The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

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  • #205111
    shimmer
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 20 2010,21:32)
    Hi SH,
    Do these men have any relevance in God's eyes?


    I think so.

    The carnal mind cannot maintain the things of God;  least of all today, the mind has become like a radio or television which has poor reception; never quite able to catch the station; there is too much interference in todays impure minds,  

    It was lesser back then.

    #205112
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 20 2010,21:58)
    Ed J.

    You should read and understand those scriptures as none of them state that the Holy Spirit either coupulated with Mary or injected sperm into her in any other way.

    What they do state is that Jesus was created in Mary's womb.

    The Spirit of God is God's power in action in this case as it was when the world was created.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin


    Hi Kerwin,

    Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from The Father(HolySpirit).
    Jesus=74 had “God Blood”=74(Acts 20:28), NOT Adam blood(Luke 3:23-38)!
                                                                                                                                      (Luke 1:35)
    Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit
    hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own [God blood=74].

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #205133
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,16:31)
    I agree with John 4.24 referring to the Father, and acknowledge that it is only through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that we can worship Him adequately.


    Hi Oxy,

    Then if God the Father is Spirit and the HolySpirit is Spirit,
    Are you then not making 'TWO Spirits' of GOD in your mind?
    What about the “Spirit of Christ”, does that then make 'THREE'?

    Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
    one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
    is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #205254
    barley
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2010,20:51)
    Deut.6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: YHVH GOD is One!
    FATHER:The Wordknown in us believers ofHolySpirit“!

    Luke 8:5…11 A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side;
    and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it. And some fell upon a rock;
    and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.
    And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprang up with it, and choked it.
    And other fell on good ground, and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold.
    And when he had said these things, he cried, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
    And his disciples asked him, saying, What might this parable be? And he said,
    Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others
    in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.
    Now the parable is this: The seedisthe word of God.

    Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
    the word(TheSeed “IS” HolySpirit) of the oath, which was since the law,
    maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore.

    Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
    John 6:15 When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force,
    to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone.

    Psalm 29:10 The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD(HolySpirit) sitteth King for ever. (Rev.19:11-19)
    Psalm 10:16 The LORD(HolySpirit) is King for ever and ever: the heathen are perished out of his land.

    MaL.2:10 Have we not all one father(HolySpirit)? hath not one God(HolySpirit) created us?
    why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

    1Cor.8:6 But to us there is but one” “God,the Father(HolySpirit), of whom are all things,
    and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him(HolySpirit).
    Eph.4:6 One God(HolySpirit) and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    Above all: (AKJV Psalm 83:18)
    Through all: (AKJV Gal.4:5-7)
    In us all: (AKJV Eph.4:6)

    Eph.2:12-15 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel,
    and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
    But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
    For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us ;
    Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances;
    for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

    Luke 20:9-18 Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard,
    and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time. And at the season he sent a servant
    to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat him,
    and sent him away empty. And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated him shamefully,
    and sent him away empty. And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast him out.
    Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him
    when they see him. But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir:
    come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours. So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him.
    What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them? He shall come and destroy these husbandmen,
    and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid. And he beheld them, and said,
    What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?
    Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

    Rev.16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth,
    and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
    And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    1Cor.1:17-23 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
    not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness;
    but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. For it is written,
    I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
    Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
    For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
    For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

    The ONLY rule I want us all to follow is: ONLY one question per Post.
    If we follow that rule will all learn a lot from each other; OK everybody?
    When more than one question is asked: Invariably the question we want answered most, doesn't get addressed!

    God bless you ALL…
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34)
    “Witnessing” (AKJV Joshua 22:34) to the world in behalf of…
    117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! (Psalm 45:17)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    God is holy   I Peter 1:15,16; Leviticus 19:2 and God is spirit, John 4:24.  Is it any surprise that God should refer to himself as the Holy Spirit?  

    Is God the Father of Jesus Christ?  Yes.  That is what Matthew 1:18,20 say.  God is the Holy Spirit.  

    Mark 3:29 and Matthew 12:32  refer to God alone, not Jesus Christ, not some one third part of some three in one aberration.

