The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

Since you say…    'their are two spirits at work ,one is of God and the other one his of the world so run by Satan ,

Which one is the “HolySpirt” then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,23:24)

Hi Pierre, Since you say…    'their are two spirits at work ,one is of God and the other one his of the world so run by Satan , Which one is the “HolySpirt” then? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ

None,

Those are one:the spirit of the world (Satan)

The second one is :Gods will that is given out so people can make up what they want to follow

The holy spirit is OF GOD

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre,

So you really didn't mean:   'their are two spirits at work ,one is of God and the other one his of the world so run by Satan ,'  …then, did you?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[david]

I'm pretty sure that is exactly what he meant.  

The word “spirit” is used in many many many ways.  

See 7.a

n.
1.
a. The vital principle or animating force within living beings.
b. Incorporeal consciousness.
2. The soul, considered as departing from the body of a person at death.
3. Spirit The Holy Spirit.
4. A supernatural being, as:
a. An angel or a demon.
b. A being inhabiting or embodying a particular place, object, or natural phenomenon.
c. A fairy or sprite.
5.
a. The part of a human associated with the mind, will, and feelings: Though unable to join us today, they are with us in spirit.
b. The essential nature of a person or group.
6. A person as characterized by a stated quality: He is a proud spirit.
7.
a. An inclination or tendency of a specified kind: Her actions show a generous spirit.
b. A causative, activating, or essential principle: The couple's engagement was announced in a joyous spirit.
8. spirits A mood or an emotional state: The guests were in high spirits. His sour spirits put a damper on the gathering.
9. A particular mood or an emotional state characterized by vigor and animation: sang with spirit.
10. Strong loyalty or dedication: team spirit.
11. The predominant mood of an occasion or a period: “The spirit of 1776 is not dead” (Thomas Jefferson).
12. The actual though unstated sense or significance of something: the spirit of the law.
13. An alcohol solution of an essential or volatile substance. Often used in the plural with a singular verb.
14. spirits An alcoholic beverage, especially distilled liquor.

Not that I agree with all these, but the bible does speak of the spirit of the world.  It's talking about 7.a

[david]

Ed, you really like to do this thing where you present YOUR two options, when there are other options.

The fact is, “spirit” is used in a number of ways.

When he says ere is the spirit of the world and the spirit of god, he is talking about two opposing attitudes or tendencies. One of god and one of Satan.

He's not talking about there being precisely two spirits that exist.

[Ed J]

Hi David,

Those were Pierre's words, why are you acting as if they were mine?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[david]

Ed, I know they are his words. I don't think you understand what he was saying. And because of this, you are almost misrepresenting what he is saying.

[david]

Ed, in the Christmas Easter thread, Annie just said: “NOT 'living in the Spirit of Love'. 'Living in the Spirit of Love would be obeying Him”

This is the sense of the word spirit when Pierre says the spirit of Satan. He's not talking about a spirit being, and nor is the spirit of love a spirit being. People speak like this often.

Ed, I am wondering what your family/home/living situation is? Do you have family?

[Ed J]

Quote (david @ Mar. 13 2012,18:11)

Ed, in the Christmas Easter thread, Annie just said:  “NOT 'living in the Spirit of Love'. 'Living in the Spirit of Love would be obeying Him” This is the sense of the word spirit when Pierre says the spirit of Satan.  He's not talking about a spirit being, and nor is the spirit of love a spirit being.  People speak like this often. Ed, I am wondering what your family/home/living situation is?  Do you have family?

Hi David,

That is something I do not wish
to discuss on a public forum.
I hope you can understand.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 12 2012,15:04)

Now Mat 1:20 says that Jesus Father is the Holy Ghost. Jesus only has one Father, not two, so the the Father and the Holy Ghost are one and the same God. God Bless Marlin

Hi Marlin,

Excellent!   …why are so many confused on this?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 13 2012,19:02)

Quote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 12 2012,15:04) Now Mat 1:20 says that Jesus Father is the Holy Ghost. Jesus only has one Father, not two, so the the Father and the Holy Ghost are one and the same God. God Bless Marlin Hi Marlin, Excellent!   …why are so many confused on this? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDj.

