The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Don't know what point you are trying to make here?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
All is grace

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

OK

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Jesus could not send his own Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, the Word, till he himself had returned to God

[journey42]

Nick

You are not telling us anything we do not know?

[NickHassan]

Hi j42,
Good

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 05 2012,20:49)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2012,01:17) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2012,08:14) joHN 16:7. Never the less i tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: For if I go not away, the COMFORTER WILL NOT COME unto you; but if I depart, I WILL SEND HIM TO YOU.   (greater is he that send than he that is send.) Are you concentrating?. V13. Howbeit when HE,THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH is come,he will guide you into ALL truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; BUT WHATEVER HE  SHALL HEAR, THAT SHALL HE SPEAK: And he will show you things to come. Holy spirit =spirit of truth=comforter: will not speak of himself. What he hears that shall he speak; HEAR FROM WHO? V14. HE SHALL GLORIFY ME: (JESUS). FOR HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE,(JESUS), and shall show it to you. The holyspirit will glorify jesus.(he is not Jesus; Jesus is greater than him, because greater is he that send than he that is send. V15. All things that the father hath are mine:Therefore said I,THAT HE SHALL TAKE OF MINE,and shall show it unto you. JOHN 15:26. But when the comforter is come,WHOM I WILL SEND TO you,from the father, even the SPIRIT OF TRUTH, WHICH PROCEEDETH FROM THE FATHER.HE SHALL TESTIFY OF ME. Jesus will send the holy spirit( he who send is greater.). Holy spirit proceedeth from the father. The word proceedeth from the father; Jesus the word also proceedeth from the father.  ALL FROM THE FATHER; and Jesus will send him to whom he will. wakeup. wakeup i will now make a change to your comment;; Once you know that the Holy spirit is the WILL of our heavenly God that is to be the unifying foundation of the new creation things become clearer. Then the unusual ways of expressing the nature and abilities of the one WILL in Jn14-17 can be learned from. wen Christ came he had and received the action(power) part of the will of God (holy spirit)he then went on to do the WILL of his father ,that is what he said and did.and told over and over again. Pierre Yes Pierre: Jesus is the word of God and in the word is truth(the spirit of truth) The spirit of truth will always glorify the word of God. The word comes from God,and in his word is truth. The word of the prince of this world is lies,cause he is the father of lies.This world is based on the word of satan(lies) God bless you. wakeup.

WU

Christ is the son of God and also called THE WORD OF GOD because God created all things THROUGH HIM so understand that God uses his only created son (the word of God) to create all things ;for this reason GOD SON HIS THE SPOKESPERSON BETWEEN ALL OF CREATION ;

and also the only possible person that could intervene to save human kind for he was the mediator of all creation ,

and so Christ interceded when ask who will go to save men ;HE SAID HE WILL GO DOWN AND POUR OUT HIS BLOOD FOR ANY RIGHTEOUS MAN ON EARTH

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
None are righteous.
He said he came to save sinners

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2014,02:30)

Hi T, None are righteous. He said he came to save sinners

Nick

yes, so that sinners do not keep on sinning ,and be saved

[GeneBalthrop]

T………you are right we should not sin, but to say we still have no sins is not right either, because scripture says we are being saved by GRACE, now why would i still need GRACE, if i Had no sin abiding in me. Please understand i am not saying it is OK to keep sinning may God help us to never sin , but according to Paul he still had sin in him or why would he have said the good i would do i do not , but the evil i would not do that i do, O WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM, who can deliver me from this Body of DEATH , he thanked God through Jesus Christ he would be delivered. So it appears Paul (STILL NEEDED) the Grace of God brought to us through Jesus. I think we all fall into that same category as the apostle Paul. IMO

peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

[Wakeup]

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing,
***and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags***;

and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
So if you would be saved know you are a sinner.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2014,15:40)

Hi, So if you would be saved know you are a sinner.

Nick.

There is no need for a healthy person to see a docter.
But we are all unhealthy, we need mercy.
To receive mercy we need to walk the sraight and narrow.
The broad way leads to babylon the great,and will be destroyed.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2014,02:30)

Hi T, None are righteous. He said he came to save sinners

N

true none is righteous ;this mean that none of us can claim life for what he does or had done good ,

we all have sinned we all are in need of god 's grace ;but this does not mean that we have to keep sinning ,now that we know the truth of God's word and will.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Whosoever wants to save his own life will lose it.
You cannot gain mercy by your works.

The robe of righteousness is our salvation

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2014,06:11)

Hi WU, Whosoever wants to save his own life will lose it. You cannot gain mercy by your works. The robe of righteousness is our salvation

Nick.

You have misplaced that scripture.
Wrongly applied.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Really,
Can you save yourself?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 26 2014,14:34)

Hi WU, Really, Can you save yourself?

Nick.

You have misplaced that scripture.
Can you explain?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
No it is truth.
Study it

[NickHassan]

Hi,
In the new creation everyone will be led by the Spirit

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