The Holy Spirit, a separate person, essence of God, or force?

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  • #200049
    terraricca
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    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,16:44)

    Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2010,18:34)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,16:16)
    You have a tongue.. God has ears.. simple.


    oxy

    my priest wen i was small kid use to say that to ,he figure i must know more than what he did that's why he never give me an explanation how to do it and how to be condition to do it .

    Pierre


    Forgive me Pierre.  For the past 32 years I have known what it is like to speak to and also hear from God.  I apologise for becoming so blase.

    Initially it is not such an easy thing, because you must discern His voice, but the good news is that He does hear our prayers and when we ask Him He will often answer.  His voice is often a small still voice in your head that is mostly distinguishable because your next thought may well be “where did that thought come from?”  You will soon get used to His voice and easily distinguish it from your own thoughts.

    I hope this helps.


    oxy

    someone told me that this is my conscience who talks to me

    Pierre

    #200050
    Oxy
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    Quote (terraricca @ June 26 2010,19:06)

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,16:54)
    An “it” cannoy hear or speak or bear witness.  And if the Holy Spirit was just an “it” why is it an unforgivable sin to blaspheme Him?


    oxy

    because it is the holy truth will of God,in witch men are save bye

    Pierre


    More than just the truth. Read the Scriptures and see that the Holy Spirit is “He” as Jesus described Him.

    How else could it be that the Holy Spirit hears, speaks and bears witness?

    #200051
    Oxy
    Participant

    oxy

    someone told me that this is my conscience who talks to me

    Pierre

    Pierre, you conscience will convict you of wrong doing, but does not speak.

    #200053
    Ed J
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    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God, so why are you refusing to ask him for me what he thinks of me?

    Ed J

    #200054
    Oxy
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,19:21)
    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God, so why are you refusing to ask him for me what he thinks of me?

    Ed J


    Mat 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we want to see a sign from you.
    Mat 12:39 But He answered and said to them, An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. And there shall be no sign given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.

    #200056
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,17:22)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,19:21)
    Hi Oxy,

    You say you talk to God, so why are you refusing to ask him for me what he thinks of me?

    Ed J


    Mat 12:38  Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we want to see a sign from you.
    Mat 12:39  But He answered and said to them, An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign. And there shall be no sign given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.


    Hi Oxy,

    I'm not asking for a sign, I'm asking you to ask God in my behalf.
    Jer.23:37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the
    LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken?
    How can you tell me if you refuse to ask in my behalf?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200057
    Oxy
    Participant

    Why are you doing this Ed? Are you insecure about your relationship with God or just trying to be smart? Or perhaps you want to know if I'm a prophet?

    #200059
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,17:40)
    Why are you doing this Ed?  Are you insecure about your relationship with God or just trying to be smart?  Or perhaps you want to know if I'm a prophet?


    Hi Oxy,

    Neither.

    Now could you ask him in my behalf what he thinks of me?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200060
    Oxy
    Participant

    No

    #200061
    Ed J
    Participant
    #200062
    Oxy
    Participant

    You won't give me a reason for asking, yet you expect me to give you an answer for refusing?

    #200063
    kerwin
    Participant

    Oxy,

    You are mistaken that you cannot blasphmy and neuter object since one of the definitions of blasphmy is “An irreverent or impious act, attitude, or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.” according to the freedictionary.com.

    In Galatians 5:16 of the New International Version we are taught “So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature.”. That does not sound like a person.

    Now if you blasphemy against the nature of the spirit then you are treating the Spirit of God with contempt. One example of this is what the disciples Ananias and Sapphira in Acts 5.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #200064
    Oxy
    Participant

    After all the Scriptures I have shown you that support the identity of the Holy Spirit, yet you hold onto your beliefs. Why don't you ask God for His opinion?

    #200065
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,17:58)
    You won't give me a reason for asking, yet you expect me to give you an answer for refusing?


    Hi Ony,

    I want you to ask him because you say you talk to him.
    If you ask him but he doesn't answer you, that I can accept.
    If you refuse, this is cause for suspicion; can you not understand?
    Now that I have explained it to you, can you now ask him in my behalf ?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200066
    Oxy
    Participant

    Don't you talk to Him? I thought it was a requirement. (called prayer)

    #200067
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,18:13)
    Don't you talk to Him?  I thought it was a requirement.  (called prayer)


    Hi Oxy<

    Wouldn't it be easier to ask him, than to keep dodging?
    If you ask him in my behalf and tell me what he said,
    then I will answer your question for you, OK; deal?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200068
    Oxy
    Participant

    Isn't that your mother calling?

    #200069
    kerwin
    Participant

    Oxy,

    I, like God, have a spirit and my spirit is part of me.  It does not have a seperate identity so why should his?  God's spirit is the spirit of love for himself and all he created.  It also seems to have other aspects that serve their purpose at the right moment.  I tend to focus more the the spirit of love than on the other aspects as that concerns me more at this time.

    I already pointed out why using a pronoun as evidence that the Holy Spirit has a seperate identity does not work.  The same was true with blasphemy.   The best support I know for your argument is when the Spirit is said to have spoken to Peter in relation to the Corneileous baptism event and the dream Peter had.   Your hypothosis does not explain how you can live by it.

    I do see how the Holy Spirit teaches us since it is the spirit of Love and thus teaches us by experience.

    Your fellow student,

    Kerwin

    #200070
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Oxy,

    Isaiah 41:28 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them,
    and there was no counselor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
    Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200221
    Oxy
    Participant

    It's this simple Ed, if I had a peace about asking Him I would, but I do not have that peace. If, on the other hand, God asked me to say something to you, I would. That has not happened so you will never know what God thinks of you…. unless of course He tells you. Better start listening.

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