Go to bible prophesy.
man of perdition,page7.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
I think this is what T means.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 14 2012,11:47)

Hi, I think this is what T means. Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

N

[carmel]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2012,04:25)

Quote (carmel @ Mar. 12 2012,01:53) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2012,08:14) Charles Quote God  to be manifested in our entire creation,to become man GLORIFY and ACHIEVE HIS KINGDOM FOR ETERNITY, He didn't use something pure identical like Him. first God does not need anything ,this is something to understand, now wen God plans to create he does it with a end and final result ,(two phases)the first phase being the shadow of the second. this was the mystery that came to be knowledge at the coming of Gods son (first of his creation)even Satan with is wisdom was cut in that shadow and became a reality for the selection and  destruction, and so is used for that purpose by God, but how does God  made this plan to work ??so that it can  not be altered by Satan ,this was the development of the glory of God and God uses his written word to bring it to be the channel in witch he would make his(glory of it ) will known to us and to his own son wen the time will come, Quote God to show love,mercy,and meeknes,He created it out of His own enemy,by commencing it from the bottom of the abyss, became also in the same body of His enemy, since He is Love He accepted to be killed by His enemy,He glorified the body of His enemy,He is patiently waiting for His enemy to take the same glorified body,and on the last day Almighty God will be manifested in HIS ENEMY'S GLORIFIED BODY FOR ETERNITY,THROUGH HIS GENUINE SPIRIT OF HIS SON SACRIFIED ENTIRELY IN SPIRITS,SOULS, AND BODIES. God has only two enemy and that is  1)ignorance,2) those who refuse understanding willfully (rebels to his will and glory) God in his word(written or verbal) as establish a way for selection ,they are called Righteous ,faithful people,true believers, all have come from ignorance to the knowledge of God and have given him glory as it should be, those  men who are selected are selected by there own choice to recognize that God exist and others do not or are mislaid by the god of this shadow world, the shadow world will end wen all will be in and of God glory, then all ignorance will be gone,and the willing rebels will be destroyed( either with knowledge or removed from circulation permanently ) , Gods glory will come if we like it or not, it is not like God need to justified but it is us who have to justified to deserve life. Quote In what should God’s omnipotence be extolled, if He could not contain HIMSELF WITHIN HIMSELF WHATEVER HE IS, so that He is only felt or seen as is most suitable for the time, place and persons? For since the creation of Heaven and earth He has worked for the redemption of all, more by the wisdom of His BENIGNITY than by the power of His  Majesty. And this benignity of wisdom shines most in His tolerance LOVE YOUR ENEMY,DO GOOD TO WHOEVER HURTS YOU. so again God does not need his creation but it is his creation that needs him, some will understand this and some will not ,the ones that understand that are the selected ones ,the ones who do not are the ones that will have to face a hard reality wen the time comes, but to prevent the fall of those who do understand the son of God gives this advise ;LOVE YOUR ENEMY,DO GOOD TO WHOEVER HURTS YOU why is that ?? because we still live in the shadow world . Quote first God does not need anything ,this is something to understand, Terraricca, Read: 2And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. YOUR KINGDOM COME. YOUR WILL BE DONE, as in heaven, so in earth. So God wants a kingdom.As proof that he is a loving God. His love is not just to those around Him,but more AND MORE to those who opposed Him . LOVE YOUR ENEMY 1 : Corinthians 12:23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. 24For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more ABUNDANT HONOUR to that part which LACKED So He became like them but sinless,He destroyed their substance Satan's flesh on the cross,glorified this substance through His body and Almighty became ONE with with it. All through His Son.All in His Son,and All for His Son. Quote but how does God  made this plan to work ??so that it can  not be altered by Satan YOUR WILL BE DONE, as in heaven, so in earth. So God wants that His will be done, And it still  not fulfilled.It still under Satan's control.Although through Jesus He is in full command. Reflect: Humans became lovers to themselves and rejected God. Psalm 62:4But they have thought to cast away my price; I ran in thirst: they blessed with their mouth, but cursed with their heart Quote REMEMBER GOD DOES NOT NEED HIS CREATION IT IS HIS CREATION THAT NEEDS HIM Without creation there is no God. Without creation there is no Love Creation itself is the MANIFESTATION OF GOD TO PROVE HIS EXISTANCE IN HIS SON'S SPIRIT. COLOSSIANS 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all( CREATION) fulness dwell; 20And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all (CREATION)things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. So I reapeat,AND GET IT IN YOUR MIND: CREATION IS THE EMBODIMENT OF HIS SON'S SPIRIT. ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM,  ALL FOR HIM. Colossians 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the KINGDOM OF THE SON HE LOVES So through creation,the manifestation of His Son's spirit,GOD would establish His Kingdom ,THE KINGDOM OF THE SON HE LOVES THE KINGDOM OF THE SON WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH CREATION, THE SUBSTANCE WHICH ORIGINALLY WAS LUCIFERS AND HIS ANGELS SPIRITS. TRANSFORMED IN GLORIFIED SPRITIS,SOULS,AND BODIES THROUGH JESUS DEATH SINCE H E HIMSELF BECAME ONE OF THEM AND RECONCILED ALL TO THE FATHER. LOVE YOUR ENEMY,AND DO GOOD TO WHOEVER THAT HATES YOU. PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS CHARLES charles you repeat your errors and so are blind to understanding so this becomes a useless and non productive conversation we should stop here