    Luke 12:12  God, the Holy Spirit, will teach those believers what to say in tough situations.

    God makes himself known by many names throughout His word, should we surprised if He adds a new name in the New Testament?

    #205256
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi B,
    The Holy Spirit is as the finger of God[lk11/,t12]

    #205258
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi B,
    A finger can do many wonderful things but it does not see or hear, speak or love.
    A finger or an arm can respond to sight or hearing or speech and can show the love of that being.

    #205259
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED.
    The blood type comes from an admixture of both parents.

    #205267
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ July 21 2010,02:35)

    Quote (Oxy @ July 18 2010,16:31)
    I agree with John 4.24 referring to the Father, and acknowledge that it is only through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that we can worship Him adequately.


    Hi Oxy,

    Then if God the Father is Spirit and the HolySpirit is Spirit,
    Are you then not making 'TWO Spirits' of GOD in your mind?
    What about the “Spirit of Christ”, does that then make 'THREE'?

    Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
    one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
    is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Let me see… is there a possiblity that the spirit of the Father and the spirit of Christ is the same Holy Spirit?

    #205272
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Oxy,
    The Spirit is one and has many appelations.
    Read Romans 8 for a start

    #205274
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed J.

    Life is in the blood of living creatures and yet the Holy Spirit has no blood. Does that mean it is not a living creature?

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #205275
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    Yes.
    Your finger is not a living creature.

    #205276
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I agree my finger is merely part of a living creature but Ed is acting as if he believes the Holy Spirit is itself a living being when he mentions blood comming from the Holy Spirit and science.

    From what I understand science has not really invested the spiritual realm and may even disregard its existance.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    Edited to correct my verbalage.

    #205311
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 21 2010,18:44)
    Ed J.

    Life is in the blood of living creatures and yet the Holy Spirit has no blood.  Does that mean it is not a living creature?

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin


    Hi Kerwin,

    1John 1:1-3 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we
    have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled,
    of “The Word of life” (John 14:7); (For “The life” was manifested, and we have seen it,
    and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was
    manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may
    have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
    יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #205317
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    And the Spirit is that Life.
    this is my body………. this is my blood.
    Jesus symbolised the unification of all the parts of his body in the Spirit when the bread was broken and it and the wine shared.

    #205390
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed J.

    God led me to read that chapter of First John this morning but what you think it means and what it actually means may be two vastly different things.   I am assuming you are trying to make the point that the Holy Spirit is a living creature.

    Asumming that the Holy Spirit is actually a creature at all, a questionable assumption, it would be a non-living creature if the definition of living creature you are going by is one with flesh and blood.  I believe when God made the point about life being in the blood he was only speaking of creatures with flesh and blood.   Context is important.

    My point is the Holy Spirit has no flesh and blood and therefore cannot have contributed any blood to make Jesus or any part of him.

    As for John 1, I do assure you that if you truly live according to the spirit of holiness as all times and therefore do not sin then you will inherit eternal life for God is just.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #205392
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,
    The Spirit creates.[Ps 104]
    The Spirit can control; your life-then you will not sin.[gal5]

    #205393
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick Hassan,

    I going to agree with both those points you just made.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #205412
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ July 22 2010,15:13)
    Ed J.

    My point is the Holy Spirit has no flesh and blood and therefore cannot have contributed any blood to make Jesus or any part of him.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin


    Hi Kerwin,

    Science suggests that blood in the fetus comes from the father. (1Timothy 6:20)
    Do you believe Jesus (according to Kerwin) had Adam's blood in him? (Act's 20:28)

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #205463
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,
    Science is a weak earthly tool falsely called knowledge
    Besides the blood type comes from both parents.
    Seems this foundation is quite unstable

    #205485
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2010,05:38)
    Hi ED,
    Science is a weak earthly tool falsely called knowledge
    Besides the blood type comes from both parents.
    Seems this foundation is quite unstable


    Hi Nick,

    Is the Science that says the Earth is round weak? (1Timothy 6:20)
    Is the Science that says the Earth revolves around the Sun weak?

    1Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
    avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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