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Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,16:05) Quote (david @ July 16 2010,15:52) Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,21:33) Quote (david @ July 15 2010,18:15) ED, Ed, did you know the Bible writers used personification a lot? Would you like me to give you a hundred examples?
Hi David,With reference to The “HolySpirit” you bet!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, I'm not certain you know what personification is. Why are you agreeing with me?
Hi David,Do you not seek agreement? (Luke 9:50)
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Personification is a literary technique where something impersonal is given personal attributes.Do you see how your agreeing with me also invalidates what you've been saying.
Quote (david @ July 16 2010,15:58) “God's holy spirit” (Eph 4:30) If “God's holy spirit” is “God” then is Eph 4:30 saying “God's God”? I don't think it is. I think it, like the hundred other scriptures that speak of God's spirit as something he possesses, that this scripture too, is referring to the holy spirit “of” God, or “God's holy spirit,” something that is his, something he possesses, and uses.
Hi David,Eph.4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God,
whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Well now at least you are trying to make a point; bravo!
Here is a transcript from another thread that 'may' help you!Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,15:09) Quote (RokkaMan @ June 28 2010,10:02) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2010,09:55) Hi RM,
Yes the Spirit is of God.
God in us is the Spirit of Christ [Eph3.19]
Sorry, scripture disagrees with you.It doesn't say The Spirit is of God.
It says The Spirit IS God.
Hi RokkaMan,The Spirit is of God (John 15:26) and The Spirit is God (John 4:24)!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J
Quote Eph.4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, –ed.
So if the “holy spirit” is “God” then what does the above mean?–“And grieve not the 'God' of 'God'”?
Ed, you quoted my words:
Quote If “God's holy spirit” is “God” then is Eph 4:30 saying “God's God”? I don't think it is. I think it, like the hundred other scriptures that speak of God's spirit as something he possesses, that this scripture too, is referring to the holy spirit “of” God, or “God's holy spirit,” something that is his, something he possesses, and uses. But you made no attempt in the least to answer them, or address them.
Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:05) Quote I showed you where the Scriptures document
the “HolySpirit” as Jesus' Father. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)–ed
This is frankly one of the top 10 most ridiculous arguments I have ever seen on this forum!
Hi David,What's the matter nothing to 'cut and paste'
(pre-fabed) from the watchtower community?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI know. I felt bad about saying it, because it was true, and thought it might hurt your feelings. But it is just so ridiculously ridiculous.
Quote What's the matter nothing to 'cut and paste'
(pre-fabed) from the watchtower community?Ed, over and over, I've found with you (and many others) that when they can't answer questions, or can't even acknowledge the existence of certain scriptures, they start attacking others personally. I do understand why. I do feel your frustration at not being able to defend or even explain what you believe. But your tactics…are juvenile.
Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:06) Quote (Ed J @ July 16 2010,16:05) Quote (david @ July 16 2010,15:52) Quote (Ed J @ July 15 2010,21:33) Quote (david @ July 15 2010,18:15) ED, Ed, did you know the Bible writers used personification a lot? Would you like me to give you a hundred examples?
Hi David,With reference to The “HolySpirit” you bet!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, I'm not certain you know what personification is. Why are you agreeing with me?
Hi David,Do you not seek agreement? (Luke 9:50)
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Personification is a literary technique where something impersonal is given personal attributes.Do you see how your agreeing with me also invalidates what you've been saying.
Hi David,Do you mean like your comments aren't coming from a real person,
but are merely (watchtower) calculated organizational responses?Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ July 16 2010,16:05) Your argument is that God is “holy” and God is a “spirit” therefore, God is “the” holy spirit.
Does anyone else think this is sound reasoning?
Hi David,1John 4:4: Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is
he(HolySpirit) that is in you(Ed J), than he(2Cor.4:4) that is in the world. (Eph. 4:4-6)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, I suggest consulting a dictionary. I still truly believe you have no idea what personification is. If you did, you wouldn't have agreed with me.
Quote Hi David, 1John 4:4: Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is
he(HolySpirit) that is in you(Ed J), than he(2Cor.4:4) that is in the world. (Eph. 4:4-6)Ed. Perhaps you could explain why you quoted this scripture in connection with your quote from me:
Quote Your argument is that God is “holy” and God is a “spirit” therefore, God is “the” holy spirit.
Does anyone else think this is sound reasoning?Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:05) Ps 104:4; Heb 1:14, etc–The angels are “spirits.”
The angels are also called “holy” (Deut 33:2; Jude 14)
Therefore, the angels are holy spirits.
Hi David,The systems of religion and traditions of men docommunicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, since you obviously don't want to discuss this subject (or are unable) then lets go to where you want to go.
Are you starting your own religion?
How much exactly have you made from your donations towards your “research”?
If you have some sort of revealed truth, why are you the only one?Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:15) Quote Eph.4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, –ed.
So if the “holy spirit” is “God” then what does the above mean?–“And grieve not the 'God' of 'God'”?
Hi David,The word 'above' is NOT in that verse?
The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote The word 'above' is NOT in that verse? There are many words not in that verse. If you could explain your point.
Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:17) Ed, you quoted my words: Quote If “God's holy spirit” is “God” then is Eph 4:30 saying “God's God”? I don't think it is. I think it, like the hundred other scriptures that speak of God's spirit as something he possesses, that this scripture too, is referring to the holy spirit “of” God, or “God's holy spirit,” something that is his, something he possesses, and uses. But you made no attempt in the least to answer them, or address them.
Hi David,I don't care what 'you think' or what 'you don't think'!
I only care what “The Scripture teaches” and you're making
'no case' for 'your assertions', but merely conjecture and opinions!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote Hi David, I don't care what 'you think' or what 'you don't think'!
Your conversation proves otherwise. Stop conversing with me. I won't mind. But understand that you are unwilling to admit the existence of many scriptures. When people do this, I consider them blind.
Quote I only care what “The Scripture teaches” and you're making
'no case' for 'your assertions', but merely conjecture and opinions!It is not an OPINION that “God's holy spirit” is ONE HUNDRED TIMES IN SCRIPTURES spoken of in a possesive sense, as something God possesses, and not God himself!
That is scripture. It is scripture you seem blinded from. But nonetheless, it exists.
Quote (david @ July 16 2010,16:23) Quote What's the matter nothing to 'cut and paste'
(pre-fabed) from the watchtower community?Ed, over and over, I've found with you (and many others) that when they can't answer questions, or can't even acknowledge the existence of certain scriptures, they start attacking others personally. I do understand why. I do feel your frustration at not being able to defend or even explain what you believe. But your tactics…are juvenile.
Hi David,I haven't 'attacked you personally' as you put it,
but merely point out that the watchtower community's
assertions fail miserably to line up with “Bible Truth”=117!'You' resort to distractions away from the point and the point being…
“HolySpirit is “GOD: The Father” of Jesus Christ” (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
You ask me to offer more prof, so I show verses that state that YHVH is HOLY and SPIRIT; than you offer a distraction.But, please feel free to make a point that lines up with Scripture!
I posted the Scripture that you produced, did you not see the Post?Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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