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we should stop here

It seems you are bailing!!

Teraricca,

Explain to me:

Could God receive love if He is alone in His Glory?

Could God gives love if He is alone in His Glory?

How on earth God could experience the love from somebody else,and loves somebody else if this somebody else doesn't exist??

How on earth God could be loved and loves unless He Himself out of Himself supply it through the  only one He loves, His Son's Spirit which was and is, eternally one with Him as proof that He  loves  the creation achieved through Him ??

How on earth could God since  He is NON MORTAL, loves His creation unless experiences THE SLIGHTEST condition which is only felt by MORTALS,

Isn’t it the reason that He sent the only one He loves to be mortal like creation , and through His death as a sacrifice  acquire life eternal for Him, as man, and also for all creation??

Isn’t through His Son, since He became mortal ,that God experiences the least condition and also understands them, loves them equally like His Son, and becomes a Father to those who loves Him through His Son ??

Isn’t it therefore that God really needs us to love Him, and also He loves us, as mortals notwithstanding the fact that we once rebelled and became His enemy.

Love your enemy and do good to whoever that hates you!!

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

[NickHassan]

Hi C,
Yes and the Word was one with the Father's Spirit till the anointing of Jesus and still is one with Him.

[terraricca]

Charles

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Teraricca, Explain to me: Could God receive love if He is alone in His Glory? Could God gives love if He is alone in His Glory? How on earth God could experience the love from somebody else,and loves somebody else if this somebody else doesn't exist??

you do not understand Gods love and the love we should return to him in the same way,

you also do not understand what is Gods glory or Christ glory ,

and so do not understand scriptures.

[carmel]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 14 2012,08:02)

Charles Quote Teraricca, Explain to me: Could God receive love if He is alone in His Glory? Could God gives love if He is alone in His Glory? How on earth God could experience the love from somebody else,and loves somebody else if this somebody else doesn't exist?? you do not understand Gods love and the love we should return to him in the same way, you also do not understand what is Gods glory or Christ glory , and so do not understand scriptures.

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you do not understand Gods love and the love we should return to him in the same way, you also do not understand what is Gods glory or Christ glory , and so do not understand scriptures.

I am waiting for you to teach me since you understand all.

What is God's Glory??

What is Christ Glory??

There isn't God's Glory without Christ Glory.

There isn't Christ Glory without God's Glory

There's one Glory in both.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes the Word had glory with God.

[terraricca]

Charles

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I am waiting for you to teach me since you understand all. What is God's Glory?? What is Christ Glory?? There isn't God's Glory without Christ Glory. There isn't Christ Glory without God's Glory There's one Glory in both.

what does it mean glory ?? it is giving to someone the position of honor he deserves ,

so we should ask DO WE GIVE HONOR TO OUR GOD ? IS HE THE MOST IMPORTANT BEING IN MY LIVE ? IF YES THEN YOU HAVE RENDER GLORY TO GOD,

now if you do not place his words in your own heart ,you have lied ,if you do not believe in his words ,then you have lied ,ect;

now given glory to Christ the son of God is also to place him and honor him by just has the father for the things he did for us,and so listen and apply his words ,because the son as glory from the father (truth)

what is glory ,well it is the truth of Gods word what has been given to us by his prophets (the glory is always related to the truth of God)God can not lie,

Jesus Christ accomplished what was written by Gods prophet under the holy spirit this application of the truth of God is in it self glory because it his the truth,and honor for the works is inevitable only the son of God could have done it .(and so God places the son high in heaven at the right side of him)

Jn 3:6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

read this verse back but replace the word spirit by TRUTH

if a person is true all away in his heart and loves God by doing what pleases God then God will respond in a similar way . true love attracts true love ,what you sow is what you reap

this is in a nut shell

[NickHassan]

Hmmmm,
Sounds philosphical.

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