The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[Miia]

There is black and there is white and there is grey.

[kerwin]

Miia,

I do not know if God is composed of spirit since the statement God is Spirit is just another way of saying God is love according to the context of John 4:24. A paraphrase of Jesus words would be “God is a Love: and they that worship him must worship him in love and in truth.” Considering that I do not know of any other evidence that he is composed of Spirit.

I do know Paul teaches “in him we live, and move, and have our being”, (Acts 17:28). That would go with the idea his existence or presence being everywhere.

I think the phrase “center of existence” may also be correct. I used power because of the use of the word throne.

The rest sounds good as well.

[kerwin]

Ed,

You understand what miia said so why act foolish.

Her answer implied that the Holy is not God but is part of God.

If that is not clear them seek to communicate to her why you find those words unclear.

I admit that if I thought she was a Trinitarian or a variation thereof then her answer would be unclear.

[kerwin]

Ed,

Remember that Love is patient and Love is kind. Seek to Love as God loves you. I also have to strive to increase my patience and kindness through faith in Jesus Christ.

[Ed J]

There is black and there is white and there is grey.

Hi Miia,

Yes!

My question is black or white, and your answer is very gray!

[Ed J]

Ed,

You understand what miia said so why act foolish.

Her answer implied that the Holy is not God but is part of God.

If that is not clear them seek to communicate to her why you find those words unclear.

I admit that if I thought she was a Trinitarian or a variation thereof then her answer would be unclear.

Hi Kerwin,

HER ANSWER *IS* UNCLEAR!

All children are composed partly what there father was.
And you know as well as I that some people consider Jesus is God.
So asking if “the spirit of Christ” is God merely seeks to clarify her belief.

Kerwin – “Her answer implied that the Holy is not God but is part of God.”
If her answer is “No”, then it is she that should give it; you are not her ventriloquist, or are you?

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God bless
Ed J

[kerwin]

EdJ,

All children are composed partly what there father was.

Yes, some may believe that way but I doubt miia is one.

Since neither of us is sure the righteous way to handle it is to seek understanding but your yes or no question will not do it since she believes she is answering it.

Point out why the answer is not clear and ask her if she would clarify it. That is the best we can do with natural languages.

[Ed J]

Hi Kerwin,

the answer is either “Yes”,
“I don’t think so”, because… …?,
or “I don’t know” – answers are as simple as that.

“I don’t want to answer” so I will instead
give you my greater opinion – IS NOT AN ANSWER – it is instead an unasked for speech.

Is “the spirit of Christ” God?
*IS* a valid question
and one that deserves an answer

PERIOD!

[Ed J]

Note: “I don’t think so” = “No”

[AndrewAD]

The Spirit of Christ is God since Christ is a risen Spirit.Does the Spirit of Christ not speak Gods words? If the Spirit of Christ speaks to me then it IS GOD speaking to me.Or is the Spirit of Christ just a normal human? if so then it must be sinful like normal humans are.

[kerwin]

Ed,

There are few if any yes or no questions written in Scripture. Nor are there many. if any, yes or no answers. Why do you want something different?

[kerwin]

AndrewAD,

The Spirit and it is not a being, though it may have some attributes of a person. It is related to God in the same way a human’s spirit is related to him or her. There is a passage that uses that similarity to teach a lesson.

[Miia]

Hi Kerwin,

the answer is either “Yes”,
“I don’t think so”, because… …?,
or “I don’t know” – answers are as simple as that.

“I don’t want to answer” so I will instead
give you my greater opinion – IS NOT AN ANSWER – it is instead an unasked for speech.

Is “the spirit of Christ” God?
*IS* a valid question
and one that deserves an answer

PERIOD!

You talk a load of rubbish, Ed.

The Spirit of Christ (the Holy Spirit) is a part of God. That answers your question. There is no yes or no answer for me.

[Miia]

Thanks Kerwin.

[Ed J]

The Spirit of Christ is God since Christ is a risen Spirit.Does the Spirit of Christ not speak Gods words? If the Spirit of Christ speaks to me then it IS GOD speaking to me.Or is the Spirit of Christ just a normal human? if so then it must be sinful like normal humans are.

Hi AndrewAD,

God is the HolySpirit. “The spirit of Christ” is Jesus’ spirit, God’s Son…

Whose goings have been from everlasting shall come forth out of Bethlehem (ref. Micah 5:2)

WE( will come to him and make OUR abode with them (ref John 14:23)

WE:
1. Spirit of God
2. Spirit of Christ

Conclusion:
“The spirit of Christ” is “the Son of God”, not a normal human. (ref. Psalms 49:1-7)

Proof:
give ear, all ye inhabitants of the world:
None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him.

[Ed J]

Ed,

There are few if any yes or no questions written in Scripture. Nor are there many. if any, yes or no answers. Why do you want something different?

Kerwin,

Why do you want others to not question your spin?

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[Ed J]

Hi Kerwin,

the answer is either “Yes”,
“I don’t think so”, because… …?,
or “I don’t know” – answers are as simple as that.

“I don’t want to answer” so I will instead
give you my greater opinion – IS NOT AN ANSWER – it is instead an unasked for speech.

Is “the spirit of Christ” God?
*IS* a valid question
and one that deserves an answer

PERIOD!

You talk a load of rubbish, Ed.

The Spirit of Christ (the Holy Spirit) is a part of God. That answers your question. There is no yes or no answer for me.

Not rubbish,

All sons are part of their father, do you not agree?

“Yes” or “No”?

[kerwin]

Ed,

So you believe you are more intelligent and wiser that God that wrote Scripture?

Once again Scripture does not ask not answer a lot of yes and no questions. If they were better for sharing the truth then Scripture would use them more often. In defending your action you are accusing God of wrongdoing.

So please stop and think or Satan will of what your words and actions imply or Satan will use you to do what you do not want to do. James warns us about Satan’s exploitation of our non-watched tongue with these words.

James 3:7-10Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8 but the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

The closest I know to a yes and no question is this Mark 11 even though it is not literally a yes/no question.

Mark 11:27-33Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

27 And they come again to Jerusalem: and as he was walking in the temple, there come to him the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders, 28 and say unto him, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority to do these things? 29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. 30 The baptism of John, was it from heaven, or of men? answer me. 31 And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say, Why then did ye not believe him? 32 But if we shall say, Of men; they feared the people: for all men counted John, that he was a prophet indeed. 33 And they answered and said unto Jesus, We cannot tell. And Jesus answering saith unto them, Neither do I tell you by what authority I do these things.

Seek to see if you can find and yes and no questions and consider why or why not God chose to use them.

If you find any then please get back to me and let me know. Thank you!

[kerwin]

Miia,

Your are welcome miia, but I must confess I did it more for Ed than you. I hope he learns that it is not necessary to brow beat others into agreement but rather to address disagreement in a way that treats them how he should want be treated. I believe others on this site could learn from it as well. We will if our hope is to grow into unity with the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

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[kerwin]

Ed,

Your last post to miia is a vast improvement.

I assume you are speaking of either flesh is fathered by flesh and spirit is fathered by God, who himself walks by the Spirit.

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