jesus had no role in creation.

But Jesus Christ did -by the principle of

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever”

Hi Nick,

I think you may be agreeing with me, but
sometimes your responses sound like riddles.

Are you agreeing with me? y/n

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God bless
Ed J

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ED /N

you both have it wrong

it says “ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM ;AND NOTHING WAS CREATED WITHOUT HIM ”

so did God make his anointed come forth before sin was introduced in the world ?

was Jesus there way before Adam was created ?

you seem to invent your own dreams ,and opinions ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

You speak of the Word?

The Word was made flesh in Jesus.

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hi N

no, John was speaking about Jesus who his also the WORD of God that is Jesus name in heaven ,no spoken words become flesh ,this is not found in scriptures only in your opinions and some others ,but not according to the truth of God in scriptures ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

God’s power shows up best in weak vessels

Such was Jesus of Nazareth.

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hi N

yeah here you missing the point again ,and cannot answer the scriptures ,you are a producer of red herrings

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Do you not recognise the verse?

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Hi N

you should have known mine ,but you rather change conversation

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

Sometime you will realise it is all about the work of the Spirit.

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Hi N

when i talk to you it is more about how nick see it and how his opinions are taking over the scriptures teachings ,

[NickHassan]

Hi T,

yes you have to seek the Spirit.

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